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This goes out to Manhattan, the island of Staten

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:16 am
by pimpdave
Brooklyn and Queens is livin fat and
the Boogie Down, enough props, enough clout
ill will, rest in peace, yo I'm out.


Halftime


(some old school for y'all, from the cat cooler than Jay-Z)

Re: This goes out to Manhattan, the island of Staten

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:20 am
by Anarkistsdream
pimpdave wrote:Brooklyn and Queens is livin fat and
the Boogie Down, enough props, enough clout
ill will, rest in peace, yo I'm out.


Halftime


(some old school for y'all, from the cat cooler than Jay-Z)



I don't know a cat who is UNCOOLER than Jay-Z...

Re: This goes out to Manhattan, the island of Staten

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:27 am
by pimpdave
Anarkistsdream wrote:I don't know a cat who is UNCOOLER than Jay-Z...


So when they were beefin, you were in the Nas camp? Or are you just saying that Jay-Z is a good rapper to poop on in general, and don't know about that old beef?


(apparently they have since made peace, but I still think Nas has always been the better rapper, and deserved the recognition that Jay-Z stole away, because Jay-Z was able to buy recognition with his drug money, whereas Nas only had his talent to bank on, and wasn't some degenerate pusher)

Re: This goes out to Manhattan, the island of Staten

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:31 pm
by Anarkistsdream
pimpdave wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:I don't know a cat who is UNCOOLER than Jay-Z...


So when they were beefin, you were in the Nas camp? Or are you just saying that Jay-Z is a good rapper to poop on in general, and don't know about that old beef?


(apparently they have since made peace, but I still think Nas has always been the better rapper, and deserved the recognition that Jay-Z stole away, because Jay-Z was able to buy recognition with his drug money, whereas Nas only had his talent to bank on, and wasn't some degenerate pusher)



I think both of those two choices suck ass.

If you are going to listen to rap, it should be Mobb Deep, Wu-Tang Clan (w/ Raekwon, Meth, RZA and ODB), and occasionally some Spice1, Black Sheep, Ice Cube... But, old school stuff... Anything after 1995 is complete shite...

Re: This goes out to Manhattan, the island of Staten

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:08 pm
by pimpdave
Anarkistsdream wrote:

I think both of those two choices suck ass.

If you are going to listen to rap, it should be Mobb Deep, Wu-Tang Clan (w/ Raekwon, Meth, RZA and ODB), and occasionally some Spice1, Black Sheep, Ice Cube... But, old school stuff... Anything after 1995 is complete shite...



Now now, it's not like that's all I listen to. And it is worth mentioning that the song I posted was on an album released in 1994.

Cube was never that great, just had a big personality. NWA was never all that, either. Wu-Tang is the best rap collective, unless you can count The Roots as such, at least, before they had to kick Malik B out to get clean.

And I do have to disagree with you about modern hip-hop. Kanye West, Talib Kweli, and Dizzee Rascal are all recording albums that are just as epic, and I think will be just as lasting, as those you mentioned.

Re: This goes out to Manhattan, the island of Staten

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:12 pm
by Anarkistsdream
pimpdave wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:

I think both of those two choices suck ass.

If you are going to listen to rap, it should be Mobb Deep, Wu-Tang Clan (w/ Raekwon, Meth, RZA and ODB), and occasionally some Spice1, Black Sheep, Ice Cube... But, old school stuff... Anything after 1995 is complete shite...



Now now, it's not like that's all I listen to. And it is worth mentioning that the song I posted was on an album released in 1994.

Cube was never that great, just had a big personality. NWA was never all that, either. Wu-Tang is the best rap collective, unless you can count The Roots as such, at least, before they had to kick Malik B out to get clean.

And I do have to disagree with you about modern hip-hop. Kanye West, Talib Kweli, and Dizzee Rascal are all recording albums that are just as epic, and I think will be just as lasting, as those you mentioned.


I of course know who Kanye West is, but perhaps I'll have to download those other two artists and give them a chance.

I certainly have no problem being open minded about new things.

Re: This goes out to Manhattan, the island of Staten

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:19 pm
by Snorri1234
Anarkistsdream wrote:I of course know who Kanye West is, but perhaps I'll have to download those other two artists and give them a chance.

You should. I don't listen to Kanye either, but Talib Kweli and Dizzee Rascall are very good. (Though actually understanding what Dizzee is saying requires some time.)


Also cool are Slick Rick and old-school Busta Rhymes.

Re: This goes out to Manhattan, the island of Staten

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:19 pm
by pimpdave
Anarkistsdream wrote:
I of course know who Kanye West is, but perhaps I'll have to download those other two artists and give them a chance.

I certainly have no problem being open minded about new things.


If you're serious about checking out Kweli, be sure to get "Reflection Eternal", the album he did with DJ Hi-Tek as the DJ. Also, the group Blackstar, which consisted of Kweli and Mos Def is absolutely required listening.

Stand out song from "Reflection Eternal" that would be good to start with is "Soul Rebels". It features De La Soul on the track, but includes one of the coolest literary references Kweli's made (which he does a fair amount).

Also check out Common's "Like Water for Chocolate", or Slum Village's "Fantastic Vol. 2". Village is another hip hop collective. You may have heard the song "Conant Gardens" off that album, it got radio play back when it was released, in 2000.

Re: This goes out to Manhattan, the island of Staten

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:04 pm
by MeDeFe
I first misread the thread title as "island of Satan".

Re: This goes out to Manhattan, the island of Staten

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:20 pm
by Nickbaldwin
Snorri1234 wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:I of course know who Kanye West is, but perhaps I'll have to download those other two artists and give them a chance.

(Though actually understanding what Dizzee is saying requires some time.)


Pahhh we Brits understand the lad.

Re: This goes out to Manhattan, the island of Staten

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:40 pm
by Snorri1234
Nickbaldwin wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:I of course know who Kanye West is, but perhaps I'll have to download those other two artists and give them a chance.

(Though actually understanding what Dizzee is saying requires some time.)


Pahhh we Brits understand the lad.


But I didn't!

At least the first few times.



Also, I'm looking for his lyrics but all I can find are without his accent.

Re: This goes out to Manhattan, the island of Staten

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:09 pm
by pimpdave
Here's some more old school for you, from 1991, by Ice Cube's cousin.

Del Tha Funky Homosapien: Sleepin' On My Couch

Re: This goes out to Manhattan, the island of Staten

PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:15 am
by pimpdave
Justin Warfield: B-Boys on Acid

For those in the know, the album this came from was produced by Prince Paul. Also, if you like She Wants Revenge, then you've heard Justin sing, cause he's the lead singer.