Conquer Club

Normally I don't mind children in the 10-11 range. Actually I don't mind children of any age so long as they don't bug me.
But spending 5 days on a camping trip with 50 kids in that age range does a serious number on your mind.
I know I'm sinking deeper into madness as it's the second year of my volunteering to help out, and hopefully the last.
Most of the kids were fine, but about 5 were real snot-bags, acting twice their age with the vocabulary to match it. Personally, I blame the internet.

What didn't help matters is that it t'was a Christian camping trip, organised by the local churches. And of course one of their aims is to try and teach the stories of Jesus to the kids and turn them to Chrisitanity.
I hate this. Getting kids to stand up and sing an embarrasing song after supper will not turn them into angels. In fact, it has the opposite effect. And why did my pump-up bed go down after every night!?
Argh! I hate everything!

I like my women like I like my whiskey... 12 years old and mixed up with coke.

Ouch. Where's the suicide Smiley?

I like my women like the sun.......hot.

Minister Masket wrote:Normally I don't mind children in the 10-11 range. Actually I don't mind children of any age so long as they don't bug me.
But spending 5 days on a camping trip with 50 kids in that age range does a serious number on your mind.
I know I'm sinking deeper into madness as it's the second year of my volunteering to help out, and hopefully the last.
Most of the kids were fine, but about 5 were real snot-bags, acting twice their age with the vocabulary to match it. Personally, I blame the internet.

What didn't help matters is that it t'was a Christian camping trip, organised by the local churches. And of course one of their aims is to try and teach the stories of Jesus to the kids and turn them to Chrisitanity.
I hate this. Getting kids to stand up and sing an embarrasing song after supper will not turn them into angels. In fact, it has the opposite effect. And why did my pump-up bed go down after every night!?
Argh! I hate everything!

As the inventor of inflatable beds, I have the authority to tell you, I designed them that way because I, like you, hate people.

I like my women like I like my contraceptives. Stretched over my cock.

jnd94 wrote:I like my women like the sun.......hot.

Are you going to sit there and let him insult people of your generation?!

nagerous wrote:

jnd94 wrote:I like my women like the sun.......hot.

Are you going to sit there and let him insult people of your generation?!

I could care less.....

hecter wrote:I like my women like I like my whiskey... 12 years old and mixed up with coke.

you, the sheriff of the politically corecct police have the balls to make a statement, joking or not,like that?

in my book that makes you a pedifile.

jnd94 wrote:

nagerous wrote:

jnd94 wrote:I like my women like the sun.......hot.

Are you going to sit there and let him insult people of your generation?!

I could care less.....

then please do care less.

black elk speaks wrote:

jnd94 wrote:

nagerous wrote:

jnd94 wrote:I like my women like the sun.......hot.

Are you going to sit there and let him insult people of your generation?!

I could care less.....

then please do care less.

hypocrite

azezzo wrote:

hecter wrote:I like my women like I like my whiskey... 12 years old and mixed up with coke.

you, the sheriff of the politically corecct police have the balls to make a statement, joking or not,like that?

in my book that makes you a pedifile.

I can live with that. What ever a pedifile is, anyway...

Ya, I'm the sheriff of the spelling police too

I like my women like a popped blister. Split open and oozing.

I feel for you.

On the other hand, I am the parent of a seriously ADHD child only somewhat helped by medication. (and the stepparent of another who was quite well helped). SO, my child no doubt would have been one of the problem kids had he been in the group.

Don't underestimate the impact you have. No 10-12 year old is going to admit, in front of their friends (or perhaps even to themselves) that they really benefit from the adult interactions, but it helps. And, the fact that you are not their parent ... helps even more.

But what impact does having to stand up and sing an embarrassing song have?

MeDeFe wrote:But what impact does having to stand up and sing an embarrassing song have?

I really, really depends on the song, the kid and the context of the situation. It could be one of the worst things to do if the child has low self-esteem ... or it could work well, be either a way of "bringing down" a healthy kid who got a bit excited and "above himself" OR a way of showing a kid with low self-esteem that they are "part of the group"/ can "take it", etc. It just depends.

Many kids who act up really and truly do have quite poor self images. My son, even at age 7, for example, already says "why try" repeatedly. He "knows" that his best efforts (even with medication) will often fall short of what is expected, so he gives up and just takes the easy road. (or seeks attention negatively because he doesn't get it positively). That is a real and true reaction. He does not see even joking criticism as a joke, he sees it as real and true criticism.

BUT, here is where things get tricky. Kids need to live in the real world. The real world is not a nice, soft place of comfort. As parents and educators, we have to both build up our kids AND armor them against the real world. We have to teach them in different ways that they can't just melt because someone says something bad about them or makes fun of them or teases them.

The funny song issue? I have seen both sides. A kid with very low self esteem can take it all to heart and internalize it into a very, very big deal. On the other hand, a more healthy and happy kid, particularly one who happened to get a bit "above" himself (in the excitement) can be gently, but firmly brought down or simply have fun with it.

But there I go again ... taking a not so serious thread and making it serious. I think his main point was to vent. If he were a terrible counselor in a terrible program, I don't think he would have done it twice.

hecter wrote:

azezzo wrote:

hecter wrote:I like my women like I like my whiskey... 12 years old and mixed up with coke.

you, the sheriff of the politically corecct police have the balls to make a statement, joking or not,like that?

in my book that makes you a pedifile.

I can live with that. What ever a pedifile is, anyway...

Ya, I'm the sheriff of the spelling police too

pedophile
there i checked my spelling, your right if i'm gonna call you a child molester i should get the spelling right