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che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:03 pm
by bbqpenguin
i was assigned last week in my advertising and pr class to find and describe a way in which companies and entrepreneurs take advantage of college kids' mindsets to make a quick and easy buck. it's interesting because even though we tend to pride ourselves on being intellectual and 'above' the influence of petty desires, we're really still just as vulnerable as anyone else when it comes to being suckered into buying crap. some of my friends wrote about facebook and similar websites, football tickets, textbooks, etc. when i was thinking about what i wanted to do, i luckily came across an acquaintance who lives down the hall in my dorm. he had an armful of t-shirts he'd just bought downtown for cheap, which he showed me. most of them were obama '08 shirts (which tempted me to write about how political candidates and others make ridiculous amounts of money selling garbage like bumper stickers, signs, buttons, and t-shirts), but one had the face of che guevara in his famous pose on the front. i was interested because at the time i didn't really know much about him, though i'd seen his face on a lot of things around town, including shirts, hats, signs, and fliers. i asked the fellow why's he'd bought it and he said something like that it looked cool and he thought che was an interesting person. i decided to write my short essay on che guevara's 'stuff', and began my research. for those of you don't know, che was a famous revolutionary who was a part of several big time rebellions across the globe. he is heralded by many to be a great and interesting hero who fought against corruption and 'the system'. most of those people, however, haven't done their homework. a little research will show you that this che fellow isn't all he's cracked up to be. his revolutions involved civilian murders, assassinations, kidnapping, systematic execution, and kidnapping. furthermore, of all the revolutions he was involved in (i think about half a dozen) only one was ever successful to any signifciant extent; the one in Cuba, which helped put Fidel Castro in power (and that just went so well, didn't it?)

i wrote my essay based on this and how enterprising people spot a college kid's desire to seem 'cool' and 'independant' by having that guy's face on their chest and make loads of money off of it. i got an A- :)

anyways, to my point: if you're one of those tools who has a che t-shirt and wears it without knowing what you're doing, stop. that is, unless you hate capitalism and support murder.
if you want to wear a shirt with a great revolutionary on it, find one with joan of ark, ghandi, or thomas jefferson. someone who actually accomplished something, at least.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:24 pm
by Snorri1234
Che is a communist. Buy more crap from him.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:28 pm
by Balsiefen
Che Guevara, what a man, what an ideal, what a t-shirt.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:41 pm
by Frigidus
A Thomas Jefferson shirt would be pretty cool, I must say.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:52 pm
by Nobunaga
... Che rocks.

...

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:57 pm
by heavycola
bbqpenguin wrote:if you're one of those tools who has a che t-shirt and wears it without knowing what you're doing, stop. that is, unless you hate capitalism and support murder.


dude, why are you taking a class in advertising & pr?

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:04 pm
by Grooveman2007
Frigidus wrote:A Thomas Jefferson shirt would be pretty cool, I must say.


I'd buy a TJ shirt.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:07 pm
by bbqpenguin
heavycola wrote:
bbqpenguin wrote:if you're one of those tools who has a che t-shirt and wears it without knowing what you're doing, stop. that is, unless you hate capitalism and support murder.


dude, why are you taking a class in advertising & pr?




well to be honest, i'm actually getting paid by the thomas jefferson shirt makers to discourage purchase of the inferior che products. a little bit of brand warfare, you see :lol:
buy tj t-shirts: they'll cover your hairy chest, slice your tomatoes and make attrective women want to have sex with you!

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:10 pm
by bbqpenguin
Grooveman2007 wrote:
Frigidus wrote:A Thomas Jefferson shirt would be pretty cool, I must say.


I'd buy a TJ shirt.



also in my research, i came across this little gem that i thought was moderately humorous
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i'm almost tempted to shell out the 12 bucks

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:17 pm
by Neoteny
Is that who that is? I always thought it was Alec Baldwin in his younger days.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:33 pm
by Snorri1234
Neoteny wrote:Is that who that is? I always thought it was Alec Baldwin in his younger days.

I'm gonna go have a smoke right now. You want a smoke? You don't smoke, do ya, right? What are ya, one of those fitness freaks, huh? Go f*ck yourself.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:52 pm
by bbqpenguin
list of better revolutionaries to put on your t-shirt

any of the american founding fathers ( t.j., washington, hamilton...)
joan of arc
ghandi
mlk jr.
jesus
emiliano zapata


actually, for all you entrepreneurs out there you might be able to make some cash.... just be sure to give my my 15% cut

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:55 pm
by Skittles!
WILLIAM WALLACE, AGH!

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:02 pm
by bbqpenguin
Skittles! wrote:WILLIAM WALLACE, AGH!



ah but of course, how could i forget braveheart?

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:29 pm
by Skittles!
bbqpenguin wrote:
Skittles! wrote:WILLIAM WALLACE, AGH!



ah but of course, how could i forget braveheart?

No.. Just William Wallace. :)

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:19 pm
by got tonkaed
I think there might actually be a book about Che that talks about this very idea. I dont own it myself, but i remember seeing it in a bookstore and almost picked it up.

I think it was titled Exposing Che Guevara and the Useful idiots who idolize him. Might be worth a checkout to anyone interested in the subject.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:03 am
by Neoteny
bbqpenguin wrote:list of better revolutionaries to put on your t-shirt

any of the american founding fathers ( t.j., washington, hamilton...)
joan of arc
ghandi
mlk jr.
jesus
emiliano zapata


Really, this list leaves a lot to be desired.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:17 am
by Ntetos
bbqpenguin wrote:list of better revolutionaries to put on your t-shirt

any of the american founding fathers ( t.j., washington, hamilton...)
joan of arc
ghandi
mlk jr.
jesus
emiliano zapata




Do you think these revolutionaries didn't kill innocents during their revolutions? Except of gandhi, mlk who didn't and jesus who was not a revolutionarie the others surely have.That's what happens in revolutions. I agree however about all these idiots who idolize him without even knowing who he is.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:18 am
by Frigidus
Ntetos wrote:
bbqpenguin wrote:list of better revolutionaries to put on your t-shirt

any of the american founding fathers ( t.j., washington, hamilton...)
joan of arc
ghandi
mlk jr.
jesus
emiliano zapata




Do you think these revolutionaries didn't kill innocents during their revolutions? Except of gandhi, mlk who didn't and jesus who was not a revolutionarie the others surely have.That's what happens in revolutions. I agree however about all these idiots who idolize him without even knowing who he is.


Jesus, not a revolutionary? His teachings weren't exactly Roman mainstream.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:23 am
by Ntetos
Frigidus wrote:
Ntetos wrote:
bbqpenguin wrote:list of better revolutionaries to put on your t-shirt

any of the american founding fathers ( t.j., washington, hamilton...)
joan of arc
ghandi
mlk jr.
jesus
emiliano zapata




Do you think these revolutionaries didn't kill innocents during their revolutions? Except of gandhi, mlk who didn't and jesus who was not a revolutionarie the others surely have.That's what happens in revolutions. I agree however about all these idiots who idolize him without even knowing who he is.


Jesus, not a revolutionary? His teachings weren't exactly Roman mainstream.


He was only teaching. He didn't do anything. It's like calling Marx and Engels revolutionaries.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:26 am
by Neoteny
Ntetos wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
Ntetos wrote:
bbqpenguin wrote:list of better revolutionaries to put on your t-shirt

any of the american founding fathers ( t.j., washington, hamilton...)
joan of arc
ghandi
mlk jr.
jesus
emiliano zapata




Do you think these revolutionaries didn't kill innocents during their revolutions? Except of gandhi, mlk who didn't and jesus who was not a revolutionarie the others surely have.That's what happens in revolutions. I agree however about all these idiots who idolize him without even knowing who he is.


Jesus, not a revolutionary? His teachings weren't exactly Roman mainstream.


He was only teaching. He didn't do anything. It's like calling Marx and Engels revolutionaries.


Revolutions are not limited to armed conflict. Hell, they aren't even limited to original thoughts or concepts. Prime examples exist as Jesus, MLK, and Ghandi. At least Marx and Engels were trying to do something new. Not to leave out Newton, Galileo, Kopernicus, and Darwin, among many others.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:58 am
by jonesthecurl
Hereward the Wake.
Boudicca.
Owein Glendwr
Simon de Montfort.
Emily Pankhurst.
Robin Hood.


revolutionaries for an interesting t-shirt, all from the UK cos that's the history I know best. Not all necessarily real, and not lily-whte, but interesting.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:36 pm
by Skittles!
NED KELLY!

Though all he did was rob people. Wasn't that cool. But he's one of the most famous Australians way back in the day.

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:15 pm
by ksslemp
The best thing i like about che is..... He's DEAD!

HA HA.... Rot in Hell che!

Re: che paraphernalia (sp?)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:19 pm
by Frigidus
My avatar: wat? Oh, those clever mods.