Conquer Club

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... ird_Tower/

don't know if this works outside the UK. Anyway it's a v good BBC docu about the collapse of WTC tower 7 and the variosu theories - troofer, loose change dweebs, normal people, all of them - around it. It's pretty balanced if you can ignore the X-fileish music.

heavycola wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00fbd8g/The_Conspiracy_Files_Series_2_911_The_Truth_behind_the_Third_Tower/

don't know if this works outside the UK. Anyway it's a v good BBC docu about the collapse of WTC tower 7 and the variosu theories - troofer, loose change dweebs, normal people, all of them - around it. It's pretty balanced if you can ignore the X-fileish music.

You mean the national anthem of the Reptilian States of America?

heavycola wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00fbd8g/The_Conspiracy_Files_Series_2_911_The_Truth_behind_the_Third_Tower/

don't know if this works outside the UK. Anyway it's a v good BBC docu about the collapse of WTC tower 7 and the variosu theories - troofer, loose change dweebs, normal people, all of them - around it. It's pretty balanced if you can ignore the X-fileish music.

Does not work outside of the UK. Got any other link that may work?

Loose Change has already released a "debunking" video about it. They say that BBC is making stuff up about the truther claim, and straw-man-ing the rest. They did the same thing the last time. Appearantly some of the info in the video even goes directly against the commission report. I can't watch videos though, so I'm not gonna bother looking for/linking it.

Juan_Bottom wrote:Loose Change has already released a "debunking" video about it. They say that BBC is making stuff up about the truther claim, and straw-man-ing the rest. They did the same thing the last time. Appearantly some of the info in the video even goes directly against the commission report. I can't watch videos though, so I'm not gonna bother looking for/linking it.

in terms of rep for reliability, for documentaries at least, I would think BBC trumps whoever the hell made Loose Change.

Loose change would be the video that really started the "truth" movement. It was made by some college kids.

Anyway, I was just saying that according to Loose Change, the BBC did not answer their questions. I can't see either so I don't know. But Jason Burmas(one of the Loose Change creators) was on Genisis complaining about the BBC straw-man-ing their ideas.

Juan_Bottom wrote:Loose change would be the video that really started the "truth" movement. It was made by some college kids.

Anyway, I was just saying that according to Loose Change, the BBC did not answer their questions. I can't see either so I don't know. But Jason Burmas(one of the Loose Change creators) was on Genisis complaining about the BBC straw-man-ing their ideas.

They interview one of the loose change dudes, quite a bit. It's pretty balanced. They even discuss the 'OMG the BBC knew 20 minutes before tower 7 collapsed!!1!' bit.

And they interview the two men who got stuck in tower 7 after its evacuation. Including, interestingly, a guy called Barry who is angry at the way he says Loose Change twisted his testimony.

Essentially it's a lot more balanced than loose change - a LOT more. And all the BBC had to do was present both sides' arguments. It so happens that the troofer version is wrong, that's all.

PS sorry snorri - might be on piratebay?