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PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:16 pm
by Juan_Bottom
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/pressRel ... elease/258

PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care During 2008
Hypocritical Animal Rights Group’s 2008 Disclosures Bring Pet Death Toll To 21,339

WASHINGTON DC – Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008. Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia program, the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets every day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters.

According to public records from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124 pets last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since 1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the hands of PETA workers.

Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not operate an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom petitioned Virginia’s State Veterinarian to reclassify PETA as a slaughterhouse.

CCF Research Director David Martosko said: “PETA hasn’t slowed down its hypocritical killing machine one bit, but it keeps browbeating the rest of society with a phony ‘animal rights’ message. What about the rights of the thousands of dogs, cats, puppies, and kittens that die in PETA’s headquarters building?”

Martosko added: “Since killing pets is A-OK with PETA, why should anyone listen to their demands about eating meat, using lab rats for medical research, or taking children to the circus?”

CCF obtained PETA’s “Animal Record” filings since 1998 from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services. Members of the public can see these documents at PetaKillsAnimals.com.

(Skeptical? Click here to see the documents.)

In addition to exposing PETA’s hypocritical record of killing defenseless animals, the Center for Consumer Freedom has publicized the animal rights group’s ties to violent activists, and shed light on its aggressive message-marketing to children.



Is it hypocritical??? I dunno but seriously, lol @ PETA! That's what you get for sending me that flyer that stopped me from enjoying milk for 4 months. a**holes.

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:27 pm
by GabonX
Because it would be cruel to let the kittens grow up free...

"Give me cat food or give me death!"

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:29 pm
by bedub1
peta is a terrorist organization

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:32 pm
by kiddicus maximus
I like steak.

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:54 pm
by b.k. barunt
Juan_Bottom wrote:http://www.consumerfreedom.com/pressRelease_detail.cfm/release/258

PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care During 2008
Hypocritical Animal Rights Group’s 2008 Disclosures Bring Pet Death Toll To 21,339

WASHINGTON DC – Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008. Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia program, the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets every day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters.

According to public records from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124 pets last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since 1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the hands of PETA workers.

Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not operate an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom petitioned Virginia’s State Veterinarian to reclassify PETA as a slaughterhouse.

CCF Research Director David Martosko said: “PETA hasn’t slowed down its hypocritical killing machine one bit, but it keeps browbeating the rest of society with a phony ‘animal rights’ message. What about the rights of the thousands of dogs, cats, puppies, and kittens that die in PETA’s headquarters building?”

Martosko added: “Since killing pets is A-OK with PETA, why should anyone listen to their demands about eating meat, using lab rats for medical research, or taking children to the circus?”

CCF obtained PETA’s “Animal Record” filings since 1998 from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services. Members of the public can see these documents at PetaKillsAnimals.com.

(Skeptical? Click here to see the documents.)

In addition to exposing PETA’s hypocritical record of killing defenseless animals, the Center for Consumer Freedom has publicized the animal rights group’s ties to violent activists, and shed light on its aggressive message-marketing to children.



Is it hypocritical??? I dunno but seriously, lol @ PETA! That's what you get for sending me that flyer that stopped me from enjoying milk for 4 months. a**holes.


So what pets were you getting milk from?


Honibaz

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:24 pm
by Juan_Bottom
You asked for it.
Cow milk is tested many times before it reaches the store fridges. One of the tests is the "milk pus test" to see exactly how much of the milk is pus. Appearantly milk is made out of large amounts of pus. The flyer showed pics and everything. Luckely I grew up on a farm so nothing could turn me away from milk permenantly.

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:08 pm
by PLAYER57832
Juan_Bottom wrote:You asked for it.
Cow milk is tested many times before it reaches the store fridges. One of the tests is the "milk puss test" to see exactly how much of the milk is puss. Appearantly milk is made out of large amounts of pus. The flyer showed pics and everything. Luckely I grew up on a farm so nothing could turn me away from milk permenantly.



I was going to respond until I read that last sentence... As a matter of fact, CA milk doesn't even use hormones, because they have more problem from overproduction than underproduction! Pus, etc... yep they do test for it all, but the amounts they test for are so small that even one semi-infected cow in a few thousand will cause a whole tank or vat (if the truck was somehow dumped before testing) to be dumped.

I lost any and all respect for PETA about the time they compaigned against wearing wool.. showing pictures of horribly mauled sheep as "what happens" in sheep shearing .. plus descriptions of young animals left in the freezing cold to after being shorn. I grew up next to sheep farms. Any sheerer who NICKED a sheep would not be asked back.. never mind a mauling like those pictures showed, and as for the cold .. that's why they sheer them in the spring, when its warming up. If they didn't, the sheep would get overheated... but PETA is interested in sensationalism, not sense.

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:38 pm
by jonesthecurl
PETA is an organisation I never heard of before arriving in the U.S.
Are they Vegans?
Some vegans want all pets exterminated (they call it something else) as having a wild animal in your home is "unnatural" and "cruel". Obviously all farm animals would be killed off too, since nobody's gonna raise those animals if no-one's gonna eat them.

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:41 pm
by neanderpaul14
b.k. barunt wrote:So what pets were you getting milk from?



Greg Focker: You can milk just about anything with nipples.
Jack Byrnes: I have nipples, Greg, could you milk me?

Meet the Parents

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:47 pm
by PLAYER57832
jonesthecurl wrote:PETA is an organisation I never heard of before arriving in the U.S.
Are they Vegans?
Some vegans want all pets exterminated (they call it something else) as having a wild animal in your home is "unnatural" and "cruel". Obviously all farm animals would be killed off too, since nobody's gonna raise those animals if no-one's gonna eat them.


People for the ethical treatment of animals is their name. They don't believe in killing pets or anything else, supposedly.

But .. you raise an interesting point. I have said many times over that farm animals are one thing in no danger of extinction. The easiest way to ensure animals thrive is to find ways they can be directly useful to human beings. Then"extinction" just does not seem to happen ;)

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:25 pm
by b.k. barunt
Juan_Bottom wrote:You asked for it.
Cow milk is tested many times before it reaches the store fridges. One of the tests is the "milk puss test" to see exactly how much of the milk is puss. Appearantly milk is made out of large amounts of puss. The flyer showed pics and everything. Luckely I grew up on a farm so nothing could turn me away from milk permenantly.


A female friend of mine when into near hysterics for 15 or 20 minutes after i showed her this post. Did you mean pus? Because my first inclination after reading this was to get a big ole glass of milk, but if you meant pus, well that's a different story. The "milk puss test" - mmmm.
* * . . . and falls over backwards in chair * *


Honibaz

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:19 pm
by Juan_Bottom
Wow, I simply can't believe that I spelled it wrong like that thrice. Excuse my insomnia.

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:07 am
by jonesthecurl
PLAYER57832 wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:PETA is an organisation I never heard of before arriving in the U.S.
Are they Vegans?
Some vegans want all pets exterminated (they call it something else) as having a wild animal in your home is "unnatural" and "cruel". Obviously all farm animals would be killed off too, since nobody's gonna raise those animals if no-one's gonna eat them.


People for the ethical treatment of animals is their name. They don't believe in killing pets or anything else, supposedly.

But .. you raise an interesting point. I have said many times over that farm animals are one thing in no danger of extinction. The easiest way to ensure animals thrive is to find ways they can be directly useful to human beings. Then"extinction" just does not seem to happen ;)



Zebra steaks and wilderbeeest shoes are the best guaruntees of these species survival.

I took a veggie friend to a farm show once, and at the petting area she said "how could you eat that?", pointing to a cute creatures (that made my mouth water). I said, "If I couldn't. it wouldn't be here."

I have heard no convincig rebuttal of my point , and I have , honestly, seen and heard arguments by supposedly animal-friendly persons that all domesticated animals should (at the very least) be sterilized.

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:39 am
by b.k. barunt
I have an innate mistrust for people who don't eat meat. It's unnatural. Besides, plants have feelings too.


Honibaz

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:09 am
by kiddicus maximus
Bacon's good. Pork chops are good.

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:15 am
by TheProwler
I think PETA thinks it is more humane to euthanize cats and dogs than let them live as pets. I am not sure of their official stance, but I think PETA would prefer that people do not have dogs and cats as pets.

I actually agree with PETA on some of their battles. But they are extremists and much of what they do is overboard, in my opinion.

I will say that I support local farmers and I am against factory farming. I think that we should provide a decent quality of life for animals before we kill them for food.

Spay and neuter your pets. There are too many unwanted dogs and cats and if you are adding new pets to the population, it is simple math. X number of homes for pets. Y number of pets. Y>X, so Y-X have to be killed. If you add a litter to the population, it is that many that have to be killed to make room.

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:20 am
by kiddicus maximus
Bob Barker approves this message.

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:38 am
by MeDeFe
Newsflash!

100% of all living beings will die!

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:38 am
by AAFitz
MeDeFe wrote:Newsflash!

100% of all living beings will die!


Yes, but the important part is the living part.

Given the choice, most would choose to make that part as long as reasonably possible, and as comfortable as possible, the fact that it will end at some point is irrelevant.

I prefer living in a house with running water, electricity, and food...but given the option of being thrown out into the woods to try and survive on my own, or going to sleep forever...Ill take my chances in the woods every time.

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:38 am
by jonesthecurl
TheProwler wrote:I think PETA thinks it is more humane to euthanize cats and dogs than let them live as pets. I am not sure of their official stance, but I think PETA would prefer that people do not have dogs and cats as pets.

I actually agree with PETA on some of their battles. But they are extremists and much of what they do is overboard, in my opinion.

I will say that I support local farmers and I am against factory farming. I think that we should provide a decent quality of life for animals before we kill them for food.

Spay and neuter your pets. There are too many unwanted dogs and cats and if you are adding new pets to the population, it is simple math. X number of homes for pets. Y number of pets. Y>X, so Y-X have to be killed. If you add a litter to the population, it is that many that have to be killed to make room.


Worryingly I again seem to agree with Prowler.

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:07 am
by PLAYER57832
TheProwler wrote:I think PETA thinks it is more humane to euthanize cats and dogs than let them live as pets. I am not sure of their official stance, but I think PETA would prefer that people do not have dogs and cats as pets.

I don't agree here. Dogs are in no way wild animals any longer. I do think extreme and over-breeding is an issue, but dogs and cats are quite happy in their associations with humans. There is no other place for them to be.

TheProwler wrote:I actually agree with PETA on some of their battles. But they are extremists and much of what they do is overboard, in my opinion.

I will say that I support local farmers and I am against factory farming. I think that we should provide a decent quality of life for animals before we kill them for food.

Spay and neuter your pets. There are too many unwanted dogs and cats and if you are adding new pets to the population, it is simple math. X number of homes for pets. Y number of pets. Y>X, so Y-X have to be killed. If you add a litter to the population, it is that many that have to be killed to make room.


I agree with the last 2, though my reasons for disagreeing with the factory farming has more to do with consumer health and environmental impact than anything else.

BUT, they way PETA goes about it and the incredibly erroneous information they put out in support of their many varied positions, plus the plain impracticality of many of them, puts them well beyond somethig I agree with ... even if a few of our positions happen to agree.

The do FAR more harm than good in what they advocate, because so much of it is just plain wrong.

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:05 am
by b.k. barunt
PLAYER57832 wrote:
TheProwler wrote:I think PETA thinks it is more humane to euthanize cats and dogs than let them live as pets. I am not sure of their official stance, but I think PETA would prefer that people do not have dogs and cats as pets.

I don't agree here. Dogs are in no way wild animals any longer.


My parents live in the mountains above Grass Valley, CA. When i go to visit them i walk up the mountain about 100 yds and sleep out in the open in a sleeping bag. There's a few bears and cougars around, but i wasn't concerned enough to sleep with more than a hunting knife, until i had a pack of 7 or 8 dogs run within 50 ft of me one night. I'd heard of these dogs from my parents, and they were simply pets from surrounding homes of well to do yuppies and retirees who live up there to get away from the cities, but certain nights they would run together. They would take down deer regularly and one time chased a bear and treed it. A couple times they menaced people - one climbed a tree and one made it to his car in time - both times the people reported that the dogs attacked viciously. I slept with a pistol after that night.

All domesticated animals are capable of reverting, given the right circumstances - hell i've seen people revert to savage behavior quite a few times. Don't ever make the mistake of considering a dog to be less than what it is - a wild animal that has been temporarily tamed.


Honibaz

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:55 pm
by TheProwler
PLAYER57832 wrote:
TheProwler wrote:I think PETA thinks it is more humane to euthanize cats and dogs than let them live as pets. I am not sure of their official stance, but I think PETA would prefer that people do not have dogs and cats as pets.

I don't agree here. Dogs are in no way wild animals any longer. I do think extreme and over-breeding is an issue, but dogs and cats are quite happy in their associations with humans. There is no other place for them to be.

I agree. The bond between humans and dogs is undeniable. Some would argue that cats are a little closer to being wild...I am not sure about that, but I will admit they can be more independent and can live in the wild and be less of a concern to humans than wild dogs.

But, I think dogs and cats are happiest when living with people. I personally think it is our responsibility to ensure they have a comfortable life - we (humans) domesticated them and with that comes responsibility.

Quick edit here: I think this is a question of definition of "wild". I agree with BK that dogs can be quite vicious. I have a bull terrier that can become a ball of destruction if she feels threatened. And she has an extremely strong prey drive. If my cat gets spooked, she can do a tonne of damage in seconds. But, like BK said, people can be the same way - and we don't classify people as "wild animals". I suppose I am not focused on the word "wild" and its definition. I am speaking mostly about contentment and how a dog or cat would prefer to live.

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:57 pm
by PLAYER57832
TheProwler wrote: I am speaking mostly about contentment and how a dog or cat would prefer to live.

This was really my main point.

b.k. barunt wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
TheProwler wrote:I think PETA thinks it is more humane to euthanize cats and dogs than let them live as pets. I am not sure of their official stance, but I think PETA would prefer that people do not have dogs and cats as pets.

I don't agree here. Dogs are in no way wild animals any longer.


My parents live in the mountains above Grass Valley, CA. When i go to visit them i walk up the mountain about 100 yds and sleep out in the open in a sleeping bag. There's a few bears and cougars around, but i wasn't concerned enough to sleep with more than a hunting knife, until i had a pack of 7 or 8 dogs run within 50 ft of me one night. I'd heard of these dogs from my parents, and they were simply pets from surrounding homes of well to do yuppies and retirees who live up there to get away from the cities, but certain nights they would run together. They would take down deer regularly and one time chased a bear and treed it. A couple times they menaced people - one climbed a tree and one made it to his car in time - both times the people reported that the dogs attacked viciously. I slept with a pistol after that night.

All domesticated animals are capable of reverting, given the right circumstances - hell i've seen people revert to savage behavior quite a few times. Don't ever make the mistake of considering a dog to be less than what it is - a wild animal that has been temporarily tamed.


Honibaz


This is true, but brings up a different, even more important point. Dogs just don't belong in southern California... there are no predators. I am not sure they would survive so well with true predators about, or even real competitors for food. Also, they wreak absolute havoc on the ecology.

A cat held by a lighthouse keeper, for example is attributed with the utter decimation, of the bird population on that island...and possibly the extinction of one endangered species (it might have been responsible for killing the few remaining specimens).

I used to live on a farm .. people would regularly drop off cats, dogs thinking "there's a farm...". Let's just say that the LUCKY ones were those we found and took to a shelter AND those my dad sometimes killed (depening on their condition, etc.).


This is another area where a bit of education goes a lot further than "sympathy" -- goldfish, for example are quite hardy and have been introduced to a variety of lakes by well meaning kids letting their "pets" go free.... and completely ruining the ecology of many lakes as a result!

Re: PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:29 pm
by b.k. barunt
Good point. Cats can definitely ruin the local ecosystem of an area, and dogs, when in a pack (like police) become extremely brave and vicious. In Bombay, there are parts of the city where it's too dangerous to go at night because of the dog packs. Most people in this country shouldn't be allowed to have dogs, as they're too stupid to train them properly. There's nothing worse than being kept awake at night by yapping dogs owned by brain dead neighbors.


Honibaz