PLAYER57832 wrote:As I thought, You don't have evidence, just opinion. That's a cop out. ANY system will be abused by some people. You claimed that bankruptcies are not really from medical expenses, though several studies (posted earlier in this thread, in fact) show you are wrong.
I asked you to provide your counter evidence. If you have it, provide it. Else you are talking garbage.
my basic argument here is these studies do not take into account all the abuse that happens. they are written to try and sway peoples thoughts one way or another. did you read the study? could you not tell the author was bias. you claim that my judgement is just based on my unintelligent thought. well whatever i guess. i see how the world works and don't need to do Google searches to try and rationalize my actions. if this isn't good enough, we're done here.
we cant have a world full of doctors, lawyers, ballerinas and astronauts. this job problem is a hoax. my company can't find workers. we have 8 "3 man" crews that total about 17. ( that means we are hiring 7 people at the moment ) this has been a constant problem for about a year now since my company laid off all illegal workers. this is just one department. we have nearly 400 employees. we could probably stand to hire about 60 more people on a "will train" basis. but most people have sociology degrees and are too good for the positions we have to offer.
PLAYER57832 wrote:One example a big cause of homelessness, even TODAY is that Reagan (yep, him) "realeased" a lot of people from psychiatric institutions.. without making sure there were effective helps in place.
so now all homeless people are physchotic? could you show your work here?
PLAYER57832 wrote:'Another--- the Republicans like to claim that the increase in food stamps, etc in the past few years is evidence of abuse, instead of evidence that people are hurting do to stupid mistakes made by the BUSH administration, mistakes Romney now wants to repeat in spades.
can you buy poptarts with foodstamps?
are poptarts necessary to life?
this is my evidence that foodstamps are abused. if you buy any luxury item on foodstamps, yoiu are stealing.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Evidence, please... AGAIN, and not just an isolated idiot.
Here.. I will beat you to the punch. About 80% of kids in my school district, including my own up until last year, get either free or subsidized lunches. A few have stupid parents, sure. Many more are in families that suffered job losses, injury, divorce. Evne when it is idiot parents, cutting off food aid is not the answer. Nor, in many cases is taking the kids and throwing them into social services (though in some cases, absolutely).
So, I am one of those "users" and "abusers". And I honestly dare you to try and get into THAT debate with me. You are very quick to make judgements, but have not the experience or the willingness to even see if your beliefs are valid. That's more than digusting, its abuse of intelligence AND the system. Because you are willing to break it without bothering to find out if your ideas really have any bearing on true problems.
how much is a school lunch these days?
when i was in school it was 85 cents. so lets say it's now at 2 bucks due to govt induced inflation.
it's a damn shame if you can't come up with 10 bucks a week to feed your children. why have them if you can 't take care of them. i realize there are "certain" circumstances that make me look like a complete jerk and asshole here. but for petes sake, how many people getting free lunches honestly can't afford it. can you get me some numbers and percentages there? i don't feel like it. but i'm sure that to my standards it's way over what is acceptable for me.
PLAYER57832 wrote:That's bull.
And no, its not just "your opinion", because you have based "your opinion" upon an utter lack of information.
and i think i pinched a nerve with you, which was not my intention, so don't take any of this personal please,
if you feel you are doing the best you can with what you got, then there is no need to let someone on the internet rattle and bother you. i'm not here for that. i'm just passionate about my opinions however unintelligent you deem them to be. and i'll probably go to the grave without them changing much. unless maybe one day i am in dire need for these same govt assist. programs that i disgust which mind you that i am not against giving to those truly in need it's just i think there is way more abuse than what anyone wants to admit then i may change my stance a bit on it. but until then, i can't stand all this waste as the country goes down the tube. ( i know my grammer is bad here and i don't capitalize and use punctuation. and my spelling is off too. if you need help deciphering any of it pleaes pm me and when i get time i will try and get to it. ) it's just i'm getting tired is all.
back to insurance...
you say that by raising the cost of the healthy to lower the cost of the sick will eventually lower the cost of all healthcare later on down the road? is this some magic trick?
really, do costs ever really go down. and if so do you have a projection for when my insurance will go down? i love saving money. i mean when will my sacrafice for paying more for insurance to lower the costs of smokers and sugar/fat overeaters and alcoholics and drug users pay off for me? 4 more years? if obama is re-elected? or will it take longer than that. maybe 60 years? well hopefully not that long, cause by then i'll be 93. even by eating healthy i don't think i can guarantee myself a spot to the 90 club.