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I usually dont do this...but.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:52 am
by KoolBak
So my bro in law just sent me this - he got it from a relation that is LAPD.....up for your discussion. Needless to say, this infuriates me if it is true :twisted:

COPY:

Check it out here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp
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Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It may require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun. This bill was introduced on Feb.. 24. This bill will become public knowledge 30 days after it is voted into law. This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee can pass this without the Senate voting on it at all.
The full text of the proposed amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage,http://www.senate.gov/ You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099.
You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do. Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text

Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply.

It has started.

Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.

Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because the government is trying to fly it under the radar.
To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

It is registered -You are fingerprinted -You supply a current Driver's License -You supply yourSocial Security # -You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing -Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail. -There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. -They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.
If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pass this along.

This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.

This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.

<http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

<http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show

<http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45

Please.. copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA, whether you support the Right to Bear Arms or are for gun control. We all should have the right to choose.

Re: I usually dont do this...but.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:25 pm
by john9blue
Facebook statused.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:26 pm
by thegreekdog
Oh good lord.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:26 pm
by Neoteny
"Under the radar?" You people need to find new news sources.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:14 pm
by Borderdawg
No worries bro! This is a total bullshit rumor that has been popping up for years. SB2099 was introduced 9 years ago by Sen. Jack Reed (D. R.I.) for the purpose of taxing handguns. It died long ago, and didn't even resemble the crap being posted these days! Go to nraila.org to debunk this and other rumors. Believe me, I keep a close eye on the gun control freaks, seeing as I have a housefull of firearms!!
And remember, gun control really means hitting your target in the kill zone, repeatedly!! :D

Re: I usually dont do this...but.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:18 pm
by Nobunaga
... Anybody else here love that scene in "Red Dawn", where a Russian soldier is prying a gun from a dead man's fingers, and then you see the bumbersticker, "You can take my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers"?

... Great scene. I hope that guy got some Russians before he went down.

...

Re: I usually dont do this...but.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:19 pm
by Neoteny
Hardy har.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:32 pm
by KoolBak
That is heartening news Border-D....my thanks :D

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:49 pm
by Borderdawg
KoolBak wrote:That is heartening news Border-D....my thanks :D



You're welcome! We don't need these bogus problems, when we have enough real ones. Like getting the libs to understand that their First Amendment rights hinge solely on our Second Amendment rights!!

Re: I usually dont do this...but.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:00 pm
by Neoteny
I thought they hinged on killing Muslims? Or was it bombing Iran? I can't keep up with you kids anymore.

I can't wait until Texas secedes.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:17 pm
by Borderdawg
Neoteny wrote:I thought they hinged on killing Muslims? Or was it bombing Iran? I can't keep up with you kids anymore.

I can't wait until Texas secedes.



Kids?!?!? LMFAO!! Dude, check my profile. I'm old enough to be your daddy!! And might be, cause I've spread my oats coast to coast, border to border, and in more than a few foreign countries, courtesy of Uncle Sugars haze gray and underway cruise line!! {maybe that explains why I like you, even though we are polar opposites on most subjects!!} Catch you later, son!! :lol:

Re: I usually dont do this...but.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:18 pm
by Neoteny
You are old. Ever been to Kansas?

Re: I usually dont do this...but.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:29 pm
by jonesthecurl
Bah, he's a youngun.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:30 pm
by GabonX
Neoteny wrote:I thought they hinged on killing Muslims? Or was it bombing Iran? I can't keep up with you kids anymore.

I can't wait until Texas secedes.

Liberty hinges on maintaining the means to defend it. If you give up those means you are subject to the will of those who have not.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:32 pm
by Neoteny
When was the last time defending the first amendment had to resort to public use of firearms?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:33 pm
by GabonX
Neoteny wrote:When was the last time defending the first amendment had to resort to public use of firearms?

I don't know, but this is irrelevant as it does not address the future. The future is not settled by the action or inaction of the past, but rather that of the present.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:36 pm
by SultanOfSurreal
Nobunaga wrote:... Anybody else here love that scene in "Red Dawn", where a Russian soldier is prying a gun from a dead man's fingers, and then you see the bumbersticker, "You can take my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers"?

... Great scene. I hope that guy got some Russians before he went down.

...


why do i get the distinct feeling that you've masturbated to that scene

(i know, it's because red dawn is porn for shitheels like you)

Re: I usually dont do this...but.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:40 pm
by john9blue
SultanOfSurreal wrote:why do i get the distinct feeling that you've masturbated to that scene

(i know, it's because red dawn is porn for shitheels like you)


Why do I get the distinct feeling that you have nothing good to contribute?

(I know, it's because you decide to fling insults like a child...) :roll:

Re: I usually dont do this...but.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:53 pm
by Neoteny
GabonX wrote:
Neoteny wrote:When was the last time defending the first amendment had to resort to public use of firearms?

I don't know, but this is irrelevant as it does not address the future. The future is not settled by the action or inaction of the past, but rather that of the present.


Fortunately, the past serves as a nice example of how things have gone, and the options we have when certain circumstances occur. If we haven't needed the arms for over 200 years, that's a notable thing, if you believe we've made progress (with no help from the guns, on a tangent).

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:59 pm
by Borderdawg
Neoteny wrote:You are old. Ever been to Kansas?


Like I said, I've been coast to coast and border to border! Hell, in 84 I think it was, I went to a party in Vegas and sobered up in Syracuse, New York 43 days later, with a new paint job on my sled and not much memory of where I'd been or who I'd done in between!! And yeah, I'm old, but just remember, age and treachery WILL overcome youth and skill! ;)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:18 pm
by MeDeFe
Borderdawg wrote:Hell, in 84 I think it was...

My first thought was "this guy has really been traveling a lot".

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:22 pm
by Neoteny
Borderdawg wrote:
Neoteny wrote:You are old. Ever been to Kansas?


Like I said, I've been coast to coast and border to border! Hell, in 84 I think it was, I went to a party in Vegas and sobered up in Syracuse, New York 43 days later, with a new paint job on my sled and not much memory of where I'd been or who I'd done in between!! And yeah, I'm old, but just remember, age and treachery WILL overcome youth and skill! ;)


Upon further thought, I was born in Kansas, but I was conceived in Korea. The '84 would match the timeline appropriately, but you would have to wind up in Korea sometime in August. Might you have gone overseas during your trip?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:26 pm
by pimpdave
When Texas secedes, does that mean the Dallas Cowboys will no longer be in the NFL? Would they still be able to constantly declare themselves "America's Team"?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
by Borderdawg
Neoteny wrote:
Borderdawg wrote:
Neoteny wrote:You are old. Ever been to Kansas?


Like I said, I've been coast to coast and border to border! Hell, in 84 I think it was, I went to a party in Vegas and sobered up in Syracuse, New York 43 days later, with a new paint job on my sled and not much memory of where I'd been or who I'd done in between!! And yeah, I'm old, but just remember, age and treachery WILL overcome youth and skill! ;)


Upon further thought, I was born in Kansas, but I was conceived in Korea. The '84 would match the timeline appropriately, but you would have to wind up in Korea sometime in August. Might you have gone overseas during your trip?


Nope, not that trip. I guess you're not one of mine. (So we can BOTH give a deep sigh of relief!!) lol! I do like you though, you have a good sense of humor! Even if we don't agree on things!

Re: I usually dont do this...but.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:39 pm
by Neoteny
I'm glad humor bridges all gaps. Maybe if everyone took themselves less seriously, we'd all get along.