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happysadfun wrote:china: Add Mongolia!
zim wrote:Still to do:
Fix circles and text at 600. Note to self and other future map makers: Do the 600 pixel version first and then scale up
zim wrote:Recalculate sub-continent and full continent bonuses. Weight sub-continents lower so that players are incented to agressively pursue full continents.
zim wrote:Solve Myanmar/Thailand/Indo-china/Malaysia congestion problem (probably have to merge one or more).
zim wrote:Correct spelling of Colombia.
zim wrote:Done, got rid of Myanmar and Malaysia.
zim wrote:....... Mongolia needs to be part of the blue territory and the expanded area renamed "The Far East" to encompas Japan, China, Mongolia, Korea and Taiwan?....
Marvaddin wrote:...About Brazil, there are 3 geoeconomical areas: Amazon (Amazonia in Portuguese), that you called Amazonas, Northeast and Center-South (both form what you called Brasilia). For Brazilian Amazon, I think Amazonas is a good name, since its the name of that incredible river. Brazilian Amazon would be another option. The other area would be a South and East area, maybe called Eastern Brazil, or Southeastern Brazil, I dont have a good name to it. Since Brasilia is the capitol, maybe we can use it.
Anyway, South America subcontinents are totally unreal. If you want Amazonia and Andes, we will have problems. Colombia should belong to both... belong to none is terrible. So is Peru. So, maybe we can have Andes (including Colombia) and Plata, area with rivers Paraguay, Uruguay, Parana,... This should include Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay and Brazilian Center-South. 2 problems, but easier than those in actual version: Argentina should belong to both (although its much more to Plata), and we would need change the way Brazil is splitted (we could call Center South "Parana", the name of another great river). The best way to divide, however, is between Amazon and Plata, alike that thing I suggested. Amazon should have Peru, Equador (? - I need check this), Colombia, Venezuela and Brazilian Amazon. No many problems here. And Andes, as its a narrow North-South area, will be a continent with many many borders. The single problem here is, what to do to Brazil Northeast area? Lets split Brazil in 3?
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Edit: lol, I feel like a South America expert here... and in fact, compared to you guys, I probably am
steve monkey wrote:I'm sorry for repeating myself because I've made this point before, but it wasn't acknowledged first time round. It is ridiculous to call a territory Rhodesia. This was the old colonial name for the country now known as Zimbabwe. The name of this territory does not fit in with the rest of the map. It would make sense to change it to something more appropriate.
happysadfun wrote:zim wrote:....... Mongolia needs to be part of the blue territory and the expanded area renamed "The Far East" to encompas Japan, China, Mongolia, Korea and Taiwan?....
That one
zim wrote:Marvaddin;
Let me make sure I've got it before redrawing. Your recommendation is to keep the Andes subcontinent but to adjust it to include Chile, Bolivia, Peru, and Colombia. Ecuador would become 'neutral'. Second sub-continent is Plata with Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay and 'southern' Brazil (currrently Brasillia but to be renamed Parana. Northern Brazil (Amazonas), Guyanas and Venuezuala would be neutral. If I've got it, I like it. Let me know if I've got it right and I'll update the borders.
Marvaddin wrote:zim wrote:Marvaddin;
Let me make sure I've got it before redrawing. Your recommendation is to keep the Andes subcontinent but to adjust it to include Chile, Bolivia, Peru, and Colombia. Ecuador would become 'neutral'. Second sub-continent is Plata with Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay and 'southern' Brazil (currrently Brasillia but to be renamed Parana. Northern Brazil (Amazonas), Guyanas and Venuezuala would be neutral. If I've got it, I like it. Let me know if I've got it right and I'll update the borders.
My recommendation, if two continents, is Plata and Amazon. If you want to maintain Andes, it should be Argentina (but it will be in Plata), Chile, Bolivia, Peru, Equador and Colombia. Plata is Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, and Southern Brail, but not as it is now, if so we need change Brazil split. If you want Amazon, it needs Venezuela, Colombia, Peru, Amazonas, Bolivia, and I will confirm if Ecuador will be part too.
happysadfun wrote:I still think it would be good to have the Tawantinsuyu.
Marvaddin wrote:Im suggesting Amazon (or Amazonia, your choice - is it really called Amazon in English, right?) and Plata (i can look for name alternatives) also because Andes would be a poor designed continent, with many many borders, almost all countries, in fact.
DublinDoogey wrote:i dunno how decided it is, but i wanted to say that i think the white background aids legibility, while the water negates it.
Marvaddin wrote:Im all up to know happy' suggestion of how to split countries.
Im suggesting Amazon (or Amazonia, your choice - is it really called Amazon in English, right?) and Plata (i can look for name alternatives) also because Andes would be a poor designed continent, with many many borders, almost all countries, in fact.
I think we should use the forest to create that subcontinent, and so Venezuela is in.
About the Brazilian division, there is no a good way to split the huge territory in 2 regions only.
3 main regions are:
Amazônia:
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regi%C3%A3 ... _do_Brasil
Center-South (this is what I call Parana, or Paraná - accented in Portuguese):
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regi%C3%A3 ... _do_Brasil
Northeast:
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regi%C3%A3 ... _do_Brasil
This last region is not alike to any of the others, so more correct is not include in the others, and create another territory. How about it? If you dislike, well... its more to Center-South than to Amazonia, you can put the major part in Center South (Parana) - but again consider the idea of a new territory.
One more word: well, even if you use 3 regions for Brazil, the borders looks artificial (specially considering Center-South), maybe you can make minor changes to give them a more realistic aspect. This is a problem of this Wikipedia map, but I couldnt find another one better.
maritovw wrote:Marvaddin wrote:Im suggesting Amazon (or Amazonia, your choice - is it really called Amazon in English, right?) and Plata (i can look for name alternatives) also because Andes would be a poor designed continent, with many many borders, almost all countries, in fact.
How about calling it South Cone instead of Andes or Plata?? that name is actually used to refer to that region.
ZawBanjito wrote:I'm completely lost in this discussion, but I just wanted to pipe in and say that I'm salivating to play this map. I haven't been this excited about a new map in ages. I also want to applaud zim for his dedicated work ethic that is really driving it forward. He's listening to all the input and the map is just looking top grade, man, just totally A+ Double Stuf. Keep up the good work!
AndyDufresne wrote:When it's ready, and not a minute sooner.
--Andy
DublinDoogey wrote:I like the flat blue background, it achieves the clarity that's needed along with a background that doesn't look unfinished (if that makes sense)
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