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Do you agree with the concept of 3 different Military Paths, each with its own rank?

Yes, although I think the old path should still be an option (4-Path)
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Yes, I agree fully with qwert's proposed 3-Path System
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Yes, I want new ranks, but not the 3-Path System
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9%
Yes, I like the new ranks but not the graphics
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10%
No, the ranks are fine as they are
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Total votes : 271

Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby KoE_Sirius on Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:39 pm

I think we already have enough ranks,but your icons look great.maybe we can change some of them for yours.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby PLAYER57832 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:20 pm

Nice work!

I would still like to see something other than "cook" ... something like latrine cleaner or scrubby, but I guess folks are attached to "cook".

Also, I think we do need something up higher. The folks who care most about rank are the folks up there. The rest don't really. We are mostly here to play, have fun. Medals are nice, but rank is ... not such a big deal.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby MrBenn on Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:39 am

Hmmm.. you're probably right about the medals having an impact on the perception of rank, although I still think that your rank is a better indication of how good you are v the number of games you've played.

The initial suggestions were about increasing the points required/adding in higher ranks. I looked through the numbers of players at each rank yesterday, and had never properly realised how few players of 'high rank' that there really are!... If you make it to Lieutenant, that puts you in the top 10% of players!

When I looked at the distribution of scores, I came up with the addition of '50pt' score boundaries which I've incorporated into the above suggestion. While I can see how the score-margins appear insignificantly small to a 'high-ranked' played, the sheer volume of people with scores at the 'lower' levels gives some credence to having point-margins like this (look at the % of players). Also consider that many of these 'lower' ranks include titles such as Lance-xxx or xxx-1st-Class as a way of interpreting them as some kind of 'half-ranks'.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby yeti_c on Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:58 am

MrBenn wrote:In my mind, the idea was to add some ranks to distinguish between the multitude of players on 'average' ranks; the thought being to add more ranks where the bulk of players are to give them extra incentive/something to strive to achieve.. I have churned through the scoreboard to get a feel for the balance of scores, and have come up with the following suggestion:
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You'll notice that I have come up with something that vaguely correlates to the current structure - although instead of bulking out the higher ranks, effectively this has created some 'half-ranks'...


This is the most complete (and useful) suggestion of new ranks in this thread.

C.

PS - although you missed your lieutenant colonel out of your listing.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby MrBenn on Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:08 pm

yeti_c wrote:
MrBenn wrote:In my mind, the idea was to add some ranks to distinguish between the multitude of players on 'average' ranks; the thought being to add more ranks where the bulk of players are to give them extra incentive/something to strive to achieve.. I have churned through the scoreboard to get a feel for the balance of scores, and have come up with the following suggestion:
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You'll notice that I have come up with something that vaguely correlates to the current structure - although instead of bulking out the higher ranks, effectively this has created some 'half-ranks'...


This is the most complete (and useful) suggestion of new ranks in this thread.

C.

Thanks yeti.
yeti_c wrote:PS - although you missed your lieutenant colonel out of your listing.

Are you suggesting that there should be an extra rank between Major/Colonel:
2000 Captain
2300 Major
2600 Lt Colonel
3000 Colonel
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Or are you alluding to the fact that some of the ideas I mentioned earlier on the page have vanished? When I reviewed the spread of ranks, I thought I was trying to squueze too many in...
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby White Moose on Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:22 pm

Ever thought that the ranks are good as they are? I do at least :)
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby yeti_c on Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:51 am

MrBenn wrote:Or are you alluding to the fact that some of the ideas I mentioned earlier on the page have vanished? When I reviewed the spread of ranks, I thought I was trying to squueze too many in...


This bit!!!

I assumed you'd translated the above list into the "before after" list... (which is confusing as it's an "after before" list which doesn't read well!!!)

I didn't realise you tweaked a few in/out. - either way my comment stands about your suggested ranks.

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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby FabledIntegral on Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:29 pm

Ranks already have less meaning after the last reset...

Points are points, they won't change with this change, just the meaning of rankings will be less significant.
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Re: Ranks

Postby Kitchen Sink on Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:43 am

qwert wrote:Well these is only mine opinion.
Now you have -Lieutenant,Captain,Major,Colonel,brigadier,General and Fiel MArshall over 2000 players.
With these new Score counting you will get only 160 players with high ranks and you will Create hard to get General and Field Marshal rank(now you have one Field Marshal,5 generals,25 brigadier,82 colonel,over 400 major,over 500 Captain,and almost 1000 Lieutenant)and these number can be biger,but i repeat again that these is only mine opinion.

Given 22,000+ players, I think you made the point that the ranks are hard enough to reach already...
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby Qwert on Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:42 am

Given 22,000+ players, I think you made the point that the ranks are hard enough to reach already...

no,new changes now we have 3 field marshal,9 generals and 26 brigadier(colonels i dont count because numbers is biger then last mine check)
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby lancehoch on Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:10 pm

If the change is implemented, what are the completed game requirements for each rank? Like how now you need 100 games to be a colonel. Any comments?
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby MrBenn on Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:25 am

lancehoch wrote:If the change is implemented, what are the completed game requirements for each rank? Like how now you need 100 games to be a colonel. Any comments?

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I'm not too sure about the number of games for the highest ranks... the only person at the top of the scorebpoard who might be adversely affected would by Thai Robert, who is currently a freemium Brigadier with 159 completed games...
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby Night Strike on Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:50 am

I like all these new ranks, except for the really low ones. Having really low ranks could encourage intentional deadbeating and throwing of games to achieve the distinction as being the "Only Conscientious Objector".
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby OliverFA on Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:34 am

I like the new ranks too. :-)
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby Blitzaholic on Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:53 pm

MrBenn wrote:I've spent a bit of time working on these; what do people think?
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this is much better than what we have, I like it
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby ParadiceCity9 on Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:15 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
MrBenn wrote:I've spent a bit of time working on these; what do people think?
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this is much better than what we have, I like it


I second that.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby sensfan on Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:38 am

ParadiceCity9 wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
MrBenn wrote:I've spent a bit of time working on these; what do people think?
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this is much better than what we have, I like it


I second that.

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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby e_i_pi on Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:05 am

sensfan wrote:
ParadiceCity9 wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
MrBenn wrote:I've spent a bit of time working on these; what do people think?
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this is much better than what we have, I like it


I second that.

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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby Frop on Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:10 am

e_i_pi wrote:
sensfan wrote:
ParadiceCity9 wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
MrBenn wrote:I've spent a bit of time working on these; what do people think?
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this is much better than what we have, I like it


I second that.

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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby Scott-Land on Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:37 am

Are they gonna implement a new ranking system- or is this just another great idea shot down ?

I just noticed Blitz hit the 4000 milestone again- but yet he's still a General. Not to mention that if you have 5000 points you're still a Field Marshal. One rank after 3500- jeesh. I know this has been mentioned before- just wanted to bump it and say it again.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby happy2seeyou on Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:55 am

I thought that the feather was a banana. :?

There are plenty of different ranks for the lower scores but once you get to the higher ranks, they pretty much stay the same...
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby Scott-Land on Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:09 am

happy2seeyou wrote:I thought that the feather was a banana. :?


Not gonna say a word about your perversions H2. :o


Ohh btw- Qwert, if you're suggesting an overhaul why not get rid of the crown looking hat? Maybe have an actual Colonel insignia albeit you'd have to change the Brigadier one too.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby MrBenn on Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:19 pm

Scott-Land wrote:
happy2seeyou wrote:I thought that the feather was a banana. :?


Not gonna say a word about your perversions H2. :o


Ohh btw- Qwert, if you're suggesting an overhaul why not get rid of the crown looking hat? Maybe have an actual Colonel insignia albeit you'd have to change the Brigadier one too.

Which Colonel insignia?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel#Gallery
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby Scott-Land on Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:15 pm

MrBenn wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:
happy2seeyou wrote:I thought that the feather was a banana. :?


Not gonna say a word about your perversions H2. :o


Ohh btw- Qwert, if you're suggesting an overhaul why not get rid of the crown looking hat? Maybe have an actual Colonel insignia albeit you'd have to change the Brigadier one too.

Which Colonel insignia?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel#Gallery



I think the Eagle is the insignia for a Colonel (US)- CC has the eagle as a Brig General which is a Star. The 'hat' is a Brig in other countries... it's all a bit backwards.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby Jeff Hardy on Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:37 am

FabledIntegral wrote:
Also I think anything below 900 should be a cook. There's no distinguishable difference between 900 points and less among players.


we cant tell because we beat them all hands down but im sure cooks and cadets can tell the difference between a cook with 300 points and one with 700 points

btw, i really dislike the graphics of the suggested ranks and think the current ones look great
especially major :P
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