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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby Dexsting on Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:14 pm

Looking at the neutral placement, do you really want to have some people have some start drops that are behind a neutral? IE, Gaius Marius on the other side of the Julia Caesarias. I would think it'd be better to have the neutrals on the other side of these corners like the way Gnaeus Pompeus is. That would me switching the neutrals from their current position to thier spouse for Julia Caesaris, Octavia Minor (switch with Claudius Marcellus), Julia The Elders (switch with Marcellus), and Drusilla.

Also a thought on the III for Castor Drusus/Livilla family...that seems high to me for an easier accomplisment than all the other III's on the board, and even easier than some of the I's. I notices there isn't a II, maybe move it down to that if you don't want it all the way to a I?

Just suggestions and opinion is all. Hope it helps,

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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby whitestazn88 on Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:20 pm

dude... great map, one of my current favorites
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby lanyards on Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:21 pm

I like this map. It is really interesting,
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby cairnswk on Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:38 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:dude... great map, one of my current favorites

lanyards wrote:I like this map. It is really interesting,

Thanks guys for dropping by with nice comments. :)
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby cairnswk on Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:43 pm

Dexsting wrote:Looking at the neutral placement, do you really want to have some people have some start drops that are behind a neutral? IE, Gaius Marius on the other side of the Julia Caesarias. I would think it'd be better to have the neutrals on the other side of these corners like the way Gnaeus Pompeus is. That would me switching the neutrals from their current position to thier spouse for Julia Caesaris, Octavia Minor (switch with Claudius Marcellus), Julia The Elders (switch with Marcellus), and Drusilla.

Also a thought on the III for Castor Drusus/Livilla family...that seems high to me for an easier accomplisment than all the other III's on the board, and even easier than some of the I's. I notices there isn't a II, maybe move it down to that if you don't want it all the way to a I?

Just suggestions and opinion is all. Hope it helps,

-Dexsting


Dexsting, thanks for your comments, i'll keep note if others call for these changes also. :)
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby finchboy on Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:40 am

This a very cool map Cairns, another very cool map I should say! I love how the bonuses work, they're really cunning, the layout must have taken you forever! Much appreciated!

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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby cairnswk on Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:15 pm

finchboy wrote:This a very cool map Cairns, another very cool map I should say! I love how the bonuses work, they're really cunning, the layout must have taken you forever! Much appreciated!

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Thanks finchboy. :) Yes, the bonuses were created by simply thinking "outside the box", Glad you like them and the layout.
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby Hopscotcher on Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:00 am

I'm in love with this map, Cairns. I'd marry it, but I'm sure a jealous lover would give me poison figs. Ok that was a bad joke, but definitely Superb! I'm currently starting a tournament on it. I'm not going to spam, but figure'd you might be interested. The link is in my signature.
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby danryan on Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:26 pm

Brilliant map. Unlike anything else on cc and actually a very good 1 v 1 map due to the variety of paths and bonus combinations. I'm loving it.
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby danryan on Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:45 am

One early comment I have - if a player drops on Julia, that +1 bonus is near impregnable in the early game due to the 5 neutrals on Dictator Caesar. Seems like all the other +1 bonuses are more easily accessible (especially the ones around Aggripina). May not be an issue, but I've been playing the map 1 v 1 alot and noticed this has a large impact.
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby cairnswk on Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:23 pm

LLLUUUKKKEEE wrote:I did find it very confusing, and was reading BoB alot.
Id say I only won becuase of escalating cards, but I did like the fact that there is lots of borders, I was only playing for terminator kills, but then found out I could attack others from multiple directions, thus giving me the win.

I like what you are trying to do with the "family tree" as attack routes, but thought the bombardments were out of place.
This is a good map, in the same league as something like waterloo, where it isn't that easy to build.

Graphic wise, I found it a little hard being orange, I could't play without BoB.

But its a keeper, you just can't stop churning out great maps. - Thanks!

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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby brian fletcher on Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:51 pm

still havent won a game on it yet, but having great fun discovering all the different routes.

one thing ive noticed is that because the background is mostly white, or at best a light grey colour. when you place the curser on a tert as a way of seeing who you can attack.... well when its a neutral its hard to make out if not impossible.
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby GenuineEarlGrey on Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:36 am

Another great map.

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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby cairnswk on Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:07 am

brian fletcher wrote:still havent won a game on it yet, but having great fun discovering all the different routes.

one thing ive noticed is that because the background is mostly white, or at best a light grey colour. when you place the curser on a tert as a way of seeing who you can attack.... well when its a neutral its hard to make out if not impossible.


Brian, thanks for comment.
I too have issues seeing somethings with the yellow of the site and the white doesn't help much either. Sorry about that.

GenuineEarlGrey wrote:Another great map.

Many thanks,

E.G.

Thanks E.G. :)
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby brian fletcher on Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:23 pm

cairnswk wrote:
brian fletcher wrote:still havent won a game on it yet, but having great fun discovering all the different routes.

one thing ive noticed is that because the background is mostly white, or at best a light grey colour. when you place the curser on a tert as a way of seeing who you can attack.... well when its a neutral its hard to make out if not impossible.


Brian, thanks for comment.
I too have issues seeing somethings with the yellow of the site and the white doesn't help much either. Sorry about that.

GenuineEarlGrey wrote:Another great map.

Many thanks,

E.G.

Thanks E.G. :)


its not a problem to me because when i play with someone who hasnt played the map before i will have a great advantage, and they will whinge like an aussie who has just lost the ashes.... bring it on....
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby cairnswk on Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:48 pm

brian fletcher wrote:...
its not a problem to me because when i play with someone who hasnt played the map before i will have a great advantage, and they will whinge like an aussie who has just lost the ashes.... bring it on....

Lol, wrong person to mention cricket to i'm afraid. i couldn't care less about the ashes or who wins them.
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby brian fletcher on Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:51 pm

sorry cairns.. that wasnt a dig at you... didnt even realise you was an aussie let alone that you`d know that i was refering to cricket.... i actually mentioned the ashes so the colonials would ask.... ashes? WTF are the ashes? lol
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby cairnswk on Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:03 pm

brian fletcher wrote:sorry cairns.. that wasnt a dig at you... didnt even realise you was an aussie let alone that you`d know that i was refering to cricket.... i actually mentioned the ashes so the colonials would ask.... ashes? WTF are the ashes? lol
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby Hopscotcher on Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:24 am

Ashes? WTF are ashes?
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby cairnswk on Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:50 am

Hopscotcher wrote:Ashes? WTF are ashes?

i love it when people want to learn :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ashes
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby Dexsting on Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:41 am

You should make an Ashes map :)
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby brian fletcher on Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:44 am

i was only thinking the same thing myself the other day...
would only be a small map though.
11 fielders
2 batsmen..... even if you included the 9 on the balcony (thats an idea)
11 batsmen
2 umpires
3rd umpire
match referee
scorer
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whats your ideas cairnes. is it possible? suppose it would be a touch elitist as its only really commonwealth chaps who would play it, or would have any idea what the game was about... 5 days play and only a draw? HUH!!!
i know this is the wrong thread and i appologise profusely. but imagine the field placing
silly mid on-off
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go on mate... lets see what you and your magic fingers can conjour up
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby the.killing.44 on Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:07 pm

Not the place for new map discussion guys ;)

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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby cairnswk on Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:58 pm

Dexsting wrote:You should make an Ashes map :)

brian fletcher wrote:...go on mate... lets see what you and your magic fingers can conjour up

Ref: Silly Mid-On

the.killing.44 wrote:Not the place for new map discussion guys ;)
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Re-directed :)
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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

Postby Jackets55 on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:18 pm

In my experience (limited as it may be), this a piss pour map. Now, I know someone worked hard developing it, but how about at least identifying the bonus amounts somewhere. What a crap shoot. Not worth the effort to play since it comes down to the drop.
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