Moderator: Cartographers
thenobodies80 wrote:Much better.
Sorry to play ball buster, but i think you should remove the final dot that touch savannah and the two final dots, one for each side, in the Long Island - Brooklyn Heights connection.
But it's just nitpicking.
More important, there's a way to make the Long Island/Fort Lee/New York borders more clear? Maybe make the point in which long island touch new york bigger or move it a bit to north.... there's too much white in that point imo.
Said that, i think that the final forge is around the corner...I can see a red Fokker DR.1 on the horizon
RedBaron0 wrote:At least give what nobodies suggested a try, a simple scoutch of Long Island up and to the right will prevent any doubt whether or not Long Island and Fort Lee connect or not. Big map is fine for sure, small map could use that scoutch. And to save room after the move with the text getting too close to the ship you can change "Long Island" to "Long Is." Don't forget the circles you have on the ships and Indian territories is centered graphically on the 888, not the 88. The circles currently there are likely too big.
Simple fixes easily completed under the scrutiny of the Final Forge.
RedBaron0 wrote:At least give what nobodies suggested a try, a simple scoutch of Long Island up and to the right will prevent any doubt whether or not Long Island and Fort Lee connect or not. Big map is fine for sure, small map could use that scoutch. And to save room after the move with the text getting too close to the ship you can change "Long Island" to "Long Is." Don't forget the circles you have on the ships and Indian territories is centered graphically on the 888, not the 88. The circles currently there are likely too big.
Simple fixes easily completed under the scrutiny of the Final Forge.
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porkenbeans wrote:I have illustrated a couple of suggestions.
Nice map. Yes, I would like to see this project done. I hope that this one gains the needed support to make it to quench.
I like the ships, but I think they need a little work. At the moment they look like a black and white image, overlaid on top of a color drawing. Also the white connecting dots stand out too much. You can color them blue, to make them less pronounced. A dark green for the black dots would help them in this respect as well.
porkenbeans wrote:I wish that this Foundry structure was more clear. If I could make this mistake, I am sure a newcomer will as well.
porkenbeans wrote:Did I do something wrong ?
I clicked on the "GRAPHICS WORKSHOP", and I thought I was posting correctly.
I guess it's "my bad".
I wish that this Foundry structure was more clear. If I could make this mistake, I am sure a newcomer will as well.
porkenbeans wrote:Did I do something wrong ?
I clicked on the "GRAPHICS WORKSHOP", and I thought I was posting correctly.
I guess it's "my bad".
I wish that this Foundry structure was more clear. If I could make this mistake, I am sure a newcomer will as well.
Thanx guys, Sorry for my ignorance.RedBaron0 wrote:The shadow is there to denote the move. You can just see where the map was and when you click on it you goto the new location. The shadow will disappear after a couple of days.
Industrial Helix wrote:@Nobodies.... thanks again for the XML help. What do you mean by put an override over the bonuses of 0? I think I get what you're aiming for but my experience with XML is probably what's hindering my understanding.
<override>Georgia</override>
<override>South Carolina</override>
<override>North Carolina</override>
<override>Virginia</override>
<override>Maryland</override>
<override>Delaware</override>
<override>Pennsylvania</override>
<override>New Jersey</override>
<override>New York</override>
<override>Connecticut</override>
<override>Rhode Island</override>
<override>Massachusetts</override>
<override>New Hampshire</override>
Meatcat wrote:Think it could be better. Since this a a war game it should be titled "1776 American Revolution", with bold colors used in the map design, red, navy blue, gold, dark green. Troops included would be American, British, French, German Hessians, and indians.
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