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Denise wrote:The amount of blame that is justified depends on Blitz's intent, and nobody can know what that was for sure. I know that some of you think you do, but that is only an opinion. Perhaps it was a thoughtless mistake.
Denise wrote:As attacks become more vicious, it looks more and more to me like some players who hold a terrible grudge for past disagreements taking fortuitous revenge on poor Blitzy. Talk about kicking someone when they are down. And way to encourage Eddie.
Woodruff wrote:Denise wrote:As attacks become more vicious, it looks more and more to me like some players who hold a terrible grudge for past disagreements taking fortuitous revenge on poor Blitzy. Talk about kicking someone when they are down. And way to encourage Eddie.
I have never had any disagreement with Blitz. And my distaste for Eddie2 is in the records here well-versed. You are, quite simply, wrong.
Fruitcake wrote:Your opening sentence does no justice to the cause of the accused. For what you are saying is that if he did not have intent then he was too stupid to see what the ramifications of his actions were. Logic dictates that to carry your argument one stage further means we have a complete idiot as a conqueror. Either he knew or he didn't, either way it does not reflect well upon him.
Fruitcake wrote:You use the word 'thoughtless' in a somewhat offhand way. Are you saying that this man who holds himself out to be a great player on a game that actually requires a skill of risk management to ascertain one's rank is without this skill? This is a man who has spent years setting himself on a platform of probity and success at playing, be that through points, medals or in the forums.
Fruitcake wrote:You then continue with the argument that you see no reason for scheming....well neither do we. It was bound to be found out, after all a conqueror is generally under scrutiny anyway. In the absence of a truly believable statement to the contrary we can only assume this 'scheming' was the motivating factor.
Fruitcake wrote:Your words 'He did offer an apology of sorts' speak volumes. If even you, a supporter, cannot bring themselves to say an outright 'apology' what chance is there the rest of us are going to take any notice?
Fruitcake wrote:Finally you go on to talk about attacks being more vicious. The attacks are simply an exploration of the truth. Once again, in the absence of any other real statement with constructed reasoning as to the act taken this subject will not go away. It may look to you as if those with a grudge are taking revenge, but this does not bear close scrutiny. Revenge can only be delivered if the chance presents itself. Sitsaholic had plenty of opportunity to put this to bed quickly right at the start. He need only have come forward, held his hands up and then those who wanted to take revenge would have had the wind taken out of their sails in double quick time. This he did not do. We received lightweight posts from a couple of his clan, a 3rd party apology care of Robinette, and finally the odd supporter coming out with further lightweight reasons and in your case, caveats, to their defending of him.
SC MAN wrote:To begin with, outside of the parties involved, no one knows what really happened!...So, I can only reference my expierence over the past 3 years when I was a member of Blitz's team or played against him. The bottom line with me is that Blitz has always participated in CC with the utmost integrity and I accept his word. I never understand why some people are quick to attack the guy at the top without the facts and go with their gut and want to hang him!....I seriously doubt that there would be this much made of this ordeal if 'Blitz' wasn't one of the CC players involved. I try to be objective and while all are entitled to their opinions, I stand by Blitz and his earned integrity and feel that a 'Warning' is the worst case punishment that his actions should result in.....
king achilles wrote:Eddie2, that last sentence I made was meant as a question. I mistakenly placed a period instead of a question mark. Next time, before stirring the crowd, try to confirm this kind of things first rather than be your usual annoying self.
owenshooter wrote:i am still confused by the admins saying they could only punish according the letter of the written CC laws and a warning was given because it was a first infraction.
king achilles wrote:If you do not agree with the verdict, go to your local police station and file a complaint.
owenshooter wrote:i am still confused by the admins saying they could only punish according the letter of the written CC laws and a warning was given because it was a first infraction. as a member that received a 6 month ban for an unwritten rule, which remains unwritten and which has never been enforced again (i was warned by a member of the jr. mint mod squad, but clapper dismissed that as not official), i know that CC can and does go off script in order to punish users. again, i find it amusing that infractions in the forum are dealt with more harshly than infractions/cheating in the game aspect of this site. when something affects the scoreboard, it affects us all. when something is done in the forums, it shakes up less than a whopping 3% of CC users who actually visit the forums. CC has stepped outside of the box in order to punish other members on the site when they deemed they had crossed a line that had never been seen or imagined before. and i am just really taken back by their silence on this matter. i just want a real explanation and for CC to plug a massive loophole that has been exposed in the points/rules of the game...-the black jesus
Metsfanmax wrote:I'm reluctant to play this card, but guys, this is the internet. Y'all need to calm down. There's no reason to quit Conquer Club because you disagree with how a cheater was punished. Frankly, what happens to Blitz should have no bearing on whether you enjoy playing your games.
QoH wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:I'm reluctant to play this card, but guys, this is the internet. Y'all need to calm down. There's no reason to quit Conquer Club because you disagree with how a cheater was punished. Frankly, what happens to Blitz should have no bearing on whether you enjoy playing your games.
I haven't been reading every page, but I think what they are angry about is the inconsistency with the way the case has been handled by the Admin and Mods... And they don't want it to happen just because Blitz is the Conqueror. They want him treated the same as a cook would be
Am I on the right track?
QoH wrote:However, if something like this happens again to a prominent member of the site, and the same treatment occurs, THEN people have the right to bitch, and shouldn't stop, because frankly, it would be ridiculous to see this happen again.
QoH wrote:While I agree that the punishment was too light, I think that people should stop bitching; what's done is done, and we can't change it now.
However, if something like this happens again to a prominent member of the site, and the same treatment occurs, THEN people have the right to bitch, and shouldn't stop, because frankly, it would be ridiculous to see this happen again.
I have been conqueror for almost a year now, and several other times in the past, so, I don't need to cheat, in fact it goes against my own values as I have reported many cheats to the mods in private pm's over the years.
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