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natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
john9blue wrote:the scientific classification of animals is also a human construct. that doesn't mean it doesn't exist or make it less valid as a scientific field of study.
radiojake wrote:john9blue wrote:the scientific classification of animals is also a human construct. that doesn't mean it doesn't exist or make it less valid as a scientific field of study.
It has all to do with 'who' makes the classifications, and for what purpose. Animals do not name themselves - We project a name onto them. In many circumstances, the classifications of animals has stemmed from our interpretation of which animals are to be exploited, eaten, or left alone, all of which is based on a heirarchy created to fulfil the needs and wants of the dominant hegemon.
In many ways, different 'races' did not name themselves, they had the classification projected onto them, also based on the hierarchy created to fulfil the needs and wants of the dominant hegemon.
Yes, the two disciplines are similar - Just because I am pointing out the fallacy in the classification of human 'races' does not mean that there is not inherent domination involved in our classification of other living things (It's just that this domination is harder to be seen and heard, because we are no longer equipped with those sensory abilities)
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
john9blue wrote: are you saying that racial categories have no basis in reality, and are entirely abstract?
john9blue wrote:radiojake wrote:john9blue wrote:the scientific classification of animals is also a human construct. that doesn't mean it doesn't exist or make it less valid as a scientific field of study.
It has all to do with 'who' makes the classifications, and for what purpose. Animals do not name themselves - We project a name onto them. In many circumstances, the classifications of animals has stemmed from our interpretation of which animals are to be exploited, eaten, or left alone, all of which is based on a heirarchy created to fulfil the needs and wants of the dominant hegemon.
In many ways, different 'races' did not name themselves, they had the classification projected onto them, also based on the hierarchy created to fulfil the needs and wants of the dominant hegemon.
Yes, the two disciplines are similar - Just because I am pointing out the fallacy in the classification of human 'races' does not mean that there is not inherent domination involved in our classification of other living things (It's just that this domination is harder to be seen and heard, because we are no longer equipped with those sensory abilities)
why does the identity of the person making the classification, and their purpose, matter?
john9blue wrote:maybe i'm misunderstanding your point... are you saying that racial categories have no basis in reality, and are entirely abstract?
Woodruff wrote:Because therein belies the motives, objectivity and capabilities.
Woodruff wrote:john9blue wrote:maybe i'm misunderstanding your point... are you saying that racial categories have no basis in reality, and are entirely abstract?
Precisely correct.
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
john9blue wrote:Woodruff wrote:Because therein belies the motives, objectivity and capabilities.
biology doesn't give a crap about any of that.
john9blue wrote:Woodruff wrote:john9blue wrote:maybe i'm misunderstanding your point... are you saying that racial categories have no basis in reality, and are entirely abstract?
Precisely correct.
then how do you explain cultural and biological differences between people with genetic roots in different areas of the world? how is that not "real"?
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
john9blue wrote:instead of getting sucked into another one of woody's pointless battles over trivial definitions, i'll leave this here so we're all on the same page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_%28cl ... _humans%29
see if you can't find cultural and biological aspects of race in the first paragraph.
Woodruff wrote:john9blue wrote:instead of getting sucked into another one of woody's pointless battles over trivial definitions, i'll leave this here so we're all on the same page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_%28cl ... _humans%29
see if you can't find cultural and biological aspects of race in the first paragraph.
This has nothing to do with "trivial definitions", but I wouldn't expect you to recognize that.
How about this statement: "Among humans, race has no taxonomic significance; all people belong to the same hominid subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens."
And this: "As people define and put about different conceptions of race, they actively create contrasting social realities through which racial categorization is achieved in varied ways.[15] In this sense, races are said to be social constructs.[16][17] These constructs can develop within various legal,[15][18] economic,[18] and sociopolitical[19][20] contexts"
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
Phatscotty wrote:...
Bringing up racism on false pretense is complete degeneration of the issues and shut down to all thinking.
Nobunaga wrote:Phatscotty wrote:...
Bringing up racism on false pretense is complete degeneration of the issues and shut down to all thinking.
... And, you failed to mention, a liberal's last line of defense when her facts don't hold up.
...
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
Nobunaga wrote:Phatscotty wrote:...
Bringing up racism on false pretense is complete degeneration of the issues and shut down to all thinking.
... And, you failed to mention, a liberal's last line of defense when her facts don't hold up.
...
PLAYER57832 wrote:I hope we all become liberal drones.
When Ebony asked actor Samuel L. Jackson where he stood, his answer raised some eyebrows. Obama's "message didn't mean sh*t to me," Jackson said, according to the New York Post. "I just hoped he would do some of what he said he was gonna do." Implying that Obama has not yet been able to behave like a "scary" "n*gga," Jackson said he hopes Obama will be more "scary" in his second term, "cuz he ain't gotta worry about getting re-elected." "I voted for Barack because he was black," Jackson said.
Samuel L. Jackson believes Obama's character, policies and agenda are irrelevant. Jackson said he voted for Obama because he is black.
“I voted for Barack because he was black. ’Cuz that’s why other folks vote for other people — because they look like them,”
Lootifer wrote:Ahahahaha.“I voted for Barack because he was black. ’Cuz that’s why other folks vote for other people — because they look like them,”
Well done: You and your "american thinker" blogger missed the point of his statement and immediately jumped on the sound bite.
The blogger being an american thinker is almost too ironic
Lootifer wrote:Ahahahaha.“I voted for Barack because he was black. ’Cuz that’s why other folks vote for other people — because they look like them,”
Well done: You and your "american thinker" blogger missed the point of his statement and immediately jumped on the sound bite.
The blogger being an american thinker is almost too ironic
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Lootifer wrote:Samual is an idiot, but it doesnt make him racist for supporting a black man (your premise).
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
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