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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby freakns on Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:12 pm

chemefreak wrote:Can you explain how Otpisani is so highly ranked?

yes, we have big dicks...

other that that, we had 3 clan wars so far, 2 of those we won by huge margin. i guess our "real strength" will be shown against TOFU( and CoF is already feeling it... deeply), but considering we won all our clan wars, we are already in CL trophy finals, and we made it to third faze of CL(in group 3 though, but thats mostly because we were in group with one team less and had two... unsettling losses, 7-5 both of those), you cant say we are ranked outrageously high... im sure we will become regular top10 clan, and im not the only one saying this. many CC regulars have seen us as future top10
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby pmchugh on Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:17 pm

freakns wrote: im sure we will become regular top10 clan, and im not the only one saying this. many CC regulars have seen us as future top10


I was going to say this myself, I do not think OTP are ranked too far away from where they actually are in terms of strength. I think they might have 42 points too many tho ;)
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby chemefreak on Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:14 pm

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chemefreak wrote:Can you explain how Otpisani is so highly ranked?

yes, we have big dicks...

other that that, we had 3 clan wars so far, 2 of those we won by huge margin. i guess our "real strength" will be shown against TOFU( and CoF is already feeling it... deeply), but considering we won all our clan wars, we are already in CL trophy finals, and we made it to third faze of CL(in group 3 though, but thats mostly because we were in group with one team less and had two... unsettling losses, 7-5 both of those), you cant say we are ranked outrageously high... im sure we will become regular top10 clan, and im not the only one saying this. many CC regulars have seen us as future top10


I never said this. Otpisani may be a Top 10 clan. All I am saying is that based on who the victories have been over, the algorithm should not be placing your clan so high. I'm looking solely at the mathematics of the situation, not opinions. If the formula and data are working correctly, and this is the accurate result, I am completely fine with it.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby IcePack on Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:44 pm

viewtopic.php?f=442&t=168084&start=0
viewtopic.php?f=442&t=161516&start=0

Anyone want to check with me, are these two included in the rankings already?
I'm looking a few times while double checking some of these scores and dates but its a lot of info to search.

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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby josko.ri on Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:31 am

Thanks Ice fopr running this, an thanks Gunn for running this is pas months. If you have extra time and enthusiasm, you may add graphs of history rankings for top 8 clans, that is one thing I very liked when FD made rankings.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby niMic on Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:20 am

Any graphical representation of information would be a great addition. Always good fun.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:45 am

I like pie charts....

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Anyway Ice....great you are so enthusiastic about doing it. Stats are fun when you're into them. Updates as frequently as you're able is the best scenario. No pressure on you to meet a deadline, but easy enough for you to do an update when you are in the mood. I know when I do my accounts the job becomes a lot harder the longer I put it off (and of course the info just keeps mounting up).
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby IcePack on Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:52 am

1) Graphs I'm pretty sure I can do
2) I'll update 1st and 15th, see how that goes and adjust from there to more / less frequent
3) I'm checking all info up to this point to ensure accuracy. I won't do my first update until 8-1 as CL4 info will really eat up a lot of time...

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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby lynch5762 on Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:05 am

IcePack wrote:1) Graphs I'm pretty sure I can do
2) I'll update 1st and 15th, see how that goes and adjust from there to more / less frequent
3) I'm checking all info up to this point to ensure accuracy. I won't do my first update until 8-1 as CL4 info will really eat up a lot of time...

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No pressure... great job Ice, and Gunn, and FD and whomever else I missed because I know that a lot of people have helped in collecting data for this.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby deantursx on Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:41 am

hey so I was doing my DTX rankings (using your data), and I noticed that Igni Ferroque is listed as both IGNI and IF...just thought I'd give you a heads up.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby IcePack on Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:54 am

deantursx wrote:hey so I was doing my DTX rankings (using your data), and I noticed that Igni Ferroque is listed as both IGNI and IF...just thought I'd give you a heads up.


Thanks dean, I noticed this a few days ago when I was checking some other things as well. :)
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby chapcrap on Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:28 pm

chemefreak wrote:
freakns wrote:
chemefreak wrote:Can you explain how Otpisani is so highly ranked?

yes, we have big dicks...

other that that, we had 3 clan wars so far, 2 of those we won by huge margin. i guess our "real strength" will be shown against TOFU( and CoF is already feeling it... deeply), but considering we won all our clan wars, we are already in CL trophy finals, and we made it to third faze of CL(in group 3 though, but thats mostly because we were in group with one team less and had two... unsettling losses, 7-5 both of those), you cant say we are ranked outrageously high... im sure we will become regular top10 clan, and im not the only one saying this. many CC regulars have seen us as future top10


I never said this. Otpisani may be a Top 10 clan. All I am saying is that based on who the victories have been over, the algorithm should not be placing your clan so high. I'm looking solely at the mathematics of the situation, not opinions. If the formula and data are working correctly, and this is the accurate result, I am completely fine with it.

I feel like I might disagree here.

It's like saying Boise State should never be a top ranked College Football team because of the conference they are in and the fact that they probably don't have as hard of a schedule as, say, Alabama.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby niMic on Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:46 pm

He's actually, literally, just asking how the math looks that puts Otpisani that high. He's not saying it's not deserved. He's not saying it's wrong. He's just asking about the maths.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby Dako on Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:53 pm

5 days till the new update :p.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby IcePack on Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:09 pm

Dako wrote:5 days till the new update :p.


Indeed! I might even post it Monday night, Tuesday's in not online much :)
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby chemefreak on Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:18 pm

I have updated the master war results file through this moment. Thanks.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby IcePack on Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:52 am

Thanks. This is done, I just have to get it "postable". I've been hammered w OT this week and gettig wisdom teeth out tomorrow. Expect me to post it later in the day after anesthesia wears off etc.

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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby Fewnix on Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:34 am

IcePack wrote:Thanks. This is done, I just have to get it "postable". I've been hammered w OT this week and gettig wisdom teeth out tomorrow. Expect me to post it later in the day after anesthesia wears off etc.

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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]

Postby IcePack on Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:40 am

Thanks mate. I'm finally kinda wearing off the meds. I know I said tonight, I lied.
I'll get on it tomorrow morning after I get some sleep. Thanks for being patient, a bit unexpected RL stuff.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 08-01-12]

Postby IcePack on Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:15 pm

Updated, though there are still some CL results pending that weren't included.
I'm still working on correcting some CL dates (its a huge task) so this is left the way it was with new wars added in.
Also, corrected the IGNI / IF discrepancy. They are listed as "new" because they are back on the sheet.
I also attempted to correct the arrows for increases and decreases, it may not be perfect but should be pretty close.
Also included the graph people requested, I believe it will only graph #1-8 (though I suppose I could do seperate graphs for each group of 8....that would end up being a bunch of graphs)

Let me know if you see any required corrections.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 08-01-12]

Postby Swimmerdude99 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:28 am

Thanks Icepack :)
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 08-01-12]

Postby IcePack on Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:57 am

swimmerdude99 wrote:Thanks Icepack :)


No problem. Updated with a large and small scale graph for everyone's viewing pleasure.
I know the large one got interrupted on my screen so offering small as well. If people prefer one size over the other ill just offer the one.

Any other comments or feedback just let me know.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 08-01-12]

Postby freakns on Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:35 pm

wth?! we still arent no1? this list sucks!



j/k, wonderful job mate
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 08-01-12]

Postby IcePack on Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:11 pm

freakns wrote:wth?! we still arent no1? this list sucks!

j/k, wonderful job mate


Thanks! Sorry, the list doesn't include a factor for coolness or ego size ;)
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 08-01-12]

Postby Crazyirishman on Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:48 pm

I love how we jumped up 6 spots for having our loss to TSM a year ago off the books.
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