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_sabotage_ wrote:It is a humble opinion you are just too arrogant to know it.
_sabotage_ wrote:So what do atheist believe? You just die? So why even live?
_sabotage_ wrote:But you will disappear into nothingness and it won't matter if you ever lived once dead.
_sabotage_ wrote:Someone who believes that the world is all interconnected and that no part of the universe is outside this connection and calls this connection our creator also believes that the flesh will become part of the cycle of earth, but the soul will become part of the universe. As such, it doesn't matter if we die, it matters what we became during our life. If your every waking hour was determined by money, getting one over on the other guy, ie game theory, and having a hot wife so your friends all want to f*ck her, then in death, your soul is quite lost, it will have a terrible time adjusting and will probably suck for you.
On the other hand if you spend your life seeking freedom, equality and harmony with the world around you, you will be quite compatible in your new state.
Someone who believes this looks forward to death bc they will finally achieve the things they have been striving for. As to singing halleluiah all day and praise your maker, i dont agree with organized religion and the souls who expect to find a man up there with actual keys bc they said sorry for the crap they did and now want a nice house to chill for eternity will be in for a surprise. Remember god is in each of us and all of us regardless if we want him there or not, treating each other well means treating god well, if you want to sing hallelujah, at least direct it at plants bc i've heard they enjoy singing.
_sabotage_ wrote:You have reshaped my words to your own means. I have no fear of death, death will bring me harmony, which the limitations of the body do not provide for.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
_sabotage_ wrote:You have reshaped my words to your own means. I have no fear of death, death will bring me harmony, which the limitations of the body do not provide for.
Neoteny wrote:Well, I'm convinced.
Frigidus wrote:Neoteny wrote:Well, I'm convinced.
Yes, why didn't I think of this before?
Haggis_McMutton wrote:_sabotage_ wrote:You have reshaped my words to your own means. I have no fear of death, death will bring me harmony, which the limitations of the body do not provide for.
Of course. Sorry, should have said "non-existence" instead of "death" (they're synonymous to me, you see)
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Frigidus wrote:Neoteny wrote:Well, I'm convinced.
Yes, why didn't I think of this before?
Essentially the impetus behind every religion, ever. "There's life after death because I want it to be so."
-TG
aage wrote:TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Frigidus wrote:Neoteny wrote:Well, I'm convinced.
Yes, why didn't I think of this before?
Essentially the impetus behind every religion, ever. "There's life after death because I want it to be so."
-TG
Isn't that really wat religion, and everything non-material, really is? I mean, as long as everyone wants the same thing to be true, that thing would come true if one were to write down some rules about it, and everyone would eventually be happy. I want to be a happy person. If I went around believing I wasn't, that would be counterproductive to my goals.
This doesn't work for believing to be rich, get laid or get a good job, but neither does religion offer solid advice on this. It isn't meant to, it's meant to tell you how to live. That's exactly why your "There's life after death because I want it to be so"-quote is spot-on accurate, but not an actual criticism.
aage wrote:TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Frigidus wrote:Neoteny wrote:Well, I'm convinced.
Yes, why didn't I think of this before?
Essentially the impetus behind every religion, ever. "There's life after death because I want it to be so."
-TG
Isn't that really wat religion, and everything non-material, really is? I mean, as long as everyone wants the same thing to be true, that thing would come true if one were to write down some rules about it, and everyone would eventually be happy. I want to be a happy person. If I went around believing I wasn't, that would be counterproductive to my goals.
This doesn't work for believing to be rich, get laid or get a good job, but neither does religion offer solid advice on this. It isn't meant to, it's meant to tell you how to live. That's exactly why your "There's life after death because I want it to be so"-quote is spot-on accurate, but not an actual criticism.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:aage wrote:TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Frigidus wrote:Neoteny wrote:Well, I'm convinced.
Yes, why didn't I think of this before?
Essentially the impetus behind every religion, ever. "There's life after death because I want it to be so."
-TG
Isn't that really wat religion, and everything non-material, really is? I mean, as long as everyone wants the same thing to be true, that thing would come true if one were to write down some rules about it, and everyone would eventually be happy. I want to be a happy person. If I went around believing I wasn't, that would be counterproductive to my goals.
This doesn't work for believing to be rich, get laid or get a good job, but neither does religion offer solid advice on this. It isn't meant to, it's meant to tell you how to live. That's exactly why your "There's life after death because I want it to be so"-quote is spot-on accurate, but not an actual criticism.
Wasn't necessarily a criticism, just as an observation of how these silly ideas are forever perpetuated despite evidence to the contrary. Really it was just an agreement with Frigidus and Neo in regards to sabotage's reasoning for a belief in some supernatural existence after death.
-TG
AndyDufresne wrote:Testimonies sound a lot like eye witness accounts, which have been proven to be the least reliable sources when it comes to real evidence, though they are still weighted with disproportionate value in the criminal justice system.
--Andy
premio53 wrote:aage wrote:TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Frigidus wrote:Neoteny wrote:Well, I'm convinced.
Yes, why didn't I think of this before?
Essentially the impetus behind every religion, ever. "There's life after death because I want it to be so."
-TG
Isn't that really wat religion, and everything non-material, really is? I mean, as long as everyone wants the same thing to be true, that thing would come true if one were to write down some rules about it, and everyone would eventually be happy. I want to be a happy person. If I went around believing I wasn't, that would be counterproductive to my goals.
This doesn't work for believing to be rich, get laid or get a good job, but neither does religion offer solid advice on this. It isn't meant to, it's meant to tell you how to live. That's exactly why your "There's life after death because I want it to be so"-quote is spot-on accurate, but not an actual criticism.
And I would say many believe "There is no life after death because I don't want it to be so."
The reason many don't wish it to be so is because if there is life after death and indeed a Creator then we will answer to our Creator after death. My statement is just as valid as yours. I remind you of what a young Albert Einstein at 34 years of age once said.
"I have firmly resolved to bite the dust, when my time comes, with the minimum of medical assistance, and up to then I will sin to my wicked heart's desire."
premio53 wrote:AndyDufresne wrote:Testimonies sound a lot like eye witness accounts, which have been proven to be the least reliable sources when it comes to real evidence, though they are still weighted with disproportionate value in the criminal justice system.
--Andy
They are more reliable and observable than belief in spontaneous generation or the fairy tale that the universe evolved from nothing.
premio53 wrote:AndyDufresne wrote:Testimonies sound a lot like eye witness accounts, which have been proven to be the least reliable sources when it comes to real evidence, though they are still weighted with disproportionate value in the criminal justice system.
--Andy
They are more reliable and observable than belief in spontaneous generation or the fairy tale that the universe evolved from nothing.
jonesthecurl wrote:Knowing what is going on around you while under anaesthetic is not the same as the afterlife.
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