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Dukasaur wrote:Luckily I don't watch a lot of TV. I watched exactly one episode of The Apprentice, realized it was bogus, never watched it again. I neither know nor care to know much more about Omarosa than what I see in the daily headlines. I think this whole spat is pretty funny.
However, speaking of The Apprentice, it's interesting to hear what Penn Jillette learned from being on The Apprentice:
HitRed wrote:I find her confusing. She got fame, fortune, and a White House gig from Trump. She was also HUGE supporter during the campaign and at the WH. Even NPR (anti Trump radio) thinks most of her claims are bogus. Beyond the money angle who is she scoring points with? Not NPR, not Trump, not future historians that will likely dismiss her book.
Symmetry wrote:HitRed wrote:I find her confusing. She got fame, fortune, and a White House gig from Trump. She was also HUGE supporter during the campaign and at the WH. Even NPR (anti Trump radio) thinks most of her claims are bogus. Beyond the money angle who is she scoring points with? Not NPR, not Trump, not future historians that will likely dismiss her book.
She's an apprentice of Trump, HR. He trained her, and now she's a master at it too.
HitRed wrote:Symmetry wrote:HitRed wrote:I find her confusing. She got fame, fortune, and a White House gig from Trump. She was also HUGE supporter during the campaign and at the WH. Even NPR (anti Trump radio) thinks most of her claims are bogus. Beyond the money angle who is she scoring points with? Not NPR, not Trump, not future historians that will likely dismiss her book.
She's an apprentice of Trump, HR. He trained her, and now she's a master at it too.
It just seems short sided to me (beyond the money). She's NOT the new media darling, Trump is merciless against his detractors. Where did she win? From what I here historians won't be referencing this.
Symmetry wrote:HitRed wrote:Symmetry wrote:HitRed wrote:I find her confusing. She got fame, fortune, and a White House gig from Trump. She was also HUGE supporter during the campaign and at the WH. Even NPR (anti Trump radio) thinks most of her claims are bogus. Beyond the money angle who is she scoring points with? Not NPR, not Trump, not future historians that will likely dismiss her book.
She's an apprentice of Trump, HR. He trained her, and now she's a master at it too.
It just seems short sided to me (beyond the money). She's NOT the new media darling, Trump is merciless against his detractors. Where did she win? From what I here historians won't be referencing this.
Hmm, you're a bit hung up on the idea of what kind of information future historians may or may not use, so I'll address that first. A decent historian will assess all relevant sources, but will take into account their provenance, and the context in which they were written.
Sean Spicer, for example, has written a book recently too, and although it is pretty silly ([Donald Trump is] "a unicorn, riding a unicorn over a rainbow", being a prime example), the revelation that he is not legally allowed to criticise Trump or Pence, or their families via an NDA will be taken into account.
Neither Manigault nor Spicer can be considered reliable, but that doesn't mean their books can be dismissed. Historians are trained to assess bias.
Finally, we have literally no way of knowing at this point how future historians will look back on Manigault's book. Some of the stuff that was initially dismissed as bogus has evidence now- certainly her recording of Kelly suggests as much. We don't know how much of her account will be supported by other sources.
As is, it's certainly a document I'd use to write a history of the Trump era.
2dimes wrote:Red, have you read Omarosa's book?
You mention a ghost writer. What makes you think that? I'm pretty curious now, I can't imagine buying it but I might have to seek out a copy at the library.
tfh182 wrote:Really not all that hard to figure out or understand. Both Trump and Omarosa are always thinking about what is best for them. And only Them. Trump kept her around because she was good for the rating when
she was on the show and she like Trump is always calculating .. how can I make this about Me and good for Me.
HitRed wrote:I find her confusing. She got fame, fortune, and a White House gig from Trump. She was also HUGE supporter during the campaign and at the WH. Even NPR (anti Trump radio) thinks most of her claims are bogus. Beyond the money angle who is she scoring points with? Not NPR, not Trump, not future historians that will likely dismiss her book.
karel wrote:i think she was a libtard ploy,stayed long enough to make her self look good,now she on all libtard shows spewing her shit,it was all a joke from the start,glad that stank got fired
mookiemcgee wrote:karel wrote:i think she was a libtard ploy,stayed long enough to make her self look good,now she on all libtard shows spewing her shit,it was all a joke from the start,glad that stank got fired
Which libtard gave her a job in the white house again?
karel wrote:mookiemcgee wrote:karel wrote:i think she was a libtard ploy,stayed long enough to make her self look good,now she on all libtard shows spewing her shit,it was all a joke from the start,glad that stank got fired
Which libtard gave her a job in the white house again?
duh never said a lame libtard gave her a job,i said she was prolly working for them to try and get dirt on the greatest prez ever
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