Conquer Club

Dancing Mustard wrote:

DaGip wrote:In regards to the Dubl Decker traditional Buses, perhaps Boris is going to have them all overhauled to meet specific environmental standards?

They'd still take less passengers than their bendy cousins, and thus make rush-hour even more annoying and time consuming than it presently is. Unless of course Boris is going to hike up our taxes to pay for even more bus-drives and even more replacement vehicles to put on a greater number of vehicles.

Either way, we lose.

Bendy-Buses are what Jesus would want, and as such Boris is like a mini version of Hitler. Think about it, it makes perfect logical sense.

Raminhiscock wrote:Why don't you just get a car mustard?

Raminhiscock wrote:
How would you describe the liberal description that you gave him?

Dancing Mustard wrote: Private Tour-Bus companies currently use double-decker buses in precisely the parts of the city that you describe. We're talking about the actual mass-transit publicly run system of buses, which needs to be kept as modern and efficient as possible to cope with the huge numbers of people traveling to and from work in the capital each day. Suggesting bringing back Double-Deckers for that is a lot like suggesting bringing back the horse-and-trap or the Rickshaw, very quaint but utterly impractical.

suggs wrote:Who knows whether he will be any good. But I'm surprised at the naivete of some of these posts. Whether you agree with his policies or not (lets face, they are pure and simple Conservatism dressed up in a trendy way) Boris is a very intelligent man.
Sorry Jim and Mustard, but if you think he i s a clown/ buffoon, you are just buying into his public persona-i suspect to end up as the editor of a high profile magazine, write some decent history books, and even going to Oxford in the first place, requires considerable brain power.

Having said all that, his policies are shit. But buffoon-no way.
Good for democracy i think-three terms is too many for any politician, ask the Yanks. Should hopefully provide the dialetical stimulus to create some new Labour policies. I loved Ken, but the guy was getting stale.
Plus, Boris has a hair cut a bit like mine, and thats what counts

Dancing Mustard wrote:

DaGip wrote:In regards to the Dubl Decker traditional Buses, perhaps Boris is going to have them all overhauled to meet specific environmental standards?

They'd still take less passengers than their bendy cousins, and thus make rush-hour even more annoying and time consuming than it presently is. Unless of course Boris is going to hike up our taxes to pay for even more bus-drives and even more replacement vehicles to put on a greater number of vehicles.

Either way, we lose.

Bendy-Buses are what Jesus would want, and as such Boris is like a mini version of Hitler. Think about it, it makes perfect logical sense.

suggs wrote:Sorry Jim and Mustard, but if you think he i s a clown/ buffoon, you are just buying into his public persona-

Dancing Mustard wrote:

suggs wrote:Sorry Jim and Mustard, but if you think he i s a clown/ buffoon, you are just buying into his public persona-

Oh no, I don't think he's stupid at all... it's all a carefully cultivated stage-act designed to appeal to otherwise apathetic posters and those who don't really understand what CC is all about.

That's yet another reason for me to hate him, dragging CC down to a razzle-dazzle vote for the man not the posts stage-show. Disgusting stuff, he should be dragged out of that giant glass-testicle and pitched off Tower Bridge.

Pedronicus wrote:As far as the dangers of an open backed bus, tell that to the geezer who was stabbed to death after asking some nutter to stop throwing chips at his girlfriend.

Pedronicus wrote:All my life, I've voted Labour, but not this time.

I voted for Boris. Yes he's a fucking imbecile, but Ken was pissing me off with his transport policies.
A bendy bus can
a. easily be gotten onto without paying A conclusive reason for scraping the whole fucking lot... or not
b. you can't get off it until the driver opens the doors. Clearly you've never used the emergency handles, even a child could pop them open should they desire. Sorry, but that option is bogus.

The routemaster has been fucked over by the H&S and the disability morons insisting that an open back is dangerous and someone in a wheelchair must have access to a bus. Most people in a wheelchair have some poor schmuck pushing them anyway, so ask the pusher to push them to their destination.
That seems fairly uncharitable, so far as I'm aware there are many self-propelled wheelchair users. Also, you are aware that the new model Routemasters have been proposed with an electric door at the traditionally-open rear, right?

I (and the majority of able bodied passengers) want to get on and off a bus when ever we like.
Well that's all very well, but I don't really fancy forking out money to ever dumb fecker who gets off of a bus into oncoming traffic, or who hops out while it's still moving.
In an age of compensation culture, a tiny bit of restriction on where and when you can hop on and off a bus seems a small price to pay for the millions that will be squandered on legal cases in their absence.
Furthermore, surely a roaming conductor seeking out antisocial behaviour can't mind the back of the bus all the time (i.e. while buses are stuck in traffic) and as such this will make RMs even easier to get onto without payment than the bendy alternative?

As far as the dangers of an open backed bus, tell that to the geezer who was stabbed to death after asking some nutter to stop throwing chips at his girlfriend.
Sorry, but that doesn't actually prove anything... please elaborate on how somebody being stabbed on a bus magically makes double-decker ones the only answer.

If LRT want's me to get on a bus (which requires waiting in the fresh air for one to turn up when it likes) then only to be charged more than driving somewhere, then they can think again.
Great, then let's double the staff on each bus, cut every vehicles maximum capacity by a third, and invest in a whole new fleet of buses to replace perfectly servicable current ones. Prices will plummet! It's a stroke of genius!

Or not...

Ken used to bang on about the price of a bus ticket actually going down if you had an oystercard. I doubt that many tourists get an oystercard, and therefore go home and tell their friends how expensive travel is in London. Not a good advert for the capital.
Non-tax-paying visitors to the capital are paying money to use public transport, and not being given savings that tax-paying residents get... and you're complaining?
I suspect that the price of EVERYTHING ELSE will leave tourists complaining about London's expensive nature, not just bus tickets. Dropping prices for non-taxpayers on public transport would just be a teardrop in an ocean.

London has become impossible to buy a house in unless you have a 60K salary
So let's elect a mayor who has pledged to scrap compulsory building of affordable housing... good plan
London has 1 black teenager killed each week by other black teenager
So let's elect a mayor who has no practical experience of a political role concerned with policing, and who has no understanding of the lives of the working class... great idea
London has an Olympics that will do nothing for regenerating the East End. I used to work in Carpenters Road, and no one with a business there was ever going to spend too much on the premises because for 15 years the general area was always earmarked for some possible government compulsory purchase due to Channel Tunnel rail Link / Olympics / other sporting venue for something pointless.
So let's sack the mayor who initiated the Gateway Redevelopment Project, aiming to provide urban regeneration to precisely the area you describe... brilliant stuff

London has a congestion charge that isn't about congestion, it's about making money.
Please provide proof or evidence rather than random sweeping assertions. Kkthxbi.

London Communist wrote:True dat!

Cos like bein from london, it's like kool, but like gots loads of like fuckin fascists here. Fukin Boris wants to stop takin away lots of money from people who have got cars and stuff, and wurk for a livin...probably doin like fucking slave tradin or sumfink. I say f*ck boris and fucxk the conversation party, cos they are fuckin racist fascists, and wanna kill black people and effnicly clense us. Yeah!" the fuckkin enviroment is bein raped here by people who wana drive a car. I say tax em so we can donate more cash to fuckin rupert mugabe. SAVE AFRICA!

Napoleon Ier wrote:So,other than Bendy Buses, why do you hate Boris?

Napoleon Ier wrote:So, other than Bendy Buses and his haircut/color, why do you hate Boris?

Napoleon Ier wrote:

Napoleon Ier wrote:So, other than Bendy Buses and his haircut/color, why do you hate Boris?

Dancing Mustard wrote:

Napoleon Ier wrote:

Napoleon Ier wrote:So, other than Bendy Buses and his haircut/color, why do you hate Boris?

No seriously, RTFT.