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Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:31 am
by militant
mandalorian2298 wrote: SFOS GA7


Does the S stand for super per chance?

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:33 am
by sheepofdumb
danodukebb wrote:i wouldn't go so fast there sheepy


I'm not. That's why I haven't voted yet.

[quote="militant"]Does the S stand for super per chance?/quote]

Yes.

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:17 am
by ga7
mandalorian2298 wrote:Please explain the bold part Ga7. How am I defensive of Selin? I gave you 24 hours to explain the reasons behind your claim tha Selin is the Godfather and then I voted you because the way you dropped an accusation and then went into hiding seemed as scummy as hell to me.
After I read your first post, I was hoping that you are some kind of uber-Cop capable of finding Godfathers. But, given that your accusation had been totaly unfounded, you are promoted to No. 2 on my Scum-list.
Unvote vote Clive (because he is still No 1 :twisted: ) SFOS GA7

Oh come on Mandy, you supposedly try to kill Selin then do not even wonder why he didn't die and proceed to accuse me on the basis of my vote on him. That's out of character and scummy, therefore brings more credit to my crazy theory. I'd be open to start with your lynch anyway; after all a vig who randomly tries to kill high profile players has a good chance to be scum :P

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:20 am
by jnd94
Yeah, good post militant. I wouldn't leave the eye off dano for now, as you can see, he was squirming for a way out when you put the pressure on him.

danodukeofbb wrote:Notice how I haven't posted too much lately? because I'm trying to figure some stuff out, do what you have to but don't blame me


danodukeofbb wrote:whats the other leads right now?

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:26 am
by Selin
ga7 wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:Please explain the bold part Ga7. How am I defensive of Selin? I gave you 24 hours to explain the reasons behind your claim tha Selin is the Godfather and then I voted you because the way you dropped an accusation and then went into hiding seemed as scummy as hell to me.
After I read your first post, I was hoping that you are some kind of uber-Cop capable of finding Godfathers. But, given that your accusation had been totaly unfounded, you are promoted to No. 2 on my Scum-list.
Unvote vote Clive (because he is still No 1 :twisted: ) SFOS GA7

Oh come on Mandy, you supposedly try to kill Selin then do not even wonder why he didn't die and proceed to accuse me on the basis of my vote on him. That's out of character and scummy, therefore brings more credit to my crazy theory. I'd be open to start with your lynch anyway; after all a vig who randomly tries to kill high profile players has a good chance to be scum :P


Finally some wise words ;)

Good players are mostly targeted to get rid of them. Without having any specific reason why mandy should choose me to kill, the whole story (that he chose me as target) is highly suspicious. However there is a simple explanation for that (other than all those more complex ones with busdrivers or doctors protecting me); mandy lies most probably. This would have been a clever move, because knowing that I didn't die last night, he forced other townie roles to claim either that they protected/not protected or busdriven/not busdriven me. This would have given some valuable information to scum.

There maybe some other reason why mandy is lying, but honestly said, my whole mafia experience tells me to lynch liars as fast as possible.

Vote: mandy

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Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:35 am
by ga7
*grins* This is getting interesting. I reread Mandy's explanation on why he targeted you, and while it's not very convincing it could go either way. I remember one of the times I was town vig where I killed Sierra "just in case" cause he's too good at scum :lol:
Anyway, there's something basically fishy with this. We had 3 kills, this is a fair bit for a 16 player game. I do not believe there could be 1/4th of the players with nightkill powers in this. Therefore the only thing that could make Mandy not a liar is an eventual busdrive I think.
Unvote Vote Mandy
FOS Selin, Dano :P

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:37 am
by Selin
And ga7:

I didn't react on your vote, because

a) at first sight I thought you were joking referring to our former mafia games like Lost and Grimm's Fairy Tales, where I voted scums with their names (and was right).

b) I wanted to see the reaction of others who didn't play those mafia games (if they start bandwagonning etc.). The only one who reacted on you was mandy and AD. Mandy didn't get it, but thought it could be a joke. AD asked you, if you are serious. As AD was the mod of Lost mafia game, I thought I don't need to answer him and indicated that in my post to him.

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Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:43 am
by ga7
:shock:
While rereading I realized Mandy can't be scum. From the night scene:
Skittles! wrote:The Prise is lost without their leader, Paranoia, so will Hundriah take the burden of up-keeping the riddle from God? It's all up to grabs.[/i]

It was thought that Mandy's name was potentially a fakeclaim since it was so obscure. Now I see it in the scene writeup, it's dubious that it could be a scum fakeclaim.
Unvote
Hmm. Now unfortunately I'm satisfied with Selin's explanation and realized that most likely Mandy's kill never reached him.
I think I'll follow Mili's case on Dano, which is pretty compelling.
Vote Dano

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D1.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:45 am
by Selin
Selin wrote:We need 9 votes for a lynch and have less than 48 hours :!:

Vote: dano for various reasons

1) lots of vote hopping
2) skimmimg many times. There are other examples, but he reached the peak when he posted at the end of page 13 that Iliad is a cop and therefore unvoted him. After all the heavy discussions between sierra and iliad, and Iliad explaining in many posts about his protection abilities like doctor, I cannot accept that someone still think Iliad is a cop.
3) voting unlynch which can only help scum, and stating in the same post that "I'm just worried my knowledge of C&C will cause the mafia to vote me off"

There are some other smaller indications, but the above three are the three main ones.

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And this was my post of yesterday after I explained why I do believe that pancake was not a scum (and I was right again). Only militant followed that post and voted dano. All others ignored it and pancake was lynched. Now militant comes with more or less the same argumentation and some start to say how good that post was. Very interesting. :!:

I won't comment more on that for the time being.

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Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:55 am
by ga7
I find the context pretty different there. You voted for Dano (after several others had found him fishy) putting the first vote on him at the 48h deadline when Pancake was at 3 votes and more likely to get lynched. Mili brings back the Dano case with the added incriminative elements at the start of a fresh day, making it easier to follow and discuss as we don't have as much pressure for a lynch. If anything, if Dano is in fact scum that would make me more suspicious of you who votes him when he can't be likely to get lynched and avoids voting him when he can :mrgreen:

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:07 pm
by pancakemix
Vote Dano, as the only thing going against his lynch at this point is theme knowledge.

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:13 pm
by Anarkistsdream
GA7 and Selin...

You two are in my top 5 of best players. By best, of course, I mean actually putting the time and thought into coming up with well-thought arguments.

I have nothing to add, because these two have said it all.

Vote: Dano

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:25 pm
by mandalorian2298
ga7 wrote:I find the context pretty different there. You voted for Dano (after several others had found him fishy) putting the first vote on him at the 48h deadline when Pancake was at 3 votes and more likely to get lynched. Mili brings back the Dano case with the added incriminative elements at the start of a fresh day, making it easier to follow and discuss as we don't have as much pressure for a lynch. If anything, if Dano is in fact scum that would make me more suspicious of you who votes him when he can't be likely to get lynched and avoids voting him when he can :mrgreen:


Sure, if you're gonna be all reasonable we'll never get a decent name-calling going. :roll:

Well, I guess Militant's case against Dano makes sense. Unvote Clive since no one loves me enough to join my crusade against him. :cry: vote Dano

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:19 pm
by jnd94
jnd94 wrote:Yeah, good post militant. I wouldn't leave the eye off dano for now, as you can see, he was squirming for a way out when you put the pressure on him.

danodukeofbb wrote:Notice how I haven't posted too much lately? because I'm trying to figure some stuff out, do what you have to but don't blame me


danodukeofbb wrote:whats the other leads right now?
Vote dano



EBWOP

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:57 pm
by /
-1 I think, are we going for a lynch now or waiting for something?

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:01 pm
by militant
A claim me thinks.

Skittles!, can we have a vote count pretty please to confirm Dano is -1.

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:25 pm
by danodukebb
mehh probably won't do anygood claims are believed probably less that 10% of the time
and with my luck, i got a small character

names chase, im protown, created by Jessie(inferno) to help win the war

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:26 pm
by mandalorian2298
militant wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote: SFOS GA7


Does the S stand for super per chance?


I think that it stands for 'Serious'.

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:14 pm
by jnd94
danodukebb wrote:mehh probably won't do anygood claims are believed probably less that 10% of the time
and with my luck, i got a small character

names chase, im protown, created by Jessie(inferno) to help win the war



nah, I don't believe it.

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:31 pm
by danodukebb
well buddy, your loss, on 2 counts, one bye bye townie, and two bye bye anyone with any real knowledge of the story/comics/music

have fun :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:05 pm
by Iliad
militant wrote:A claim me thinks.

Skittles!, can we have a vote count pretty please to confirm Dano is -1.

A vote count to see where we are would be nice

Dano-a townie isn't a dramatic loss, and knowledge can be learnt if at tiems necessary

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:49 pm
by Skittles!
Jesse, bad boy
Just come look at what your brother did
To that girl's precious little whore of a body.


VOTE COUNT

Selin (1) - Anarkistsdream
Anarkistsdream (1) - Skoffin
Danodukebb (6) - militant, Selin, Ga7, Pancakemix, Mandalorian2298, jnd94

With 13 alive, 7 to lynch

Remember to unvote then vote!

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:01 pm
by Iliad
Dano is quite by far the best lead in my opinion. If he is telling the truth then we lost a townie. Not the biggest of losses

Vote dano

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:41 pm
by pancakemix
Dano, are you willing to reveal the truth now that you're gone? Or has the truth been given?

Re: Coheed & Cambria mafia - D2.

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:18 am
by danodukebb
yeah i am who i said i was

peace