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Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1 *Replace Needed

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:46 pm
by edocsil
Victor Sullivan wrote:Some people *cough* A_D and edocsil *cough* need to take a side. We've got two people at L-2 guys.
Well, Fircoal's reasoning is miserable. Is it lynchable? Perhaps, perhaps not. He totally jumped on MeDeFe for defending himself "too early" but honestly, he was at L-2 and I think his action was entirely reasonable. I would like to see what he has to say for himself.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1 *Replace Needed

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:12 pm
by Fircoal
xwx;;;

Let's put it this way. If anyone was to put down the hammer vote without a proper defense given by the accused they're either completely brain dead or scum about to win the game. Since we know the setup and it's nawt the latter, and I don't think anyone here is brain dead I think we can rest assured that we're safe until night from being hammered stupidly at L-1 and especially L-2

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1 *Replace Needed

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:15 pm
by Fircoal
Victor Sullivan wrote:Some people *cough* A_D and edocsil *cough* need to take a side. We've got two people at L-2 guys.
You talk as if our argument is the only thing that matters. Our argument is just one showing one scum tell out of many others that you can find. L-2 in a game with 7 people is NOTHING. Once they get to L-1 then that might be something but again, 2 votes aren't hard to come by >W>

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1 *Replace Needed

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:26 pm
by Fircoal
You know I'm starting to think that this whole argument is really about whether you find L-2 to be a dangerous place to be at in a 7 player mafia game.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1 *Replace Needed

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:19 am
by MeDeFe
Fircoal wrote:L-2 in a game with 7 people is NOTHING. Once they get to L-1 then that might be something but again, 2 votes aren't hard to come by >W>
You're contradicting yourself.
Fircoal wrote:You know I'm starting to think that this whole argument is really about whether you find L-2 to be a dangerous place to be at in a 7 player mafia game.
Congratulations! You're making progress. If you'd read my posts more carefully you might have deduced that I consider L-2 a dangerous place to be 2 days ago already.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1 *Replace Needed

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:36 am
by Fircoal
MeDeFe wrote:
Fircoal wrote:L-2 in a game with 7 people is NOTHING. Once they get to L-1 then that might be something but again, 2 votes aren't hard to come by >W>
You're contradicting yourself.
Fircoal wrote:You know I'm starting to think that this whole argument is really about whether you find L-2 to be a dangerous place to be at in a 7 player mafia game.
Congratulations! You're making progress. If you'd read my posts more carefully you might have deduced that I consider L-2 a dangerous place to be 2 days ago already.
I don't think you get what I mean. The first 2 votes in a 7 player game are easy to come by. The latter 2 are very hard unless a defense has been heard, or its a Lylo situation.

I deduced that long ago, I just don't agree with it. :P I just now realized that this argument is going no where and probably won't actually do much.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1 *Replace Needed

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:00 am
by ga7
I'll replace, looks like this one could end quickly :P

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:36 pm
by AceArtemis
-Vote Count-

MeDeFe (2)- colton24, Fircoal
Fircoal (2)- Victor Sullivan, MeDeFe
edocsil (1)- aage

Not Voting- Ga7, edocsil

4 to Lynch.

-Mod Note-
Ga7 replaces A_D.

And since no more replacements are needed, I'm going to reset the deadline. It is now exactly 6 days from the time of this post.

Carry on.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1 *Replace Needed

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:08 pm
by aage
Very well.

[quote="FircoalI don't think you get what I mean. The first 2 votes in a 7 player game are easy to come by. The latter 2 are very hard unless a defense has been heard, or its a Lylo situation. [/quote]
This is true, I can't say much more to contradict it. Still this discussion doesn't bring us anywhere, since it does not convince me to vote either of you.

I will unvote and read back for a bit. Then I'll let you know how I feel about this discussion, and whether we should add more players to the supect list.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:15 pm
by edocsil
Vote firecoal

He is playing exactly the same way he did in my DA when he was scum. I also found his opinions on the whole L-2 thing to be less then satisfactory.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:17 pm
by aage
Okay, go to page 2. There are two votes cast on MeDeFe on that page: one from Colton and one from Edocsil. After MeDeFe made a fuss about it Edoc unvoted and was replaced by Fircoal who decided MeDeFe was defending himself too quick. Next there's Victor jumping on Fircoal and Edoc making a comment I don't really get about Colton and Cena being involved (?).

I can see why MeDeFe defended, but I can also see why Fircoal was suspicious of that. He's right to say the latter 2 votes should be cast by stupid scum or truly retarted townies, aside of the fact that his suspicion in the first place was actually based on an argument. Normally town people don't have a problem with lynching someone based on arguments. Unless it's of course themself. This is why I don't think MeDeFe to be suspicious.

It is why I find Victor suspicious.

Vote Victor Sullivan.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1 *Replace Needed

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:17 pm
by aage
aage wrote:Very well.

[quote="Fircoal]I don't think you get what I mean. The first 2 votes in a 7 player game are easy to come by. The latter 2 are very hard unless a defense has been heard, or its a Lylo situation.
This is true, I can't say much more to contradict it. Still this discussion doesn't bring us anywhere, since it does not convince me to vote either of you.

I will unvote and read back for a bit. Then I'll let you know how I feel about this discussion, and whether we should add more players to the supect list.[/quote][/quote]
Fixed.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1 *Replace Needed

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:18 pm
by aage
aage wrote:
aage wrote:Very well.
Fircoal wrote:I don't think you get what I mean. The first 2 votes in a 7 player game are easy to come by. The latter 2 are very hard unless a defense has been heard, or its a Lylo situation.
This is true, I can't say much more to contradict it. Still this discussion doesn't bring us anywhere, since it does not convince me to vote either of you.

I will unvote and read back for a bit. Then I'll let you know how I feel about this discussion, and whether we should add more players to the supect list.
Fixed.
Argh, still not fixed. I hate the quote system.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1 *Replace Needed

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:08 pm
by Victor Sullivan
aage wrote:
aage wrote:Very well.
Fircoal wrote:I don't think you get what I mean. The first 2 votes in a 7 player game are easy to come by. The latter 2 are very hard unless a defense has been heard, or its a Lylo situation.
This is true, I can't say much more to contradict it. Still this discussion doesn't bring us anywhere, since it does not convince me to vote either of you.

I will unvote and read back for a bit. Then I'll let you know how I feel about this discussion, and whether we should add more players to the supect list.
Fixed.
Aha! Fixed.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1 *Replace Needed

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:13 pm
by Victor Sullivan
aage wrote:I find Victor suspicious.

Vote Victor Sullivan.
Why? I was the first to vote for Fircoal:
AceArtemis wrote:-Vote Count-

MeDeFe (2)- colton24, Fircoal
edocsil (2)- aage, MeDeFe
Fircoal (1)- Victor Sullivan

Not Voting- A_D, edocsil

4 to Lynch.
Is that scummy? Didn't think so. At first my vote was a little random, but after further comments by both MeDeFe and Fircoal, I was convinced Fircoal was scum, especially considering he seems "out of character" in comparison to other mafias I've played with him/spectated.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:17 pm
by aage
I think it's scummy, especially since you were the first to vote Fircoal. MeDeFe didn't seem bothered enough to put a vote on it. You did. And you weren't even in the argument.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:18 pm
by MeDeFe
aage wrote:MeDeFe didn't seem bothered enough to put a vote on it.
I have since, though.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:18 pm
by Victor Sullivan
aage wrote:I think it's scummy, especially since you were the first to vote Fircoal. MeDeFe didn't seem bothered enough to put a vote on it. You did. And you weren't even in the argument.
...? I'm not following your logic. But I suppose it doesn't really matter since the spotlight's on Fircoal and MeDeFe.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:33 pm
by colton24
Fircoal can never be out of character...

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:54 pm
by AceArtemis
-Vote Count-

Fircoal (3)- Victor Sullivan, MeDeFe, edocsil
MeDeFe (2)- colton24, Fircoal
Victor Sullivan (1)- aage

Not Voting- Ga7

4 to Lynch.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:11 pm
by ga7
kwanfirm.

On my first read I thought the winning ticket was Medefe-Edocsil. That thing at the beginning where Medefe overreacts and Edoc just backs down freaking quickly feels staged. Then Medefe OMGUS votes Fir, thus overreacting more. Fishy.
On my second read I feel Aage might be on to something about Victor that is just waiting without making waves, having his vote placed already. I find Edoc slightly more suspicious though as he seems to act more opportunistic. However I want to hear from Fir for now since he's at lynch -1. And btw, let's not make l-2 the new l-1 :P

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:45 pm
by Fircoal
colton24 wrote:Fircoal can never be out of character...
Yes I can. Just imagine if I said I HATED Pikachu. It'd be like someone hacked my account!

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:56 pm
by Fircoal
edocsil wrote:Vote firecoal

He is playing exactly the same way he did in my DA when he was scum. I also found his opinions on the whole L-2 thing to be less then satisfactory.
Actually I'm not playing the same was as I did in DA. During DA I accused lots of people but made sure that I didn't vote anyone so that when a townie was lynched I wouldn't be blamed for it. This made me look town but sadly that did nothing as Squirrel was lunched and we lost the game. D: While I put many fingers down and I never voted. This game on the other hand is a different case. I only have been after 1 person so far and I have put my foot down. I know that it's not the most revealing scum tell but I think that when it's this early anything could and should be used so that we can have discussion grow from it (which it did). I still think that MeFeDe is suspicious though it seems a fair good amount of this really is due to differences in L-2 between L-1.

I personally don't see what's so scummy on my part, the idea to try to start aggressive is one I've tried to start so that we don't waste our time and just get into a good game of mafia. This ain't no Fircoal game. ;3

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:07 pm
by edocsil
ga7 wrote:kwanfirm.

On my first read I thought the winning ticket was Medefe-Edocsil. That thing at the beginning where Medefe overreacts and Edoc just backs down freaking quickly feels staged. Then Medefe OMGUS votes Fir, thus overreacting more. Fishy.
On my second read I feel Aage might be on to something about Victor that is just waiting without making waves, having his vote placed already. I find Edoc slightly more suspicious though as he seems to act more opportunistic. However I want to hear from Fir for now since he's at lynch -1. And btw, let's not make l-2 the new l-1 :P
You give me too much credit, it was merely a joke, and then not wanting to needlessly piss off another player after the joke was over.

Re: Short, Simple Werewolf-Themed Game DAY 1

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:20 pm
by Victor Sullivan
ga7 wrote:kwanfirm.

On my first read I thought the winning ticket was Medefe-Edocsil. That thing at the beginning where Medefe overreacts and Edoc just backs down freaking quickly feels staged. Then Medefe OMGUS votes Fir, thus overreacting more. Fishy.
On my second read I feel Aage might be on to something about Victor that is just waiting without making waves, having his vote placed already. I find Edoc slightly more suspicious though as he seems to act more opportunistic. However I want to hear from Fir for now since he's at lynch -1. And btw, let's not make l-2 the new l-1 :P
Vote already, ga7!