Conquer Club

Phatscotty wrote:

The official language of the United States and the language of commerce are English. It is entirely possible to celebrate the wonderful unity our nation engenders under a flag that proudly waves above anyone who wishes to be a part of her, without enabling those unwilling to learn a common tongue.

It is blatantly idiotic to assume that people wish to celebrate their mother tongue are "unwilling to learn a common tongue." It makes perfect sense to me that someone would participate in the common culture of the place they live in on a routine Monday-to-Friday basis, and still celebrate their original culture on the weekends, on holidays, feast days, family anniversaries or other special occasions. Your fears of subversion are unwarranted. A man who wears lederhosen to an Oktoberfest party will still be back in the office on Monday morning with his boring blue suit.

"According to wikipedia," there's no federal law making English the official language; 29 states have state laws making English their official state language, 3 states recognize two languages (Hawaii [English and Hawaiian], New Mexico [English and Spanish since 1912], and Louisiana [English and French]), and 18 states have no official language. The territories have separate official languages, Puerto Rico (Spanish), Guam (Chamarro), Northern Mariana (Chamarro), and Samoa (Samoan).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages ... ted_States

This - http://www.narf.org/pubs/edu/pink.pdf - says 12 states grant "special status" to various Native American languages.

According to the National Park Service - http://www.nps.gov/mava/index.htm - Martin Van Buren's family exclusively spoke Dutch in the White House on weekends and after 5PM.

It makes one wonder why they left their native lands if they do not want to be a part of the land they immigrated to? It really is the apex of conceit.


Mmm..just as the first European immigrants(uninvited) to the Americas assimilated to the existing conditions/culture/language they found,or maybe they were at the apex orf conceit?

Wow! I got mentioned in a blog! Yeah, it was for my love of the WWE, but still...

chang50 wrote:It makes one wonder why they left their native lands if they do not want to be a part of the land they immigrated to? It really is the apex of conceit.


Mmm..just as the first European immigrants(uninvited) to the Americas assimilated to the existing conditions/culture/language they found,or maybe they were at the apex orf conceit?

Right. Assimilation isn't the only goal when people travel abroad for better social and economic opportunities.

People, who insist that cultural assimilation is a necessary goal which should be imposed by the state, are acting like a bunch of thugs. State socialists, fascists, and the KKK use similar reasoning. This disqualifies those adherents from being libertarian or even liberal--in the true sense of the word.

BigBallinStalin wrote:

chang50 wrote:It makes one wonder why they left their native lands if they do not want to be a part of the land they immigrated to? It really is the apex of conceit.


Mmm..just as the first European immigrants(uninvited) to the Americas assimilated to the existing conditions/culture/language they found,or maybe they were at the apex orf conceit?

Right. Assimilation isn't the only goal when people travel abroad for better social and economic opportunities.

People, who insist that cultural assimilation is a necessary goal which should be imposed by the state, are acting like a bunch of thugs. State socialists, fascists, and the KKK use similar reasoning. This disqualifies those adherents from being libertarian or even liberal--in the true sense of the word.

This is just your communism/socialism/marxism brand talkin', BBS. My friend is wise to you.


--Andy

AndyDufresne wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:

chang50 wrote:It makes one wonder why they left their native lands if they do not want to be a part of the land they immigrated to? It really is the apex of conceit.


Mmm..just as the first European immigrants(uninvited) to the Americas assimilated to the existing conditions/culture/language they found,or maybe they were at the apex orf conceit?

Right. Assimilation isn't the only goal when people travel abroad for better social and economic opportunities.

People, who insist that cultural assimilation is a necessary goal which should be imposed by the state, are acting like a bunch of thugs. State socialists, fascists, and the KKK use similar reasoning. This disqualifies those adherents from being libertarian or even liberal--in the true sense of the word.

This is just your communism/socialism/marxism brand talkin', BBS. My friend is wise to you.


--Andy

And for that comment, you've been bumped up from #87 to #3 on my Assimilation List.

The official language of the United States and the language of commerce are English.

The U.S. doesn't have an official language; thirty-two states have state official languages: 29 are English, 1 (Hawaii) is Hawaiian and English, 1 (New Mexico) is Spanish and English, and 1 (Louisiana) is French and English. Eighteen states have no official language. Twelve states grant "special status" to several Native American languages. Martin Van Buren spoke Dutch in the White House on weekends and after 5 p.m. In 1788 the U.S. founding fathers ordered the draft U.S. constitution translated into Dutch as part of a PR program targeting the Dutch-speaking minority in New York. The first newspaper to publish excerpts from the U.S. Declaration of Independence was the Pennsylvanischer Staatsbote which published it in German on July 5, 1776.

saxitoxin wrote:Martin Van Buren spoke Dutch in the White House on weekends and after 5 p.m. In 1788 the U.S. founding fathers ordered the draft U.S. constitution translated into Dutch as part of a PR program targeting the Dutch-speaking minority in New York.

Yeah... right. Like there were clocks in 1788.

thegreekdog wrote:

AndyDufresne wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:
Sweet thread and good topic, but I want to go ahead and take the next step. So if it is bigoted just to call someone a pro-lifer or to be pro-life, what is it when a governor of a state tells you you are no longer welcome there, and that you have no place there?

Is this your fiscal policy coming up again?


--Andy

Yes, that's all he talks about is fiscal policy.

Almost done trolling?

Hey youse, git out of Merica!!! Yer not Merican enuff!!!!

Phatscotty wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:

AndyDufresne wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:
Sweet thread and good topic, but I want to go ahead and take the next step. So if it is bigoted just to call someone a pro-lifer or to be pro-life, what is it when a governor of a state tells you you are no longer welcome there, and that you have no place there?

Is this your fiscal policy coming up again?


--Andy

Yes, that's all he talks about is fiscal policy.

Almost done trolling?

Ready to admit that you lied and you do care about stuff other than fiscal policy?