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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:37 pm
by Haggis_McMutton
The info about replacements is buried 20 or so pages back, can't be bothered to dig it up. You can try to find it or ask Squirrel and wait i guess.
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:39 pm
by FloresDelMal
Haggis_McMutton wrote:The info about replacements is buried 20 or so pages back, can't be bothered to dig it up. You can try to find it or ask Squirrel and wait i guess.
there is also a handy "search" button
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:42 pm
by Haggis_McMutton
FloresDelMal wrote:Haggis_McMutton wrote:The info about replacements is buried 20 or so pages back, can't be bothered to dig it up. You can try to find it or ask Squirrel and wait i guess.
there is also a handy "search" button
You just wanted revenge for calling you a newb.
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:44 pm
by Fircoal
FloresDelMal wrote:VioIet wrote:My point is- I was not defending her for friendship reasons- it is the way I am playing the game. You can analyze that strategy however you like.
most ppl til now have discarded the idea of "vio+daze=newbie scum team" on the light of their IRL friendship, now if she admit to not have defended her because of friendship, does this theory still hold water?
well I think she's saying that she did for a bit but isn't now, so it can hold some water but not all of it.
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:45 pm
by strike wolf
Mr. Squirrel wrote:aage is replacing mandy
flow520 is replacing AoG (I just confirmed his ban)
I'm seeing if stefunny85 is still interested in replacing
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:47 pm
by FloresDelMal
Haggis_McMutton wrote:FloresDelMal wrote:Haggis_McMutton wrote:The info about replacements is buried 20 or so pages back, can't be bothered to dig it up. You can try to find it or ask Squirrel and wait i guess.
there is also a handy "search" button
You just wanted revenge for calling you a newb.
ah you teaser, you shouldnt flirt so much with me as i am a married woman
Fircoal wrote:FloresDelMal wrote:VioIet wrote:My point is- I was not defending her for friendship reasons- it is the way I am playing the game. You can analyze that strategy however you like.
most ppl til now have discarded the idea of "vio+daze=newbie scum team" on the light of their IRL friendship, now if she admit to not have defended her because of friendship, does this theory still hold water?
well I think she's saying that she did for a bit but isn't now, so it can hold some water but not all of it.
and what do we do with the leftover water? 0o
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:53 pm
by theherkman
Let's get Daze in here. I have an alternate plan where I can ask her questions and not give away the doctors name to the rest of you.
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:59 pm
by Victor Sullivan
WAIT FOR HER. Don't post meaningless crap in hopes that it might summon her to her computer.
-Sully
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:05 pm
by VioIet
OH wow!!!! I had not read all of this when I made my last post. I saw strikewolf's post and responded right away, then continued reading. So I was late to all the action.
Wow, now things are really getting good.
I hope people won't jump all over me for saying this- but i think its obvious herk is the doctor.
Anyway, people seemed to look down on me reminding Dazey to post. It almost got her killed Squirrel said not to contact her earlier in the day. If i get his permission i will call her- but I really hate to bother her about mafia. Really its quite trivial to her right now. I mean she likes playing but....
Ack its hard to explain. If i get a yes from Squirrel, I'll contact her. If not, we just have to wait til she checks again.
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:08 pm
by Fircoal
VioIet wrote:
I hope people won't jump all over me for saying this- but i think its obvious herk is the doctor.
That's really not the type of thing that you should be saying.
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:09 pm
by theherkman
VioIet wrote:I hope people won't jump all over me for saying this- but i think its obvious herk is the doctor.
This actually isn't true. It's a whole lot more complicated than that. Mr. Squirrel put together some interesting roles that seem to be intertwined. All I am saying is that I know who 2 townies are and depending on what Daze says, I can call her out on a lie. Maybe this is why she didn't explain, because she was afraid of getting called out on it.
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:14 pm
by theherkman
But I honestly can't believe you said that... Only mafia would try and out the doctor... wtf vi? FOS...
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:15 pm
by theherkman
Also, I would like to note that /, Commander9, spiesr, sensfan, vioiet, aage are all in this forum. It will be interesting to see who posts...
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:16 pm
by theherkman
theherkman wrote:Also, I would like to note that /, Commander9, spiesr, sensfan, vioiet, aage are all in this forum. It will be interesting to see who posts...
EBWOP and Jace22
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:16 pm
by strike wolf
Ok yeah you shouldn't have mentioned that whether you think that's what he is or not. Keep it to yourself. It's usually bad enough to say "oh I think blah de blah is the vig or so and so is the cop" where there's at least a doctor out there to protect them and while the chances of their being multiple town protector roles in this game we cannot guarrantee that nor could we guarantee the nature of those protective roles and whether they may or may not be handicapped in some fashion. A small FOS against you for even mentioning that.
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:17 pm
by theherkman
theherkman wrote:theherkman wrote:Also, I would like to note that /, Commander9, spiesr, sensfan, vioiet, aage are all in this forum. It will be interesting to see who posts...
EBWOP and Jace22
EBWOP and fircoal and flores
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:19 pm
by FloresDelMal
Fircoal wrote:VioIet wrote:
I hope people won't jump all over me for saying this- but i think its obvious herk is the doctor.
That's really not the type of thing that you should be saying.
why not if she is scum?
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:20 pm
by strike wolf
And some other people who posted 20 minutes ago and may have nothing new to say.
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:21 pm
by Haggis_McMutton
Yeah, the posting frenzy is kind of over.
Now we just wait for daze.
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:22 pm
by Commander9
Ugh... a lot of reading... Right before my testing day - awesome. I'll try to read and post something constructive, but sheesh you guys!
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:23 pm
by theherkman
She's here reading the thread right now!
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:23 pm
by blakebowling
FloresDelMal wrote:Fircoal wrote:VioIet wrote:
I hope people won't jump all over me for saying this- but i think its obvious herk is the doctor.
That's really not the type of thing that you should be saying.
why not if she is scum?
I've had this nagging suspicion, about violet, however I held back due to the fact that I felt immature for voting for daze because she was posting in pink. Either she's scum, or she's fighting hard to prove she isn't (why would she if she isn't scum)
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:30 pm
by spiesr
First of all UnVote.
If herk is what I think he is then my once fairly strong belief in Daze's claim is contradicted and shifted to herk's role that he hasn't claimed yet. I think I have his role all figured out, and hope that the scum can't do the same. Herk, don't post anything else that would help them figure out your role unless you are absolutely forced.
As for Daze. At this point the thing which caused me to believe her claim is gone. It might still be true, but I am no longer sure. My current theory is the the doctor reference in her claim was either meaningless, or a reference to her character's back story that won't help us out in any way, since both town and scum players could both have a doctor randomly mentioned in their flavor stories. The "doctor" could even mean the profession as opposed to the role in that case. Other possibilities where she actually has a connection with a doctor do exist, like lovers, however they can't really prove her alignment, just her linkedness...
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:32 pm
by dazerazer
Whew!!!! That speed reading class I took a few years ago sure paid off.
so......well......erm... I was like hoping to avoid this, but ya'll forced me. Didn't wanna say more about my role then necessary. Just more info for the mob to know.
I have no idea ya'll who's the doc. Ya'll are really beatin a dead horse here. Seriously.
My name is Chuck Lewis. Ima town roleblocker. If a doc targets me, my role will be changed. That's why I said my role involved a doc. I dunno who anyone is this game cept for me,myself and I.
Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:35 pm
by karelpietertje
Thezzaruz wrote:karelpietertje wrote:All night actions together should be profitable to the mobsters, or they could never win.
Scums advantage lies in the fact that they have a kill night action coupled with them being allowed to coordinate with night talk, not in having the majority of active night actions.
Yup. I know. That's exactly why I was saying it like that. "All night actions together should be profitable to the mobsters"
So hypothetically speaking, if there are two townies, who are let's say doctors, and one mafia with a kill, the town have more actions, but overall, the mafia has benefit from the Night.
Now if there's a noob/random roleblocker, he might accidentally roleblock one of the doctors, but because of the chance of preventing the kill, the roleblocker still is an advantage to the town.
A: the noob/random roleblocker blocks one of the doctors - odds: 2/n (n being the number of players)
This is only negative to the town if the doctors chose the person that the mafia killed. Let's say, for ease, that these are random as well. The odds of the doctors picking right, is 2/n. So the chance that the noob roleblocker was negative to town is 4/n^2
B: the noob/random roleblocker blocks the killer - odds of being positive to town: 1/n
with 30 players, 1/n is way bigger than 4/n^2
(I was able to make it this simple because n is so big in this mafia)
(I can assure that with more roleblockers/killers/doctors, the noob roleblocker is still positive. Proof for every possible situation would take long, but I made these calculations to show you a general sense of the roleblocker is good, even when noob)
Just wanted to clarify, even though people seem to have moved on already.