Conquer Club

AAFitz wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:
and just so there is no confusion..... our war is not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities.

always the excuse of the self-righteous to shed blood.

You should read what Jesus wrote. You might learn something.

jay_a2j wrote:

AAFitz wrote:
You should read what Jesus wrote. You might learn something.

If someone "claims" to follow Christ they should never, under any circumstances "shed blood" but maybe if YOU read what Jesus wrote you'd know that.

pimpdave wrote:LOL, both of you idiots think Jesus wrote anything.

John 8:2-11 wrote:But early in the morning he arrived again in the temple area, and all the people started coming to him, and he sat down and taught them. Then the scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery and made her stand in the middle. They said to him, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the very act of committing adultery. Now in the law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?" They said this to test him, so that they could have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with his finger. But when they continued asking him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." Again he bent down and wrote on the ground. And in response, they went away one by one, beginning with the elders. So he was left alone with the woman before him. Then Jesus straightened up and said to her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" She replied, "No one, sir." Then Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you. Go, (and) from now on do not sin any more."

BigBallinStalin wrote:Yeah, so Jews don't have an opinion on this? Only Atheists and Christians?

"No agreement today, no agreement tomorrow" mentality is what we have here.

pimpdave wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

AAFitz wrote:
You should read what Jesus wrote. You might learn something.

If someone "claims" to follow Christ they should never, under any circumstances "shed blood" but maybe if YOU read what Jesus wrote you'd know that.

LOL, both of you idiots think Jesus wrote anything.

The Book of Jesus was mysteriously absent from the Bible I read as a kid. Maybe you found a copy?

jay_a2j wrote:

AAFitz wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:
and just so there is no confusion..... our war is not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities.

always the excuse of the self-righteous to shed blood.

You should read what Jesus wrote. You might learn something.

If someone "claims" to follow Christ they should never, under any circumstances "shed blood" but maybe if YOU read what Jesus wrote you'd know that.

tzor wrote:

pimpdave wrote:LOL, both of you idiots think Jesus wrote anything.

Of course he did. It's in the Bible, LOL. Of course what he actually wrote was never recorded.

John 8:2-11 wrote:But early in the morning he arrived again in the temple area, and all the people started coming to him, and he sat down and taught them. Then the scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery and made her stand in the middle. They said to him, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the very act of committing adultery. Now in the law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?" They said this to test him, so that they could have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with his finger. But when they continued asking him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." Again he bent down and wrote on the ground. And in response, they went away one by one, beginning with the elders. So he was left alone with the woman before him. Then Jesus straightened up and said to her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" She replied, "No one, sir." Then Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you. Go, (and) from now on do not sin any more."

AAFitz wrote: Youre the one advocating war, not to mention your war is exactly FOR power and principalities, but thats another conversation altogether.

jay_a2j wrote:Scripture = Word of God, inspired by God

Jesus IS the word and the Word was God

God authored the Bible

Jesus is God

HENCE

Jesus wrote

jay_a2j wrote:Scripture = Word of God, inspired by God

Jesus IS the word and the Word was God

God authored the Bible

Jesus is God

HENCE

Jesus wrote

Baron Von PWN wrote:Judging by all the commentary in this post I think everyone can agree the original article was wrong.

jay_a2j wrote:

AAFitz wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:
and just so there is no confusion..... our war is not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities.

always the excuse of the self-righteous to shed blood.

You should read what Jesus wrote. You might learn something.

If someone "claims" to follow Christ they should never, under any circumstances "shed blood" but maybe if YOU read what Jesus wrote you'd know that.

PLAYER57832 wrote:

Baron Von PWN wrote:Judging by all the commentary in this post I think everyone can agree the original article was wrong.

Not wrong, no... though as you pointed out, it should not be confined to just Atheism and Christianity. Trouble is, too many people see any agreement with those having different views as a "failure", so they will even turn against their own arguments when they are voiced by the "opposition".

Baron Von PWN wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:

Baron Von PWN wrote:Judging by all the commentary in this post I think everyone can agree the original article was wrong.

Not wrong, no... though as you pointed out, it should not be confined to just Atheism and Christianity. Trouble is, too many people see any agreement with those having different views as a "failure", so they will even turn against their own arguments when they are voiced by the "opposition".

But there is clearly disagreement between the two camps even on these specific things.

AAFitz wrote:

pimpdave wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

AAFitz wrote:
You should read what Jesus wrote. You might learn something.

If someone "claims" to follow Christ they should never, under any circumstances "shed blood" but maybe if YOU read what Jesus wrote you'd know that.

LOL, both of you idiots think Jesus wrote anything.

The Book of Jesus was mysteriously absent from the Bible I read as a kid. Maybe you found a copy?

Im sorry, are you saying that Jesus couldn't write?

I agree, the bible only includes what other people wrote about what he said...but he never wrote anything....ever???

Ok. I guess im the idiot.

jay_a2j wrote:

tzor wrote:

pimpdave wrote:LOL, both of you idiots think Jesus wrote anything.

Of course he did. It's in the Bible, LOL. Of course what he actually wrote was never recorded.

John 8:2-11 wrote:But early in the morning he arrived again in the temple area, and all the people started coming to him, and he sat down and taught them. Then the scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery and made her stand in the middle. They said to him, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the very act of committing adultery. Now in the law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?" They said this to test him, so that they could have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with his finger. But when they continued asking him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." Again he bent down and wrote on the ground. And in response, they went away one by one, beginning with the elders. So he was left alone with the woman before him. Then Jesus straightened up and said to her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" She replied, "No one, sir." Then Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you. Go, (and) from now on do not sin any more."

Scripture = Word of God, inspired by God

Jesus IS the word and the Word was God

God authored the Bible

Jesus is God

HENCE

Jesus wrote

BigBallinStalin wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

tzor wrote:

pimpdave wrote:LOL, both of you idiots think Jesus wrote anything.

Of course he did. It's in the Bible, LOL. Of course what he actually wrote was never recorded.

John 8:2-11 wrote:But early in the morning he arrived again in the temple area, and all the people started coming to him, and he sat down and taught them. Then the scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery and made her stand in the middle. They said to him, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the very act of committing adultery. Now in the law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?" They said this to test him, so that they could have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with his finger. But when they continued asking him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." Again he bent down and wrote on the ground. And in response, they went away one by one, beginning with the elders. So he was left alone with the woman before him. Then Jesus straightened up and said to her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" She replied, "No one, sir." Then Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you. Go, (and) from now on do not sin any more."

Scripture = Word of God, inspired by God

Jesus IS the word and the Word was God

God authored the Bible

Jesus is God

HENCE

Jesus wrote

Circular logic is circular.

tzor wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:Scripture = Word of God, inspired by God

Jesus IS the word and the Word was God

God authored the Bible

Jesus is God

HENCE

Jesus wrote

There is a logical error in your argument. In line one Scripture (another term for the Bible) is "inspired" by God, in line 3 it was "authored" by God. Which is it? You do realize that the only words written by God, the Father, (which by the way was limited to exactly ten, although he did rewrite them so it comes up to twenty) are also not recorded anywhere in the Bible. Odd, isn't it?

P.S. Scripture was inspired by God, through the person of the Spirit, not the Son, so double fail.

karelpietertje wrote:

AAFitz wrote:

pimpdave wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

AAFitz wrote:
You should read what Jesus wrote. You might learn something.

If someone "claims" to follow Christ they should never, under any circumstances "shed blood" but maybe if YOU read what Jesus wrote you'd know that.

LOL, both of you idiots think Jesus wrote anything.

The Book of Jesus was mysteriously absent from the Bible I read as a kid. Maybe you found a copy?

Im sorry, are you saying that Jesus couldn't write?

I agree, the bible only includes what other people wrote about what he said...but he never wrote anything....ever???

Ok. I guess im the idiot.

Yup, jay_a2j's response together with your post was pretty hilarious

Anyway, the good habits (for instance not killing people) Jesus advocated should be taught to people by their parents. Instead of telling people to read the Bible and 'learn something', I would rather urge people to discuss what's wrong and what's right with friends or family.
What do you feel is normal human behaviour, and do you think you need the Bible to keep you and others displaying that behaviour?

jay_a2j wrote:

tzor wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:Scripture = Word of God, inspired by God

Jesus IS the word and the Word was God

God authored the Bible

Jesus is God

HENCE

Jesus wrote

There is a logical error in your argument. In line one Scripture (another term for the Bible) is "inspired" by God, in line 3 it was "authored" by God. Which is it? You do realize that the only words written by God, the Father, (which by the way was limited to exactly ten, although he did rewrite them so it comes up to twenty) are also not recorded anywhere in the Bible. Odd, isn't it?

P.S. Scripture was inspired by God, through the person of the Spirit, not the Son, so double fail.

The logical error in your statement is.... "In the BEGINNING was the Word and the Word was God" Beginning, before man. Gods Word had already existed. Those words Moses and the others wrote down for you and me were given to him by God! So, God wrote the Bible.


So triple fail.