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Something with spoils I don't understand

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:43 am
by tonymontana123
Hello,
in a speed-game with 4 guys, someone had 5 spoils. He didn't hand them in tough, but deployed his troops and conquered some regions, eliminating a player. He then played 6 spoils, 2 times 3, and conquerd some regions again. To see, this is the game number: 6934438. I don't know how to explain it, just have a look, it's the red player.
I don't think he is cheating or the game has a bug or something like that, but could someone explain why this is possible and how this works?
cheers tonymontana123

Re: Something with spoils I don't understand

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 11:05 am
by darth emperor
well I don't see nothing wrong,red had 5 spoils changed 3 so he had 2...but at the end of the turn,he got another spoil then the next turn he had 3 killed green who had 4...that means 7 spoils...he turned and become 4...so he could turn again.

Re: Something with spoils I don't understand

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 11:07 am
by ljex
tonymontana123 wrote:Hello,
in a speed-game with 4 guys, someone had 5 spoils. He didn't hand them in tough, but deployed his troops and conquered some regions, eliminating a player. He then played 6 spoils, 2 times 3, and conquerd some regions again. To see, this is the game number: 6934438. I don't know how to explain it, just have a look, it's the red player.
I don't think he is cheating or the game has a bug or something like that, but could someone explain why this is possible and how this works?
cheers tonymontana123
He only started the round where he cashed 2 times with 3 spoils not five, the previous round he had 5 but cashed.

Re: Something with spoils I don't understand

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 11:10 am
by Echospree
I can't really see what you're talking about, since the log doesn't record how many spoils a player has.

If at the start of a players turn, he has 5 spoils, he *has* to play a set, it's impossible to start a turn without doing so.

Or are you talking about how he could drop two sets at the same time? It's possible if you have 6+ cards, and you have multiple sets. You can use as many or as few of the possible sets, as long as you have less than 5 cards in your hand afterwards.

Or am I missing the problem?

Re: Something with spoils I don't understand

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 11:31 am
by ljex
Echospree wrote:I can't really see what you're talking about, since the log doesn't record how many spoils a player has.

If at the start of a players turn, he has 5 spoils, he *has* to play a set, it's impossible to start a turn without doing so.

Or are you talking about how he could drop two sets at the same time? It's possible if you have 6+ cards, and you have multiple sets. You can use as many or as few of the possible sets, as long as you have less than 5 cards in your hand afterwards.

Or am I missing the problem?
It does show in the log when a player gets or plays spoils so you just have to count them, what the OP is saying is that they had 5 and didnt cash, which is not the case as they had 5 and cashed the previous round thus giving them 3 for the round in question.

Re: Something with spoils I don't understand

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:25 pm
by tonymontana123
I must have seen wrong and he had then probably 2 spoils at the beginning of his turn, but still, how is it possible then that, right in the middle of his turn, after attacking, he could once again turn spoils in and once again conquer territories?

Re: Something with spoils I don't understand

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:04 pm
by ljex
tonymontana123 wrote:I must have seen wrong and he had then probably 2 spoils at the beginning of his turn, but still, how is it possible then that, right in the middle of his turn, after attacking, he could once again turn spoils in and once again conquer territories?
Once you have 5+ spoils you are required to cash them even if it is the middle of a round. This is how escalating often works, eliminate people for their cards cash then kill the next person with the troops you get from cashing in the middle of the round.

Re: Something with spoils I don't understand

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:24 pm
by SirSebstar
there is one other way to start a turn with more then 5 cards. kill a player so you get above 5, do nothing and your turn will end but you will still have the cards. pretty useless but doable.