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Support life!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:11 am
by Semigall
http://www.worldcongress.pl/un/?lang_un=en


Basically, it's a pro-life & anti-abortion petition, but it's big and it will go to UN :)

Read the text in above link for details :)

Re: Support life!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:17 am
by Snorri1234
No.

Re: Support life!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:20 am
by MeDeFe
It's discriminatory against people who have sexual preferences deviant from the more recent historical norms, makes huge assumptions about what is and isn't "natural", and doesn't mention the right of every child not to be educated by their parents.

Sorry, but I won't sign that.

Re: Support life!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:28 am
by joecoolfrog
Shove it up your arse :D

Re: Support life!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:40 am
by Dancing Mustard
What a poorly drafted, ill concieved and bigoted little document. Fold it up and stick it down your penis, sir.


It has been a pleasure to have known you, now I bid you good day.

Re: Support life!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:45 am
by nesterdude
MeDeFe wrote:It's discriminatory against people who have sexual preferences deviant from the more recent historical norms, makes huge assumptions about what is and isn't "natural", and doesn't mention the right of every child not to be educated by their parents.

Sorry, but I won't sign that.
Every attempt at trying to use the English language to try and sound intelligent and elegant just failed here.
Please refrain from Freshman year usage.

Re: Support life!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:16 am
by Dancing Mustard
nesterdude wrote:Every attempt at trying to use the English language to try and sound intelligent and elegant just failed here.
Please refrain from Freshman year usage.
What on Earth are you talking about? MeDeFe's post was immaculately worded.

Might I suggest that the problem lies with your domonstrably limited comprehension skills and deeply opinionated viewpoint, rather than with the literary abilities of the writer to whom you were responding?

Re: Support life!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:36 am
by Johnny Rockets
Yeah, The planet needs more mouths to feed.

Every God Damned one of us should be reversably sterilized at birth, until we can prove via fiscal resposibility, obtained education, and moral merit that we have earned the privillage of bringing up a child. Too many kids having kids and fucking them up because of anti abortionist mackrel snapper close minded shits who think they have a calling to perpetuate child poverty and abuse laden enviroments.

Wrap your petition around an iron spike and shove it.

( And if you think the U.N. is an effective place to petition anything your delusional.)

JR

Wood Chipping 4 idiots a day......and rising.

Re: Support life!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:39 am
by StiffMittens
From the linked petition:
...each child having the right to be conceived...
What? So by abstaining from sex, every good Christian teenager is denying the rights of multitudes of potential humans, right?
The right of every child to be educated by his or her parents...
What about the right of every child to receive a thorough and broad education so that they can grow up to make truly informed decisions based on a rich understanding of reality? What about the right of every child to go through a shared socialization process with their peers so that they grow up being able to understand each other better?

I mean do you truly think it's fine for me to teach my children that Christians are subhuman and should be slaughtered and eaten?
The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society...
How do you define the family? Just parents and children, or do grandparents belong to the family? What about uncles, aunts, cousins, nephews and nieces? What about second-cousins? Where do you draw the line? Now according to Christian tradition aren't all humans descended from the two original people (Adam and Eve), and wouldn't that make every living human a member of the same family?

Re: Support life!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:49 am
by jonesthecurl
joecoolfrog wrote:Shove it up your arse :D

but first fold it until it's all corners.

Re: Support life!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:21 pm
by PLAYER57832
Semigall wrote:http://www.worldcongress.pl/un/?lang_un=en


Basically, it's a pro-life & anti-abortion petition, but it's big and it will go to UN :)

Read the text in above link for details :)
First, you should know that "abortion" often includes removal of a MISCARRIED (dead) child. There generally is no legal distinction prior to birth, only after. So, this nice, neat law will mean that thousands of women will have to endure something far differant from a sanitary hospital process. In many cases putting in danger their ability to have additional children. Losing a child is hard enough without having to deal with this sort of idiocy!

As for true abortions, if you really want to reduce them, stop poverty. Forcing these laws on people who don't share your circumstance, don't have anything close to your priviliages and don't happen to share your personnal values does not solve anything.

This is bad enough when put forward in the U.S, but internationally? Pregnancy is often used as a means of domination and subjugation of women. Many women have NO access to any sort of birth control OR education. GIRLS as young as 10 and 12 are commonly impregnated. Women who literally cannot feed the children they have have no options. These are not places even with nice, safe orphanages or any such option readily available. In many cases another child really and truly DOES mean that the mother has to choose which child she will feed. Ironically, an abortion is often easier to obtain than brith control.
Italy, for example has had very high rates of abortions.

Look at pictures of how some of these kids really live and THEN try to claim they are better off born.

Look at the rates of deaths in childbirth AND from incompetant abortions and THEN try to say this will improve things.

Do you know who cheered when abortions were made legal? NURSES! Nurses who saw the results when women are not given a safe alternative. NO ONE but the insane "like" abortion, but if you want women to have their children, you need to make sure they have the ability, education and FREEDOM to have them and raise them well.

Re: Support life!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:42 pm
by Night Strike
Just because the topic is anti-abortion doesn't mean you all are allowed to flame each other.

Locked.