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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby greenoaks on Thu May 02, 2013 9:03 am

Armandolas wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
EddieMay wrote:Very poor judgement by whoever decided to make this change. Changes should always be tested prior to implementation. This change caused radical problems with Bob so that it is basically unusable until it is corrected. The change should be deleted until it can be made without such disastrous results. The little dialog box that says click again needs a better position than on top of the region button where it interferes with clicking.

This effects so many players that something should be done immediately to reinstate Bob functionality and a universal PM to all players letting us know when it is fixed.

Thank you,

eddiemay

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Bob is not Conquer Club.


Not its not, but then check bold and underlined...

omg, a free third-party add-on is not working.

how dare someone not devote their spare time to fix this immediately for us.
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby Armandolas on Thu May 02, 2013 9:41 am

Its not about being dramatic.
Even if its a third party add-on, its developed for CC and take an important role on many people gameplay. Just because its not CC default it should not be forgotten.
Also, u keep on forgeting, thats not about the addon, its about the people who plays CC with the tool.
I dont have Bob broken, but i understand the frustration of those who do
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby IcePack on Thu May 02, 2013 9:59 am

greenoaks wrote:
Armandolas wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
EddieMay wrote:Very poor judgement by whoever decided to make this change. Changes should always be tested prior to implementation. This change caused radical problems with Bob so that it is basically unusable until it is corrected. The change should be deleted until it can be made without such disastrous results. The little dialog box that says click again needs a better position than on top of the region button where it interferes with clicking.

This effects so many players that something should be done immediately to reinstate Bob functionality and a universal PM to all players letting us know when it is fixed.

Thank you,

eddiemay

Breaking News


Bob is not Conquer Club.


Not its not, but then check bold and underlined...

omg, a free third-party add-on is not working.

how dare someone not devote their spare time to fix this immediately for us.


Conquer Club is still a business last I checked, and if that the attitude they move forward with its very, very short sighted when it affects such a large % of paying active customers (something that's been dropping for awhile now). Ignoring this problem will only encourage those considering leaving to quicken their departure.

Third party or not, it does AFFECT their customers and website and unless they are totally ignorant they need to pay attention and take care of their customers, or somebody else will.
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby NoSurvivors on Thu May 02, 2013 10:25 am

Though BOB is useful, I think people are being a bit dramatic over it.. if you don't know the map, why are you playing it? Snapshots? I don't use em, and I still do well. Therefore; stop whining like a bunch of little girls (no offense to the little girls on the site if there are any lol), and wait a while. It will be changed back. You just have to have this thing called "patience"..
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby rjhankey on Thu May 02, 2013 11:22 am

BOB is used quite a bit in team games as a way of sharing the view of the map between teammate turns, that's probably the largest use of it. There are times when I use it to check an attack path, if I can't see clearly on the screen -- some maps are more challenging than others to see the paths, and there are times it comes in handy when learning a map you're not familiar with. If only people who knew a map played them, we'd never have maps clear the Beta phase as nobody would be playing games on them.

That aside, I think I may have stumbled on to a "workaround" ... changing the BOB setting to move the chat to the top seems to have repositioned the popups so they don't interfere with the clickable maps functionality. It's taking a little getting used to, but I think I could get accustomed to having the chat as the first thing I see on the game/map page. Seems to be working in my regular games and in the tournament games.
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby Butters1919 on Thu May 02, 2013 11:52 am

patrickaa317 wrote:
rdsrds2120 wrote:
Butters1919 wrote:
rdsrds2120 wrote:Which medals update are you speaking of, besides the all-known forum appearance glitch?BMO


That and the fact that they are referred to as both platinum (in most places) and diamond (in others).


Hmm...I thought those were fixed! The Medal Stats page refers to them as Platinum, and so does the hover text.Old medals before we switched to Platinum instead of naming them diamond will result in award details for that timeframe listed as Diamond.

Can you isolate where they still say Diamond?

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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby IcePack on Thu May 02, 2013 12:35 pm

NoSurvivors wrote:Though BOB is useful, I think people are being a bit dramatic over it.. if you don't know the map, why are you playing it? Snapshots? I don't use em, and I still do well. Therefore; stop whining like a bunch of little girls (no offense to the little girls on the site if there are any lol), and wait a while. It will be changed back. You just have to have this thing called "patience"..


This has nothing to do with attack paths / not knowing the maps or snapshots.
You can't click on the map to assault / reinforce you've got to use the stupid drop downs.
So before you insult everybody, maybe try to understand the complaint first...
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby spiesr on Thu May 02, 2013 12:40 pm

IcePack wrote:
NoSurvivors wrote:Though BOB is useful, I think people are being a bit dramatic over it.. if you don't know the map, why are you playing it? Snapshots? I don't use em, and I still do well. Therefore; stop whining like a bunch of little girls (no offense to the little girls on the site if there are any lol), and wait a while. It will be changed back. You just have to have this thing called "patience"..
This has nothing to do with attack paths / not knowing the maps or snapshots.
You can't click on the map to assault / reinforce you've got to use the stupid drop downs.
So before you insult everybody, maybe try to understand the complaint first...
If you turn BOB off you can click the map successfully...
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby IcePack on Thu May 02, 2013 1:47 pm

spiesr wrote:
IcePack wrote:
NoSurvivors wrote:Though BOB is useful, I think people are being a bit dramatic over it.. if you don't know the map, why are you playing it? Snapshots? I don't use em, and I still do well. Therefore; stop whining like a bunch of little girls (no offense to the little girls on the site if there are any lol), and wait a while. It will be changed back. You just have to have this thing called "patience"..
This has nothing to do with attack paths / not knowing the maps or snapshots.
You can't click on the map to assault / reinforce you've got to use the stupid drop downs.
So before you insult everybody, maybe try to understand the complaint first...
If you turn BOB off you can click the map successfully...


Yes, I'm aware and thats what I'm doing. But for players (IE customers) who have large number of fog games and have to keep turning on and off in order to get snaps and can't click on things / using the drop down....there is generally only so much patience before it gets really, really annoying when it could have been easily prevented.
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby Gilligan on Thu May 02, 2013 1:51 pm

Butters1919 wrote:
and here:

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rds has said that this is unchangeable.
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby Butters1919 on Thu May 02, 2013 2:04 pm

Gilligan wrote:
Butters1919 wrote:
and here:

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rds has said that this is unchangeable.


That's unfortunate. Then why not change the name of the medals to diamond for consistency?
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby Gilligan on Thu May 02, 2013 2:12 pm

Butters1919 wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
Butters1919 wrote:
and here:

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rds has said that this is unchangeable.


That's unfortunate. Then why not change the name of the medals to diamond for consistency?


Yeah, it is unfortunate.

I can't answer that question. :)
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby greenoaks on Thu May 02, 2013 5:29 pm

IcePack wrote:
spiesr wrote:
IcePack wrote:
NoSurvivors wrote:Though BOB is useful, I think people are being a bit dramatic over it.. if you don't know the map, why are you playing it? Snapshots? I don't use em, and I still do well. Therefore; stop whining like a bunch of little girls (no offense to the little girls on the site if there are any lol), and wait a while. It will be changed back. You just have to have this thing called "patience"..
This has nothing to do with attack paths / not knowing the maps or snapshots.
You can't click on the map to assault / reinforce you've got to use the stupid drop downs.
So before you insult everybody, maybe try to understand the complaint first...
If you turn BOB off you can click the map successfully...


Yes, I'm aware and thats what I'm doing. But for players (IE customers) who have large number of fog games and have to keep turning on and off in order to get snaps and can't click on things / using the drop down....there is generally only so much patience before it gets really, really annoying when it could have been easily prevented.

Are you suggesting CC take BOB inhouse to ensure it gets updated & functionality is compatable with site changes?
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby IcePack on Thu May 02, 2013 6:58 pm

greenoaks wrote:
IcePack wrote:
spiesr wrote:
IcePack wrote:
NoSurvivors wrote:Though BOB is useful, I think people are being a bit dramatic over it.. if you don't know the map, why are you playing it? Snapshots? I don't use em, and I still do well. Therefore; stop whining like a bunch of little girls (no offense to the little girls on the site if there are any lol), and wait a while. It will be changed back. You just have to have this thing called "patience"..
This has nothing to do with attack paths / not knowing the maps or snapshots.
You can't click on the map to assault / reinforce you've got to use the stupid drop downs.
So before you insult everybody, maybe try to understand the complaint first...
If you turn BOB off you can click the map successfully...


Yes, I'm aware and thats what I'm doing. But for players (IE customers) who have large number of fog games and have to keep turning on and off in order to get snaps and can't click on things / using the drop down....there is generally only so much patience before it gets really, really annoying when it could have been easily prevented.

Are you suggesting CC take BOB inhouse to ensure it gets updated & functionality is compatable with site changes?


Not necessarily,, there are plenty of options to avoid this.

1) make bob in house (not desired)
2) work with add on developers on updates
3) use add ons in test site to notice this ahead of time and notify only specific developers that are needed to fix (again efore hand)
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby Woodruff on Thu May 02, 2013 8:16 pm

Armandolas wrote:Its not about being dramatic.
Even if its a third party add-on, its developed for CC and take an important role on many people gameplay. Just because its not CC default it should not be forgotten.
Also, u keep on forgeting, thats not about the addon, its about the people who plays CC with the tool.
I dont have Bob broken, but i understand the frustration of those who do


I would suggest that it is the responsibility of the third-party add-on developer to fix the problem, rather than that of the ConquerClub developers.
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby denominator on Thu May 02, 2013 8:18 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Armandolas wrote:Its not about being dramatic.
Even if its a third party add-on, its developed for CC and take an important role on many people gameplay. Just because its not CC default it should not be forgotten.
Also, u keep on forgeting, thats not about the addon, its about the people who plays CC with the tool.
I dont have Bob broken, but i understand the frustration of those who do


I would suggest that it is the responsibility of the third-party add-on developer to fix the problem, rather than that of the ConquerClub developers.


Agreed. I think that all that is being asked for here is that the add-on developers be notified of changes like this ahead of time so that they can adjust the scripts before they are broken.
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby patrickaa317 on Thu May 02, 2013 10:52 pm

IcePack wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
IcePack wrote:
spiesr wrote:
IcePack wrote:This has nothing to do with attack paths / not knowing the maps or snapshots.
You can't click on the map to assault / reinforce you've got to use the stupid drop downs.
So before you insult everybody, maybe try to understand the complaint first...
If you turn BOB off you can click the map successfully...


Yes, I'm aware and thats what I'm doing. But for players (IE customers) who have large number of fog games and have to keep turning on and off in order to get snaps and can't click on things / using the drop down....there is generally only so much patience before it gets really, really annoying when it could have been easily prevented.

Are you suggesting CC take BOB inhouse to ensure it gets updated & functionality is compatable with site changes?


Not necessarily,, there are plenty of options to avoid this.

1) make bob in house (not desired)
2) work with add on developers on updates
3) use add ons in test site to notice this ahead of time and notify only specific developers that are needed to fix (again efore hand)


Icepack - Seriously. Can you stop using common sense and logic when discussing in the forums? You really want a business to care about their customers? What kind of capitalistic person are you where a delivered good is based on customer wants?

Also, why does it seem as though the non-BOB users almost enjoy when it becomes unusable?
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby greenoaks on Fri May 03, 2013 4:55 am

patrickaa317 wrote:
IcePack wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
IcePack wrote:
spiesr wrote:
IcePack wrote:This has nothing to do with attack paths / not knowing the maps or snapshots.
You can't click on the map to assault / reinforce you've got to use the stupid drop downs.
So before you insult everybody, maybe try to understand the complaint first...
If you turn BOB off you can click the map successfully...


Yes, I'm aware and thats what I'm doing. But for players (IE customers) who have large number of fog games and have to keep turning on and off in order to get snaps and can't click on things / using the drop down....there is generally only so much patience before it gets really, really annoying when it could have been easily prevented.

Are you suggesting CC take BOB inhouse to ensure it gets updated & functionality is compatable with site changes?


Not necessarily,, there are plenty of options to avoid this.

1) make bob in house (not desired)
2) work with add on developers on updates
3) use add ons in test site to notice this ahead of time and notify only specific developers that are needed to fix (again efore hand)


Icepack - Seriously. Can you stop using common sense and logic when discussing in the forums? You really want a business to care about their customers? What kind of capitalistic person are you where a delivered good is based on customer wants?

Also, why does it seem as though the non-BOB users almost enjoy when it becomes unusable?

for the same reason Funniest Home Videos is a hit.
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby NoSurvivors on Fri May 03, 2013 6:36 am

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NoSurvivors wrote:Though BOB is useful, I think people are being a bit dramatic over it.. if you don't know the map, why are you playing it? Snapshots? I don't use em, and I still do well. Therefore; stop whining like a bunch of little girls (no offense to the little girls on the site if there are any lol), and wait a while. It will be changed back. You just have to have this thing called "patience"..


This has nothing to do with attack paths / not knowing the maps or snapshots.
You can't click on the map to assault / reinforce you've got to use the stupid drop downs.
So before you insult everybody, maybe try to understand the complaint first...


Lol my clicking the maps (and yes, I have BOB) works fine, so I don't understand you.. maybe you should look to see the logic behind "waiting". They will fix it eventually. Be patient.. :roll:
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby Big Whiskey on Fri May 03, 2013 7:08 pm

As asked a few pages ago,any chance of putting the snapshots back on top of all maps?
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby greenoaks on Fri May 03, 2013 8:02 pm

Big Whiskey wrote:As asked a few pages ago,any chance of putting the snapshots back on top of all maps?

what does that have to do with Conquer Club? last time i checked that was a third-party script.
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby patrickaa317 on Fri May 03, 2013 11:02 pm

greenoaks wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
IcePack wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
IcePack wrote:
spiesr wrote:If you turn BOB off you can click the map successfully...


Yes, I'm aware and thats what I'm doing. But for players (IE customers) who have large number of fog games and have to keep turning on and off in order to get snaps and can't click on things / using the drop down....there is generally only so much patience before it gets really, really annoying when it could have been easily prevented.

Are you suggesting CC take BOB inhouse to ensure it gets updated & functionality is compatable with site changes?


Not necessarily,, there are plenty of options to avoid this.

1) make bob in house (not desired)
2) work with add on developers on updates
3) use add ons in test site to notice this ahead of time and notify only specific developers that are needed to fix (again efore hand)


Icepack - Seriously. Can you stop using common sense and logic when discussing in the forums? You really want a business to care about their customers? What kind of capitalistic person are you where a delivered good is based on customer wants?

Also, why does it seem as though the non-BOB users almost enjoy when it becomes unusable?

for the same reason Funniest Home Videos is a hit.


Because the majority of viewers like watching people get hit in the nuts? Reminds me of Idiocracy with the "Ow my balls" show.
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby IcePack on Sat May 04, 2013 9:08 am

greenoaks wrote:
Big Whiskey wrote:As asked a few pages ago,any chance of putting the snapshots back on top of all maps?

what does that have to do with Conquer Club? last time i checked that was a third-party script.


It has to do with their customer experience.
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby greenoaks on Sat May 04, 2013 9:11 am

IcePack wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
Big Whiskey wrote:As asked a few pages ago,any chance of putting the snapshots back on top of all maps?

what does that have to do with Conquer Club? last time i checked that was a third-party script.


It has to do with their customer experience.

then take your concerns to the manufacturer of the product. CC does not control, produce or design BOB.
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Re: Update Tracking Thread

Postby IcePack on Sat May 04, 2013 9:19 am

greenoaks wrote:
IcePack wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
Big Whiskey wrote:As asked a few pages ago,any chance of putting the snapshots back on top of all maps?

what does that have to do with Conquer Club? last time i checked that was a third-party script.


It has to do with their customer experience.

then take your concerns to the manufacturer of the product. CC does not control, produce or design BOB.


Again, thats very short sided position to take.
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