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Postby oaktown on Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:34 pm

since I've left the Mapmaker's Guide post locked, this thread is for comments. It is obviously unfinished - there's at least one entire chapter missing - and other things require work. There are far more terms and definitions that should be included (feel free to suggest some) and I'd like to reorganize the XML section. But feedback will help drive the process,so please have at it!

If you can't find the guide, it's here:
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Re: Mapmaker's Guide (above) post comments here

Postby the.killing.44 on Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:43 pm

=D> Announcement? It'd be viewed more there, I believe.

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Re: Mapmaker's Guide (above) post comments here

Postby oaktown on Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:06 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:=D> Announcement? It'd be viewed more there, I believe.

I don't think it's quite announcement-ready... too many holes. We started it months ago and let it sit on the shelf all this time, so the fact that it is seeing the light of day is a big step.
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Postby mibi on Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:34 am

maybe you should note that if you don't want to do the xml, there are people willing to do it.
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Postby tlane on Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:53 am

mibi wrote:maybe you should note that if you don't want to do the xml, there are people willing to do it.

that sounds like a good idea, and maybe you could pm people and ask if you could put there names up, as examples of people who can do xml.

great job =D>
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Postby yeti_c on Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:06 am

tlane wrote:
mibi wrote:maybe you should note that if you don't want to do the xml, there are people willing to do it.

that sounds like a good idea, and maybe you could pm people and ask if you could put there names up, as examples of people who can do xml.

great job =D>


Don't do that.

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Postby cairnswk on Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:48 pm

oaktown, because i believe centering is part of the xml process. I'd like to see something about having to have two images Large and Small of the xml centered with the standard "88" numbers as part of the process BEFORE the xml stamp is issued.
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Re: Mapmaker's Guide (above) post comments here

Postby oaktown on Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:51 pm

cairnswk wrote:oaktown, because i believe centering is part of the xml process. I'd like to see something about having to have two images Large and Small of the xml centered with the standard "88" numbers as part of the process BEFORE the xml stamp is issued.

good catch... i hadn't really done much with the XML chapter other than copy/format the old XML guides, which never discussed army coordinates.

The XML section needs a lot of work, including descriptions of the various tools available.
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Postby the.killing.44 on Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:47 pm

As an addendum to cairns's comment, include that images with 888s are also necessary.
And a typo:
Also important is that if you put continents inside of continents you must but the inner continent by itself before the continent(s) you put it inside.


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Re: Mapmaker's Guide (above) post comments here

Postby tlane on Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:06 pm

I am guessing this is implied by
oaktown wrote:We started it months ago and let it sit on the shelf all this time,

but some of the names of the forums have changed, like foundry discussion and now there is a viewing gallery

just pointing it out
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Postby WidowMakers on Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:09 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:As an addendum to cairns's comment, include that images with 888s are also necessary.
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Actually they are only necessary when the map is very crowded. If there is a possible overlap of names, borders or other "88", then the "888" test is required. It is on a map by map basis.

For instance I don't remember having to do "888" for the USA map pack, but I did need to do them for Midgard.
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Postby the.killing.44 on Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:13 pm

Well, that's what I get for listening to qwert :P .
qwert wrote:
888 needed?

Yes you must provide images who will show how 3 digit numbers standing on map. These is some old rule in MAp production. If they look good then you are very close to get XML stamp.

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Postby MrBenn on Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:38 pm

WidowMakers wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:As an addendum to cairns's comment, include that images with 888s are also necessary.
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Actually they are only necessary when the map is very crowded. If there is a possible overlap of names, borders or other "88", then the "888" test is required. It is on a map by map basis.

For instance I don't remember having to do "888" for the USA map pack, but I did need to do them for Midgard.

I always thought that 888s were required before Andy would quench a map?
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Re: Mapmaker's Guide (above) post comments here

Postby oaktown on Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:46 pm

suffice it to say that three digit numbers should be able to fit on a map without any clarity issues. I tend to check when I'm doing the army coordinates, so unless it is questionable I won't require mapmakers to post the image.

Let's just say it's good form to do so... but not expressly required.
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Re: Mapmaker's Guide (above) post comments here

Postby sailorseal on Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:42 pm

yeti_c wrote:
tlane wrote:
mibi wrote:maybe you should note that if you don't want to do the xml, there are people willing to do it.

that sounds like a good idea, and maybe you could pm people and ask if you could put there names up, as examples of people who can do xml.

great job =D>


Don't do that.

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yeti has enough people asking him without publicity :lol:
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