pmchugh wrote:Votanic wrote:Kingm wrote:Extreme Ways wrote:It takes 8 to end the day by means of vote. If day ends earlier due to mod discretion (announced ~a week in advance), then the most voted option happens.
Regarding that, will you soon announce something or are we about to have a D1 that last for a month?
Because to me it feels like this has already been going for weeks, but I see it "only" has been 8 days so far, so I'm clearly delusional.
A week in advance? This may become the longest Day 1 ever...
But let's not kid ourselves.
With the votes spread out all over like nutella on toast, the lynch might well be the work of a single sly player (
not necessarily scum ...but probably scum)
Yes indeed, it could take only
one, crafty player swooping in at the last minute to add his tie-breaking vote to the lynch of his choice...
I've bid on ebay auctions, I know how that works.
This stuff is good though, we want it to be on a knife edge where you have people making decisions that really matter, because then you learn much more about them than if they are under no pressure.
This.
Kingm wrote:pmchugh wrote:Votanic wrote:Kingm wrote:Extreme Ways wrote:It takes 8 to end the day by means of vote. If day ends earlier due to mod discretion (announced ~a week in advance), then the most voted option happens.
Regarding that, will you soon announce something or are we about to have a D1 that last for a month?
Because to me it feels like this has already been going for weeks, but I see it "only" has been 8 days so far, so I'm clearly delusional.
A week in advance? This may become the longest Day 1 ever...
But let's not kid ourselves.
With the votes spread out all over like nutella on toast, the lynch might well be the work of a single sly player (
not necessarily scum ...but probably scum)
Yes indeed, it could take only
one, crafty player swooping in at the last minute to add his tie-breaking vote to the lynch of his choice...
I've bid on ebay auctions, I know how that works.
This stuff is good though, we want it to be on a knife edge where you have people making decisions that really matter, because then you learn much more about them than if they are under no pressure.
Yeah PMC, this is exactly the same thoughts I had, thats why I want the "clock" to start, so the scums start to feel the pressure, and tries their best to get us to lynch a townie, so they get numbers to 10v3 for D2.
The time now before the clock starts feels a bit wasted to atleast me, don't think we will get much more feel for who is town and who is scum before we either gets some info from N1 or people is forced to vote etc. from starting the clock. Atleast thats my 2 cents
This is generally why I am against setting sights on no lynch early D1. IMO, D1 doesn't have to end in a lynch but if everyone assumes that it is going to, then there is no pressure on anyone and we learn little. Especially in a game like this where we're not likely to have much information come from N1 actions. I also feel we are kind of overdue to have a lynch result come out of D1. I think each of at least the last 5 games has resulted in No Lynch and that has definitely become the overwhelming trend recently in CC Mafia. So I really do think a lynch today to remind everyone that D1 lynches can happen would be a good thing. Ultimately, D1 cases have advantages because scum is more likely to slip up under pressure and even in the admittedly likely scenario of an early mislynch, it can be used to analyze behavior and voting patterns later on.
On that note, I'm sticking to my Dev vote. His latest post didn't sway me and I don't buy PMC's counter-argument about his VT slip being newbie town as more likely than newbie scum. A scum slipping in that they're a VT claim day 1 is indeed probably not something that's happened too often in the past but Scum trying to establish an early alibi for their later fake claim is definitely something that's happened quite often.
Also, just remembered I never got around to addressing Fusi's long post and I'm probably not going to go over the full thing right now but I do disagree with him on the idea of leaving helpful players alone D1. Most of those helpful players are also ones that I would say are more experienced players who would also be difficult to catch as scum. So when they say something odd, like PMC posting a vibe list before multiple players even posted, they should at least be questioned.