Matrix Mafia Endgame, Town and Survivors win!

[betiko]

nice list, hippo. from that I can see that betiko and neb are tied with most votes, so I will SPLIT VOTE BETIKO, NEB (1/2 vote on betiko, 1/2 vote on neb)

Y U vote so much?

-SG7 ( )

First, great job to hippo, and we were all complaining about his lack of contribution..

someone like ghostly that still didn't sow up, never voted, never fossed; basically is by far the most inactive in the game is still not showing up? FOS again!!

SG7, call it omgus all you want, but I have a weird feeling about you. I don't know, it's really nothing, and i didn't bring it up yet because i was waiting for other things from you:

crash.. lost our vig. we still have a fighting chance. not too keen on night flavor as I only watched the first movie.

It's nothing in particular, it was just the timing, quite a few pages after the scene and emphocizing on the lost vig after the flavour conversations caught my attention.. that made it sound like a bad actor. "ohh nooo this is too bad!! we lost our vig!!" it really sounded like someone trying too hard for me at that momentum of the game. Since you are always scummy in every single game and often scum, I like my odds going after you. also, like you think I vote too much, I'll just do you a favour and vote again, if you think that was a point.

vote SG7!!

[jonty125]

FOS SG7, for still joking and we're now in D3.

[edocsil]

FOS SG7, for still joking and we're now in D3.

^^^ I don't get why the joke now. It's too late in the game.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

On the reread up to page 49, it looks like town did make a logical decision on day 1 lynch even though it did turn up town.

Hippo still doesn't make sense

Freezie was trying to fly under the radar, but evidently got the attention of somebody at night seeing how he was n1 killed and actually was a power role.

Daza seemed a bit suspicious to me, but can't quite say why while several people at various points also though Jonty was being a bit of a sheep

[soundman]

Ghostly and Dazza are both on my radar. Ghostly last posted on the 15th asking a question and saying he's almost read up.

Guys I am read up just about. I have never seen the matrix though so I do have one question. Are the twins both good, both bad, or does one go against the other? I am just getting some background info.

Yet he hasn't said a thing since. You caught up yet, Ghostly? And to answer your question they were both bad.

Dazza hasn't posted since the 4th. That's thirteen days ago. Here's his last post from the beginning of Day Two.

Nope, hopefully someone got some info. A night action would be good for once v.v ~Is hated by all the mods~

Hmm, I wonder though, the first part of the scene says they got away, so either Doc saved him/her or killer was roleblocked.

Any ideas for a lead?

Could be a roleblock or a doc save. I can't really tell from the scene.

Other than this one post at the beginning of Day Two commenting on the scene he hasn't uttered a word. Vote Dazza.

[edocsil]

Ghostly and Dazza are both on my radar. Ghostly last posted on the 15th asking a question and saying he's almost read up.

Guys I am read up just about. I have never seen the matrix though so I do have one question. Are the twins both good, both bad, or does one go against the other? I am just getting some background info.

Yet he hasn't said a thing since. You caught up yet, Ghostly? And to answer your question they were both bad.

Dazza hasn't posted since the 4th. That's thirteen days ago. Here's his last post from the beginning of Day Two.

Nope, hopefully someone got some info. A night action would be good for once v.v ~Is hated by all the mods~

Hmm, I wonder though, the first part of the scene says they got away, so either Doc saved him/her or killer was roleblocked.

Any ideas for a lead?

Could be a roleblock or a doc save. I can't really tell from the scene.

Other than this one post at the beginning of Day Two commenting on the scene he hasn't uttered a word. Vote Dazza.

In the last matrix mafia, the Merovingian and his programs were not bad guys. As the previous Merovingian I feel obligated to point that out.

[safariguy5]

Vote Count

clever(4)- doom, neb, leehar, jak, dj
sg7(1)- betiko
dazza(1)- soundman

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

[thechuck51]

Vote Count

clever(4)- doom, neb, leehar, jak, dj
sg7(1)- betiko
dazza(1)- soundman

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Saf, I voted dazza a page or so back.

[soundman]

Ghostly and Dazza are both on my radar. Ghostly last posted on the 15th asking a question and saying he's almost read up.

Guys I am read up just about. I have never seen the matrix though so I do have one question. Are the twins both good, both bad, or does one go against the other? I am just getting some background info.

Yet he hasn't said a thing since. You caught up yet, Ghostly? And to answer your question they were both bad.

Dazza hasn't posted since the 4th. That's thirteen days ago. Here's his last post from the beginning of Day Two.

Nope, hopefully someone got some info. A night action would be good for once v.v ~Is hated by all the mods~

Hmm, I wonder though, the first part of the scene says they got away, so either Doc saved him/her or killer was roleblocked.

Any ideas for a lead?

Could be a roleblock or a doc save. I can't really tell from the scene.

Other than this one post at the beginning of Day Two commenting on the scene he hasn't uttered a word. Vote Dazza.

In the last matrix mafia, the Merovingian and his programs were not bad guys. As the previous Merovingian I feel obligated to point that out.

Ok then. They could be good guys. From what I remember from the movie (and Google) I thought they were bad.

[safariguy5]

Vote Count

clever(4)- doom, neb, leehar, jak, dj
sg7(1)- betiko
dazza(2)- soundman, chuck

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

[jak111]

lol ya do i really have to read that?

Yea, you really do. You're being voted for by multiple people and it doesn't really help if you ignore what people post for information wise, whether it's good or bad.

[betiko]

Vote Count

clever(4)- doom, neb, leehar, jak, dj
sg7(1)- betiko
dazza(2)- soundman, chuck

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

and that would be 5 for clever, +sg7's split vote.. i don't know what you're supposed to do with it.

regarding the twins, they clearly chase neo and trinity, and to tell the truth i don't really remember their motivations in that movie... what did merovingien want from them? also isn't there monica belluci that betrays lambert wilson (merovingien) to help neo at some point?
the first movie was excellent, the 2 and 3 were a bit crap, mostly the 3 so i don't remember everything. can't believe so many people haven't seen the 1st one though! such a classic!

[Leehar]

the first movie was excellent, the 2 and 3 were a bit crap, mostly the 3 so i don't remember everything. can't believe so many people haven't seen the 1st one though! such a classic!

Bullet-time! oh wait

Ghostly and Dazza are both on my radar. Ghostly last posted on the 15th asking a question and saying he's almost read up.

Guys I am read up just about. I have never seen the matrix though so I do have one question. Are the twins both good, both bad, or does one go against the other? I am just getting some background info.

Yet he hasn't said a thing since. You caught up yet, Ghostly? And to answer your question they were both bad.

Dazza hasn't posted since the 4th. That's thirteen days ago. Here's his last post from the beginning of Day Two.

Nope, hopefully someone got some info. A night action would be good for once v.v ~Is hated by all the mods~

Hmm, I wonder though, the first part of the scene says they got away, so either Doc saved him/her or killer was roleblocked.

Any ideas for a lead?

Could be a roleblock or a doc save. I can't really tell from the scene.

Other than this one post at the beginning of Day Two commenting on the scene he hasn't uttered a word. Vote Dazza.

I'm not really opposed to it, but we're still on inactive-hunting then?

[thehippo8]

the first movie was excellent, the 2 and 3 were a bit crap, mostly the 3 so i don't remember everything. can't believe so many people haven't seen the 1st one though! such a classic!

Bullet-time! oh wait

Ghostly and Dazza are both on my radar. Ghostly last posted on the 15th asking a question and saying he's almost read up.

Guys I am read up just about. I have never seen the matrix though so I do have one question. Are the twins both good, both bad, or does one go against the other? I am just getting some background info.

Yet he hasn't said a thing since. You caught up yet, Ghostly? And to answer your question they were both bad.

Dazza hasn't posted since the 4th. That's thirteen days ago. Here's his last post from the beginning of Day Two.

Nope, hopefully someone got some info. A night action would be good for once v.v ~Is hated by all the mods~

Hmm, I wonder though, the first part of the scene says they got away, so either Doc saved him/her or killer was roleblocked.

Any ideas for a lead?

Could be a roleblock or a doc save. I can't really tell from the scene.

Other than this one post at the beginning of Day Two commenting on the scene he hasn't uttered a word. Vote Dazza.

I'm not really opposed to it, but we're still on inactive-hunting then?

I'm a bit dissapointed in this Leehar. Your flavour throughout this game has been one of someone who knows something and being disapproving of those who have voted for people who turned out to be town. To be behaving that way, apparently knowing something, then either you are full of it or your are not sharing. There's two ways you could know something. The first is that you are mafia and trying to act like town because you look great every time there is a town kill and you had disapproved of it. The second is that you have some special power, like town cop, and have investigated these people. If it is the former then you are in big trouble. If it is the latter then hiding this isn't helping town at day three. But inactive hunting when there is so much information available? Come on! I really need a clear answer from you on this Leehar because, refer my long-winded precise of the first two days, I was beginning to think that I had you all wrong and I whoudl have listened to you earlier. But hindsight is a perfect science. So, Leehar, time to speak up!

[thechuck51]

I'm not really opposed to it, but we're still on inactive-hunting then?

I made a case for voting Dazza last page but I feel like it has been missed by most people. It is more than just inactive-hunting. At the end of Day 1 freezie was voting Dazza, freezie then gets NK's Night 1. Maybe Dazza killed freezie because of that vote. That combined with his inactivity make him a good candidate. I know it isn't much of a case but at least its a starting point.

[thehippo8]

I'm not really opposed to it, but we're still on inactive-hunting then?

I made a case for voting Dazza last page but I feel like it has been missed by most people. It is more than just inactive-hunting. At the end of Day 1 freezie was voting Dazza, freezie then gets NK's Night 1. Maybe Dazza killed freezie because of that vote. That combined with his inactivity make him a good candidate. I know it isn't much of a case but at least its a starting point.

Fine point you make but I still want to hear from Leehar.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Sorry back from hospital, Wife having twins and some complications happening. Will try to bring Ipad with me next time.

As for the flavor of the kill, I do have to agree that based on the summaries that Mafia has failed both nights and that Smith is more than likely the two kills just based on the statements. Since mafia has failed both times I have been going back through trying to read between the lines to pull anyone who would have information on them. I will put a FOS Dazza based on somethings that I read but based on clevers points and how he has been brought up both D2 and D3 after mafia had been stumped and quickly tossed back into the fray leaves me believing someone has something on them so I will cast my vote that way

Vote Clever

FP: SG7

Really? You are voting the most voted people? With any reason? Im kinda confused on that action and have to read back up but

if someone has something on me they would have said it..if anyone saw me visit the dead person then say it. your voting on the fact that someone may or may not know something about me. makes no sense?

[betiko]

I'm not really opposed to it, but we're still on inactive-hunting then?

I made a case for voting Dazza last page but I feel like it has been missed by most people. It is more than just inactive-hunting. At the end of Day 1 freezie was voting Dazza, freezie then gets NK's Night 1. Maybe Dazza killed freezie because of that vote. That combined with his inactivity make him a good candidate. I know it isn't much of a case but at least its a starting point.

are you guys still forgeting that freezie wasn't killed on purpose??? you are just bringing this up again like lsu tiger. it was an accident after a bus drive. and we still don't know who was actually targeted by scums that night.

[thechuck51]

are you guys still forgeting that freezie wasn't killed on purpose??? you are just bringing this up again like lsu tiger. it was an accident after a bus drive. and we still don't know who was actually targeted by scums that night.

I did forget that. unvote

[dazza2008]

Sorry Saf I have got too far behind and I can't catch up. Could you replace me please?

[betiko]

Sorry Saf I have got too far behind and I can't catch up. Could you replace me please?

if you are replaced it will be much more for the future player to catch up...
anyway we could get cowboyz back in the game in this case? and he would have absolutely no possibilities of telling what he knows from his previous role?

[Leehar]

the first movie was excellent, the 2 and 3 were a bit crap, mostly the 3 so i don't remember everything. can't believe so many people haven't seen the 1st one though! such a classic!

Bullet-time! oh wait

Ghostly and Dazza are both on my radar. Ghostly last posted on the 15th asking a question and saying he's almost read up.

Guys I am read up just about. I have never seen the matrix though so I do have one question. Are the twins both good, both bad, or does one go against the other? I am just getting some background info.

Yet he hasn't said a thing since. You caught up yet, Ghostly? And to answer your question they were both bad.

Dazza hasn't posted since the 4th. That's thirteen days ago. Here's his last post from the beginning of Day Two.

Nope, hopefully someone got some info. A night action would be good for once v.v ~Is hated by all the mods~

Hmm, I wonder though, the first part of the scene says they got away, so either Doc saved him/her or killer was roleblocked.

Any ideas for a lead?

Could be a roleblock or a doc save. I can't really tell from the scene.

Other than this one post at the beginning of Day Two commenting on the scene he hasn't uttered a word. Vote Dazza.

I'm not really opposed to it, but we're still on inactive-hunting then?

I'm a bit dissapointed in this Leehar. Your flavour throughout this game has been one of someone who knows something and being disapproving of those who have voted for people who turned out to be town. To be behaving that way, apparently knowing something, then either you are full of it or your are not sharing. There's two ways you could know something. The first is that you are mafia and trying to act like town because you look great every time there is a town kill and you had disapproved of it. The second is that you have some special power, like town cop, and have investigated these people. If it is the former then you are in big trouble. If it is the latter then hiding this isn't helping town at day three. But inactive hunting when there is so much information available? Come on! I really need a clear answer from you on this Leehar because, refer my long-winded precise of the first two days, I was beginning to think that I had you all wrong and I whoudl have listened to you earlier. But hindsight is a perfect science. So, Leehar, time to speak up!

I have no clue what you're potting on, and if you'd like to hear from me it'd be better if you asked at a time other than 4am...
If you have issue with me perhaps not voting for the last 2 lynches in eldario and skill, it's purely because I saw no reason to believe they were scum and just didn't feel comfortable voting for them.

I'm mostly surprised at how you got me fos'ing so many people tho

[jonty125]

the first movie was excellent, the 2 and 3 were a bit crap, mostly the 3 so i don't remember everything. can't believe so many people haven't seen the 1st one though! such a classic!

Bullet-time! oh wait

Ghostly and Dazza are both on my radar. Ghostly last posted on the 15th asking a question and saying he's almost read up.

Guys I am read up just about. I have never seen the matrix though so I do have one question. Are the twins both good, both bad, or does one go against the other? I am just getting some background info.

Yet he hasn't said a thing since. You caught up yet, Ghostly? And to answer your question they were both bad.

Dazza hasn't posted since the 4th. That's thirteen days ago. Here's his last post from the beginning of Day Two.

Nope, hopefully someone got some info. A night action would be good for once v.v ~Is hated by all the mods~

Hmm, I wonder though, the first part of the scene says they got away, so either Doc saved him/her or killer was roleblocked.

Any ideas for a lead?

Could be a roleblock or a doc save. I can't really tell from the scene.

Other than this one post at the beginning of Day Two commenting on the scene he hasn't uttered a word. Vote Dazza.

I'm not really opposed to it, but we're still on inactive-hunting then?

I'm a bit dissapointed in this Leehar. Your flavour throughout this game has been one of someone who knows something and being disapproving of those who have voted for people who turned out to be town. To be behaving that way, apparently knowing something, then either you are full of it or your are not sharing. There's two ways you could know something. The first is that you are mafia and trying to act like town because you look great every time there is a town kill and you had disapproved of it. The second is that you have some special power, like town cop, and have investigated these people. If it is the former then you are in big trouble. If it is the latter then hiding this isn't helping town at day three. But inactive hunting when there is so much information available? Come on! I really need a clear answer from you on this Leehar because, refer my long-winded precise of the first two days, I was beginning to think that I had you all wrong and I whoudl have listened to you earlier. But hindsight is a perfect science. So, Leehar, time to speak up!

I'm going to vote hippo, for rolefishing and if Leehar was scum I highly doubt he wouldn't get involved in two town lynches.

[betiko]

I'm going to vote hippo, for rolefishing and if Leehar was scum I highly doubt he wouldn't get involved in two town lynches.

or not? a mafia that would play well would try to do that. and i don't see what's the harm in hippo's question. trying to fish for roles now gets people to be voted against? so asking sneaky questions makes you suspicious? a bit ridiculous. FOS jointy

[Some7hingCLEVER]

I'm going to vote hippo, for rolefishing and if Leehar was scum I highly doubt he wouldn't get involved in two town lynches.

or not? a mafia that would play well would try to do that. and i don't see what's the harm in hippo's question. trying to fish for roles now gets people to be voted against? so asking sneaky questions makes you suspicious? a bit ridiculous. FOS jointy

lol no being sneaky makes you suspicious