Community [3/13] Game over - Town wins!

by **aage** on Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:07 pm

My apologies, got caught up with something. Day two will start soon.

by **aage** on Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:21 pm

The survivors of the Game had had a rough night. While some behaved exactly like one would expect a Community college student to behave and did nothing, others were out and about, secretly patrolling the corridors and stalking the shadows. Who was to be trusted? Who was not? And who was responsible for that horrid smell in the men's room? These questions echoed in many a mind that morning, as everyone got together and no-one was shot.

It seems night one was as fruitful as day one; nobody died!

Day 2 starts. With 13 alive, 7 is a lynch.

by **gregwolf121** on Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:09 pm

huh so anybody get anything

by **anamainiacks** on Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:58 pm

Well, that doesn't give us much information to work with... :/ So... we're back to where we left off at the end of Day 1?

by **thechuck51** on Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:08 pm

anamainiacks wrote:Well, that doesn't give us much information to work with... :/ So... we're back to where we left off at the end of Day 1?

If I recall correctly I left off day 1 voting for rishaed and I think I will start day 2 there. vote rishaed

we really should have gotten a claim from him yesterday.

by **Hank44Soccer** on Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:21 pm

Ok, which one of you made that terrible smell in the men's room?

by **rishaed** on Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:23 pm

True. Seeing as either Mafia targeted me and I got saved/ Mafia was roleblocked/Mafia targeted someone else and they got saved. . . I don't want to waste today so I'll claim. I am Magnitude Town VT. I was trying to get Mafia to go for a NK on me last night, however it seems like that failed, but I'm not to unhappy with that result.
fp'd by Hank
?? What? :-s

by **anamainiacks** on Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:30 am

rishaed wrote:True. Seeing as either Mafia targeted me and I got saved/ Mafia was roleblocked/Mafia targeted someone else and they got saved. . . I don't want to waste today so I'll claim. I am Magnitude Town VT. I was trying to get Mafia to go for a NK on me last night, however it seems like that failed, but I'm not to unhappy with that result.
fp'd by Hank
?? What?

I think Hank was just referencing aage's Night One narration post

I'm not getting your strategy of wanting to get NKed though? What would that have achieved? Seems like an absurd strategy for any player.

by **Gustaf Wasa** on Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:42 am

Hope it was okay to post a confirmation even though the night had started. Having read through the thread to fill in for Vodean, nothing really sticks except that there was a lot of suspicions leveled at rishaed. But it didn't really seem that he had done anything suspect. Or am I missing something?

So, no kill during the night. That means a Doc (or similar role) has protected a townie from being killed. Either the Doc chose someone to protect randomly, or he picked someone he thought was likely to get killed.

rishaed wrote:True. Seeing as either Mafia targeted me and I got saved/ Mafia was roleblocked/Mafia targeted someone else and they got saved. . . I don't want to waste today so I'll claim. I am Magnitude Town VT. I was trying to get Mafia to go for a NK on me last night, however it seems like that failed, but I'm not to unhappy with that result.
fp'd by Hank
?? What?

NK means non-kill, right? Did you mean you tried to make the Mafia kill you, and hopefully have someone protect you?

Otherwise, simply being involved in controversy seems to me a pretty good protection. Mafia would not want to kill someone who is already under suspicion. Or kill someone who suspects others.

by **aage** on Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:18 am

Gustaf Wasa wrote:Hope it was okay to post a confirmation even though the night had started.

Well, I did ask you to, so I guess it was.

by **Gustaf Wasa** on Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:45 am

aage wrote:
Gustaf Wasa wrote:Hope it was okay to post a confirmation even though the night had started.

Well, I did ask you do, so I guess it was.

Yes, but then I thought that maybe you wanted me to wait until the night was over.

by **jonty125** on Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:40 am

Gustaf Wasa wrote:Hope it was okay to post a confirmation even though the night had started. Having read through the thread to fill in for Vodean, nothing really sticks except that there was a lot of suspicions leveled at rishaed. But it didn't really seem that he had done anything suspect. Or am I missing something?

So, no kill during the night. That means a Doc (or similar role) has protected a townie from being killed. Either the Doc chose someone to protect randomly, or he picked someone he thought was likely to get killed.

rishaed wrote:True. Seeing as either Mafia targeted me and I got saved/ Mafia was roleblocked/Mafia targeted someone else and they got saved. . . I don't want to waste today so I'll claim. I am Magnitude Town VT. I was trying to get Mafia to go for a NK on me last night, however it seems like that failed, but I'm not to unhappy with that result.
fp'd by Hank
?? What?

NK means non-kill, right? Did you mean you tried to make the Mafia kill you, and hopefully have someone protect you?

Otherwise, simply being involved in controversy seems to me a pretty good protection. Mafia would not want to kill someone who is already under suspicion. Or kill someone who suspects others.

NK sounds like night kill.

Hmm, a VT claim, so WCS is not too shabby, and anyway, if I was mafia and you had refused to claim before deadline, I would actually avoid killing you; because a PR would claim, to gain protection. So, *urgh*, I don't want to lynch you for that, yet, but if D2 peters out, I will return to this.

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:47 pm

rishaed wrote:True. Seeing as either Mafia targeted me and I got saved/ Mafia was roleblocked/Mafia targeted someone else and they got saved. . . I don't want to waste today so I'll claim. I am Magnitude Town VT. I was trying to get Mafia to go for a NK on me last night, however it seems like that failed, but I'm not to unhappy with that result.
fp'd by Hank
?? What?

Your strategy and claim doesn't really make sense. Are you asserting that by being ambiguous about your role (D1) and drawing attention to yourself would make you a target for the maf NK and that by being VT this would benefit town since no power role is lost? That's silly. You would probably be numero uno for watchers, trackers, etc., since you didn't claim yesterday and no scum would chance that for a seemingly small payoff.

And now you're claiming a somewhat minor character as VT at the start of D2, as well as a stratagem attempt ex post facto.

-Tails

by **Gustaf Wasa** on Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:04 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
rishaed wrote:True. Seeing as either Mafia targeted me and I got saved/ Mafia was roleblocked/Mafia targeted someone else and they got saved. . . I don't want to waste today so I'll claim. I am Magnitude Town VT. I was trying to get Mafia to go for a NK on me last night, however it seems like that failed, but I'm not to unhappy with that result.
fp'd by Hank
?? What?

Your strategy and claim doesn't really make sense. Are you asserting that by being ambiguous about your role (D1) and drawing attention to yourself would make you a target for the maf NK and that by being VT this would benefit town since no power role is lost? That's silly. You would probably be numero uno for watchers, trackers, etc., since you didn't claim yesterday and no scum would chance that for a seemingly small payoff.

And now you're claiming a somewhat minor character as VT at the start of D2, as well as a stratagem attempt ex post facto.

-Tails

Would watchers, trackers etc really think like that? It seems to me they could think that precisely for that reason they need not waste the night on watching rishaed.

by **rishaed** on Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:39 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
rishaed wrote:True. Seeing as either Mafia targeted me and I got saved/ Mafia was roleblocked/Mafia targeted someone else and they got saved. . . I don't want to waste today so I'll claim. I am Magnitude Town VT. I was trying to get Mafia to go for a NK on me last night, however it seems like that failed, but I'm not to unhappy with that result.
fp'd by Hank
?? What?

Your strategy and claim doesn't really make sense. Are you asserting that by being ambiguous about your role (D1) and drawing attention to yourself would make you a target for the maf NK and that by being VT this would benefit town since no power role is lost? That's silly. You would probably be numero uno for watchers, trackers, etc., since you didn't claim yesterday and no scum would chance that for a seemingly small payoff.

And now you're claiming a somewhat minor character as VT at the start of D2, as well as a stratagem attempt ex post facto.

-Tails

I had more than once softclaimed a PR >.> believe me or not. I was trying to be subtle about it, but you guys started to BW me. As for sacrificing a VT for a true PR, that is in no way's silly. PR's give town investigatives and a Vote, while I can only vote. If I can make the Mafia NK me then why wouldn't I. Plus I never got to L-2, which as a PR would be the point of claiming. I was at L-3 for awhile, but never L-2. As for Community character's I honestly don't have an idea on who's who. . . 8-[

. What else do you expect? Telling town "Hey I'm a VT trying to look like a PR so scum will NK me!" Scum would laugh and go NK someone else. :lol:

Its also why I claimed at the start of D2 so we could go elsewhere.

by **anamainiacks** on Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:32 pm

rishaed wrote:I had more than once softclaimed a PR >.> believe me or not. I was trying to be subtle about it, but you guys started to BW me. As for sacrificing a VT for a true PR, that is in no way's silly. PR's give town investigatives and a Vote, while I can only vote. If I can make the Mafia NK me then why wouldn't I. Plus I never got to L-2, which as a PR would be the point of claiming. I was at L-3 for awhile, but never L-2. As for Community character's I honestly don't have an idea on who's who. . . . What else do you expect? Telling town "Hey I'm a VT trying to look like a PR so scum will NK me!" Scum would laugh and go NK someone else. Its also why I claimed at the start of D2 so we could go elsewhere.

Except that a good number of people did end up thinking that you were scummy for your iffy actions in Day 1, rather than a townie PR. So we can't be sure whether the scum saw it your way, or ours.

Since we're getting nowhere after rishaed's VT claim, I'd like to point out that Commander, blakebowling, Iron Butterfly, Metsfanmax and Little Witt have been awfully quiet for Day 2 so far, while Hank and gregwolf have only made single inconsequential posts at the start of the day. That's 7 out of the 13 of us keeping silent.

by **gregwolf121** on Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:49 am

i've got nothing to go on, my only thoght has been that rishaed confession, could indicate jester, but his telling us, doesnt' make sense, so in reality i got nothing

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:20 am

Gustaf Wasa wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
rishaed wrote:True. Seeing as either Mafia targeted me and I got saved/ Mafia was roleblocked/Mafia targeted someone else and they got saved. . . I don't want to waste today so I'll claim. I am Magnitude Town VT. I was trying to get Mafia to go for a NK on me last night, however it seems like that failed, but I'm not to unhappy with that result.
fp'd by Hank
?? What?

Your strategy and claim doesn't really make sense. Are you asserting that by being ambiguous about your role (D1) and drawing attention to yourself would make you a target for the maf NK and that by being VT this would benefit town since no power role is lost? That's silly. You would probably be numero uno for watchers, trackers, etc., since you didn't claim yesterday and no scum would chance that for a seemingly small payoff.

And now you're claiming a somewhat minor character as VT at the start of D2, as well as a stratagem attempt ex post facto.

-Tails

Would watchers, trackers etc really think like that? It seems to me they could think that precisely for that reason they need not waste the night on watching rishaed.

It's most likely that the player who draws the most attention during the day gets the most night actions directed at him/her during the night, especially during the first day when tells and vibes haven't been fully sussed out yet. This is just what has occurred in the vast majority of the many games I've played. A watcher would be prudent to watch such a player (in this case rishaed) to gather the most information (could learn who is cop, who is ___, etc...), and is probably the worst choice for scum kill.

rishaed wrote:I had more than once softclaimed a PR >.> believe me or not. I was trying to be subtle about it, but you guys started to BW me. As for sacrificing a VT for a true PR, that is in no way's silly. PR's give town investigatives and a Vote, while I can only vote. If I can make the Mafia NK me then why wouldn't I. Plus I never got to L-2, which as a PR would be the point of claiming. I was at L-3 for awhile, but never L-2. As for Community character's I honestly don't have an idea on who's who. . . . What else do you expect? Telling town "Hey I'm a VT trying to look like a PR so scum will NK me!" Scum would laugh and go NK someone else. Its also why I claimed at the start of D2 so we could go elsewhere.

K. Still doesn't counter what I was saying. Basically I would FoS'ing you.

-Tails

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:25 am

ebwop:

I wrote:Basically I wouldam FoS'ing you.

lol grammar fail.

-Tails

by **Metsfanmax** on Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:04 am

rishaed wrote: What else do you expect? Telling town "Hey I'm a VT trying to look like a PR so scum will NK me!" Scum would laugh and go NK someone else. Its also why I claimed at the start of D2 so we could go elsewhere.

On D1 or D2, this is simply trying too hard. Unless scum think you are really stupid, they're not going to go for an obvious and supposedly intentional slip of a PR. I contend that actually you got the opposite of what you want, because everyone knows that as a VT part of your job is to draw suspicion off the power roles. So this argument fails to convince me.

by **thechuck51** on Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:20 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
rishaed wrote: What else do you expect? Telling town "Hey I'm a VT trying to look like a PR so scum will NK me!" Scum would laugh and go NK someone else. Its also why I claimed at the start of D2 so we could go elsewhere.

On D1 or D2, this is simply trying too hard. Unless scum think you are really stupid, they're not going to go for an obvious and supposedly intentional slip of a PR. I contend that actually you got the opposite of what you want, because everyone knows that as a VT part of your job is to draw suspicion off the power roles. So this argument fails to convince me.

I agree, worse case scenario rish can do his job as a VT and take a lynch for the team. besides, i'm not 100% convinced of his claim...

by **jonty125** on Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:48 am

I have no knowledge of the flavour; so I can't comment on how obscure or not rishead's character is.

I'll say what I said yesterday regarding him, WCS is not that bad, lynching a VT and I would support it; but, not yet, I'd rather see a case today before resorting to a rishaed lynch.

by **Gustaf Wasa** on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:35 am

jonty125 wrote:I have no knowledge of the flavour; so I can't comment on how obscure or not rishead's character is.

Flavour, that must be a local Mafia expression? At least I haven't heard it before.

by **jonty125** on Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:13 pm

Gustaf Wasa wrote:
jonty125 wrote:I have no knowledge of the flavour; so I can't comment on how obscure or not rishead's character is.

Flavour, that must be a local Mafia expression? At least I haven't heard it before.

Flavour is just another word for theme.

by **blakebowling** on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:57 am

Sorry about my absence earlier in the day (I was actually prodded about it as well

). I've been working on a new project and I'll admit I kind of forgot about this game. I'll take some time to read up on the thread and post my thoughts (hopefully by tomorrow).