Waterdale Mafia Over Mafia Wins

[spiesr]

Vote Count:
No Lynch (4): kgb007, JamesKer1, Iron Butterfly, new guy1
Anarkistsdream (2): The Weird One, gregwolf121
The Weird One (1): Anarkistsdream
Iron Butterfly (1): Fircoal

5 Votes required for a lynch.
Deadline: October 22 12:00 MDT

JamesKer1, in the future please use the word "Vote" when voting.

[The Weird One]

I'm not really behind a no lynch. Yes, it is a small game, and we don't want to give the scum a free kill, but, at the same time, I'm not certain we want to waste an opportunity to hit them. All in all, I'm still suspicious of Nark. The claim is just too easy to make...My vote shall stand until I see a better case.

[Anarkistsdream]

I'm not really behind a no lynch. Yes, it is a small game, and we don't want to give the scum a free kill, but, at the same time, I'm not certain we want to waste an opportunity to hit them. All in all, I'm still suspicious of Nark. The claim is just too easy to make...My vote shall stand until I see a better case.

As I said in another game, this isn't "Twelve Angry Men." You aren't the loan juror... your 'stand' doesn't mean squat, brother... I am NOT scummy and if you aren't than find another target... or don't... Two votes against me won't cut it, and will be remembered if something happens in a two person scum group... I do not want anybody town- oh, I mean Vanilla Townie since it is just SO common- to die, and we will certainly lose one through the night... we can't lose two. Or TWO... Get it? A pun with your name

[The Weird One]

I'm not really behind a no lynch. Yes, it is a small game, and we don't want to give the scum a free kill, but, at the same time, I'm not certain we want to waste an opportunity to hit them. All in all, I'm still suspicious of Nark. The claim is just too easy to make...My vote shall stand until I see a better case.

As I said in another game, this isn't "Twelve Angry Men." You aren't the loan juror... your 'stand' doesn't mean squat, brother... I am NOT scummy and if you aren't than find another target... or don't... Two votes against me won't cut it, and will be remembered if something happens in a two person scum group... I do not want anybody town- oh, I mean Vanilla Townie since it is just SO common- to die, and we will certainly lose one through the night... we can't lose two. Or TWO... Get it? A pun with your name

I realize my lone stand means nothing. I'm just leaving my opinion out there. I'm not expecting anybody to follow me or to be held up by me.

[Anarkistsdream]

Alright, folks.... 10 minutes until 12 MDT...

Thank you for not lynching me... I really am town.

[spiesr]

Fear began to grip the citizens of Waterdale. They knew the escaped convicts had infiltrated their midsts and soon no one knew who to trust. They tried hunt for the hidden danger but everywhere they searched they only found that which seemed to belong. As the sun hung low in the sky the search was called off. No one wanted to be caught out at night with those men on the loose. The citizens retired to their homes looking back at what they are feared may be their last sunset.

Final Vote Count:
No Lynch (4): kgb007, JamesKer1, Iron Butterfly, new guy1
Anarkistsdream (2): The Weird One, gregwolf121
The Weird One (1): Anarkistsdream
Iron Butterfly (1): Fircoal

5 Votes required for a lynch, Day 1 ends with No Lynch.
Night 1 begins all actions must be in by October 25 12:15 MDT

[spiesr]

The citizens fears were confirmed that morning. As they arrive at the town square they are aghast by the sight before them; the body one of their own, bound, apparently having being drug from his home in the night as a sign of things to come. Nearby a message seemingly scrawled in blood, "with this act a new reign of terror begins, you are not safe, there is nothing you can do, your worlds ends now." As they worked to clear the body away the citizens renewed their resolve to find the demons hiding in their midsts.
gregwolf121, Vanilla Townie has been killed.

With 7 alive 4 votes are required for a lynch.

[Anarkistsdream]

With a one in three shot to hit a mafia member, I am going to....

Well... I have strong suspicions. But I will wait to accuse, in case anybody has something to go on.

[gregwolf121]

well glad i was of some use go town

[JamesKer1]

Sorry to see you go Greg. Definitely not someone I was expecting...

[Anarkistsdream]

Sorry to see you go Greg. Definitely not someone I was expecting...

Nor I... As seldom as he was posting, I didn't understand the need to off him so quickly...

Of course, due to my thought processes, that immediately makes me think the scum is someone decently new to mafia... Of course, someone with experience doesn't kill off the people who post a lot because THOSE are the people who typically get into linguistic trouble...

[Fircoal]

Something important to note. For whatever reason the night only lasted 20 hours. That leads me to believe there was some quick communication going on.

[Anarkistsdream]

Something important to note. For whatever reason the night only lasted 20 hours. That leads me to believe there was some quick communication going on.

I agree, but we've all been fairly communicative in the thread... Fairly.

[Fircoal]

Something important to note. For whatever reason the night only lasted 20 hours. That leads me to believe there was some quick communication going on.

I agree, but we've all been fairly communicative in the thread... Fairly.

Yes. something else to note is that communicating with each other over that time would be hard, so likely the two scummy scums were both on at the same time or one of them decided to send in the action themselves.

[Anarkistsdream]

Something important to note. For whatever reason the night only lasted 20 hours. That leads me to believe there was some quick communication going on.

I agree, but we've all been fairly communicative in the thread... Fairly.

Yes. something else to note is that communicating with each other over that time would be hard, so likely the two scummy scums were both on at the same time or one of them decided to send in the action themselves.

And hoping we have town power roles, they would have had to act extremely quickly, also.

[kgb007]

wow very surprised we're already at D2, i'm not sure what we can really learn from such a short night though

maybe instead of two scum buddies, there's only 1? that would cut down on the discussion period since there's no one to consult with

[Fircoal]

wow very surprised we're already at D2, i'm not sure what we can really learn from such a short night though

maybe instead of two scum buddies, there's only 1? that would cut down on the discussion period since there's no one to consult with

That's what I was thinking as well.

Something important to note. For whatever reason the night only lasted 20 hours. That leads me to believe there was some quick communication going on.

I agree, but we've all been fairly communicative in the thread... Fairly.

Yes. something else to note is that communicating with each other over that time would be hard, so likely the two scummy scums were both on at the same time or one of them decided to send in the action themselves.

And hoping we have town power roles, they would have had to act extremely quickly, also.

This too. What I am wondering what if there is only one power role and one mafia member. Then assuming that there are only 4 townies would be a bad idea. ><

[Iron Butterfly]

wow very surprised we're already at D2, i'm not sure what we can really learn from such a short night though

maybe instead of two scum buddies, there's only 1? that would cut down on the discussion period since there's no one to consult with

Perhaps you should re-read the opening scene.


We had a short night? So what. Its a small game with some VT.

I would like Firecoal to explain why a short night is so important as it offers nothing to the game other then to make it sound like that info is important.

Weather the mafia action was sent in by one person or they both conferred with each other is irrelevant as they still got a night kill and you will never know the answer to your speculation.

[Iron Butterfly]

I also find it funny the both of you are trying to make it sound like there is just 1 mafia, which would only help mafia.

[kgb007]

ha you're right, i completely forgot about the opening scene, thanks for pointing that out

i was more just brainstorming why the night would be so short but i agree, i don't know what can be gleaned from such a short night period

[Anarkistsdream]

I also find it funny the both of you are trying to make it sound like there is just 1 mafia, which would only help mafia.

I have to agree with this one. If you just had ONE, it wouldn't be mafia, it would just be an SK... That aside, if we only have one power role, I pray it is a Cop...

[Fircoal]

wow very surprised we're already at D2, i'm not sure what we can really learn from such a short night though

maybe instead of two scum buddies, there's only 1? that would cut down on the discussion period since there's no one to consult with

Perhaps you should re-read the opening scene.


We had a short night? So what. Its a small game with some VT.

Wait WHAT... WHAT WHAT WHAT? This is coming from the person who said THIS:

OK, so let's break this down...

2 Prisoners
6 Townies (unless there is a third party, which I don't see Spiesr putting one in such a small game)

Out of those townies, what do you guys think? One cop, one doc? Maybe a JOAT, instead of two separate roles?

[color=#FF0000He said it was a basic game, so I wouldn't think the scum have any roles at all. ][/color]

This first day lynch is going to be critical, more so than most games because of the small number of players and the fact that there are only two enemies.

I also found this post interesting in that you really try to minimize the roles this game may have especially mafia.
As I stated earlier Spiesr said this is a newb friendly game not a basic game. That does not mean mafia can not have roles.

Unlike you I don't sit on the fence

vote Anarkistsdream

You were the one who put out the idea of there being more power roles on either side while other people were saying that it was likely 4 VT, a cop, a doc, and 2 vanilla mafias or something like that. And now you are claiming that it's just a small game with some VT. That hasn't been the tone you've been taking up this whole game.

I would like Firecoal to explain why a short night is so important as it offers nothing to the game other then to make it sound like that info is important.

Weather the mafia action was sent in by one person or they both conferred with each other is irrelevant as they still got a night kill and you will never know the answer to your speculation.

Um it is important. There is a reason why we speculate. Because think about who would be most likely to send in a kill after limited or no collaboration when they could have used that time to come to a better consensus. The already tells us something about our killers. For example, let's look at JamesKer. He is the type of person who would quickly go after something and not look back until later. A quick night would be something that you would expect from him. There are people who put in their actions right away, and there are people who tend to wait fiveever to do it even if they could earlier. (Even when active I tend to be someone who has a problem putting in their action on time)

Not to add it gets us a better idea of what we have in the town. Yes I forgot there were confirmed two mafia members but what if there were not? It'd be better for us to kick around the possibility. I find it funny how you are the one to remember that for sure there are 2 mafia, while both me and Kgb forget. Maybe there is a reason for that. ;3

[JamesKer1]

Vote nark. Greg was quieter but voted you. Easy way to make it look like you aren't going after someone if you are mafia, but his only substantial vote was against you I believe, maybe one on IB. With the "quick communication", it actually IS important- it suggests how one sided the conversation is. A person who was killed off and on your wagon could save you today.

Also you seem to be pushing to find town power roles... Is that not suspicious?

And on top of all this and the previous suspicion, I REALLY don't like how much your first D2 post pointed to me. I am the only new person here and I post quite a bit... And I am definitely not mafia.

Let's bring back the wagon from where we left off... And don't let nark plead his innocence this time and get it taken off

[Iron Butterfly]

You are mighty defensive in regards to answering a simple question Firecoal and your response is complete WIFOM based on supposed meta. Having a quick night offers NOTHING to who did what.

Second you completely twisted my statement in response Anarchy I said,
"I also found this post interesting in that you really try to minimize the roles this game may have especially mafia.
As I stated earlier Spiesr said this is a newb friendly game not a basic game. That does not mean mafia can not have roles."

It was suggested that scum would not have any roles at all. I strongly stand by my above statement.

Not to add it gets us a better idea of what we have in the town. Yes I forgot there were confirmed two mafia members but what if there were not? It'd be better for us to kick around the possibility. I find it funny how you are the one to remember that for sure there are 2 mafia, while both me and Kgb forget. Maybe there is a reason for that. ;3

Load of crap this statement. The reason I know is that when you suggested this "theory" I reread the opening scene again. Something you were either to to lazy to do before opining, not Once but twice or because you were hoping to plant that seed in peoples minds hoping no one would notice.

[Anarkistsdream]

Anybody with a brain who has ever played mafia knows better than to go after someone going after them... beyond that, your post is laughably ridiculous.. Why go after him with his one vote andZERO posts when people like IB are hardassing me?

Vote nark. Greg was quieter but voted you. Easy way to make it look like you aren't going after someone if you are mafia, but his only substantial vote was against you I believe, maybe one on IB. With the "quick communication", it actually IS important- it suggests how one sided the conversation is. A person who was killed off and on your wagon could save you today.

Also you seem to be pushing to find town power roles... Is that not suspicious?

And on top of all this and the previous suspicion, I REALLY don't like how much your first D2 post pointed to me. I am the only new person here and I post quite a bit... And I am definitely not mafia.

Let's bring back the wagon from where we left off... And don't let nark plead his innocence this time and get it taken off