ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (10/13) - D3: The Bloody Winter Rose

[kgb007]

i plan on rereading and posting something more substantial when I get home from work tonight, weekends are busy

[jonty125]

Sorry, my internet has been patchy over the weekend (particularly Sunday). unvote, vote Iliad to make that L-2.

[Flow520]

I think Nebuchadnezer had a very nice list of possible characters:

1. Rheagar Targaryen
2. Robert Baratheon
3. King Aerys II
4. Eddard Stark
5. Jon Arryn
6. Jaime Lannister
7. Mace Tyrell
8. Jon Connington
9. Hoster Tully
10. Grand Master Pycelle
11. Varys
12. Tywin Lannister
13. Some other minor house (Frey, Greyjoy)

(I could see only one character of the small council, so maybe Frey and Greyjoy are both in.)

I see the blue as "rebellion", red as "loyalists", green as "will choose" and orange as "survivor." I could also see only a few chosen people to be masoned...possibly Robert/Eddard and/or Rhaegar/King Aerys.

From what I read in the prologue, I pulled the following names:
Leliana (Might just be part of the narration?)
Leliana's Uncle (Might just be part of the narration?)
Aerys the II Targaryen (Slightly mad, not on the throne)
Rhaegar Targaryen (Crown Prince)(Kidnaps Lyanna Stark)
Lyanna Stark (betrothed to Robert Baratheon)
Robert Baratheon
Brandon Stark (Tries to recover Lyanna Stark)
Eddard Stark

Note: Lyanna Stark and Brandon Stark are not on Nebuchadnezer's list.

Things we know from the prologue:
There is no more in-fighting between Targaryens. (All Targaryens are allied in this game.)
Aerys the II Targaryen demands (present tense) the heads of Robert Baratheon, and Eddard Stark. (Presumably, he already has the head of Brandon Stark (Who was caught attempting to recover Lyanna Stark)

So I would submit this as a list of known characters in this game.

*Aerys the II Targaryen
*Rhaegar Targaryen
*Lyanna Stark
*Robert Baratheon
*Brandon Stark
*Eddard Stark

[strike wolf]

Brandon Stark is dead. The scene didn't detail it but they are. Lyanna...maybe she would be in the game but I do not know in what capacity. She was the catalyst that started the war but beyond that she wasn't directly involved in the rebellion. The six characters I would think are almost assured to be in this game are there but I would never guarantee the whole list simply because Commander probably left at least one name off to give as a convincing fake claim. At least that's how I usually give out fake claims. The other side is that this is a faction game.

[Flow520]

And as far as I can tell, Iliad is L-3.

Iliad (5) - Spiesr, Butterfly, safari, Wolf, jonty
Flow (1) - illy
Wolf (2) - KGB,TWO
Nagerous (1) - Nebs
YOUR MALEVOLENT OVERLORD (-10) - FirFir
safari (1) - flow
Fircoal (1) - Nagerous

But I don't feel safe added my vote on Iliad to apply more pressure until we get an official mod count. (I just dont want to make it L-1 by mistake and have someone hammer before we get a chance to hear from Iliad.)

[jonty125]

And as far as I can tell, Iliad is L-3.

Iliad (5) - Spiesr, Butterfly, safari, Wolf, jonty
Flow (1) - illy
Wolf (2) - KGB,TWO
Nagerous (1) - Nebs
YOUR MALEVOLENT OVERLORD (-10) - FirFir
safari (1) - flow
Fircoal (1) - Nagerous

But I don't feel safe added my vote on Iliad to apply more pressure until we get an official mod count. (I just dont want to make it L-1 by mistake and have someone hammer before we get a chance to hear from Iliad.)

Doesn't it require 7 to lynch. 7-5=2.

[Flow520]

Brandon Stark is dead. The scene didn't detail it but they are. Lyanna...maybe she would be in the game but I do not know in what capacity. She was the catalyst that started the war but beyond that she wasn't directly involved in the rebellion. The six characters I would think are almost assured to be in this game are there but I would never guarantee the whole list simply because Commander probably left at least one name off to give as a convincing fake claim. At least that's how I usually give out fake claims. The other side is that this is a faction game.

Do we really know Brandon Stark is dead?

Brandon Stark reacted and he reacted swiftly – despite numerous warnings and suggestions, he rushed to King’s Landing and demanded Rhaegar’s head. Of course, that didn’t work and both he and his followers were imprisoned and their parents were called up to their trial. The trial, however, never happened – everyone but were executed. Aerys wasn’t happy with just that – he demanded the heads of Eddard Stark and Robert Baratheon too… Which he wasn’t going to get without a fight.

The grammer error makes me think that Commander9 may have left a name out when he was writing it. (Perhaps Commander9 can confirm for us.)

[Flow520]

And as far as I can tell, Iliad is L-3.

Iliad (5) - Spiesr, Butterfly, safari, Wolf, jonty
Flow (1) - illy
Wolf (2) - KGB,TWO
Nagerous (1) - Nebs
YOUR MALEVOLENT OVERLORD (-10) - FirFir
safari (1) - flow
Fircoal (1) - Nagerous

But I don't feel safe added my vote on Iliad to apply more pressure until we get an official mod count. (I just dont want to make it L-1 by mistake and have someone hammer before we get a chance to hear from Iliad.)

Doesn't it require 7 to lynch. 7-5=2.

With 13 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

[jonty125]

And as far as I can tell, Iliad is L-3.

Iliad (5) - Spiesr, Butterfly, safari, Wolf, jonty
Flow (1) - illy
Wolf (2) - KGB,TWO
Nagerous (1) - Nebs
YOUR MALEVOLENT OVERLORD (-10) - FirFir
safari (1) - flow
Fircoal (1) - Nagerous

But I don't feel safe added my vote on Iliad to apply more pressure until we get an official mod count. (I just dont want to make it L-1 by mistake and have someone hammer before we get a chance to hear from Iliad.)

Doesn't it require 7 to lynch. 7-5=2.

With 13 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Probably a mod error.

[strike wolf]

I am assuming that the mod is following canon on who would have died at Kings Landing. As long as he doesn't say otherwise at least.

[nagerous]

Sorry, my internet has been patchy over the weekend (particularly Sunday). unvote, vote Iliad to make that L-2.

Shameless bandwagoning on an inactive. Congrats Iron Butterfly, you did get this game going.

Unvote Vote Jonty

[nagerous]

The defenceless are always easy targets aren't they!

[Commander9]

Glad you say that you will not blindly lynch for the sake of the lynch, others have latched onto this thought, hopefully this will not be the case, simply as Iliad has been inactive in every game so it's not actually a scum tell. I would rather see a replacment for Iliad arranged - mod what say you?

Question for Strike Wolf: What know you about honour?

*goes back to reading GoT, 100 pages to go!* (but another 9000 or whatever the f*ck before I finish the series written to date )

Prodding him. If it won't work, will replace.

The grammer error makes me think that Commander9 may have left a name out when he was writing it. (Perhaps Commander9 can confirm for us.)

Indeed, I made a grammatical error. It was supposed to say "Everyone in the group were executed but Ethan Glover."

Vote Count:

Iliad (5) - Spiesr, Butterfly, safari, Wolf, jonty (L-3)
Flow (1) - illy
Wolf (2) - KGB, TWO
Nagerous (1) - Nebs
Aage (OVER 9000) - FirFir
safari (1) - flow

With 13 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

P.S. Current deadline is tomorrow night. Most likely won't be changed unless I see good levels of activity like now. (also unvoting before voting would be appreciated).

[nagerous]

I did unvote before voting but it didn't seem to register, just made my vote for fircoal twice as powerful, not that I am against that

[nagerous]

The VC is still pretty screwy, not sure if some of it is role related or not - can we have some clarification?

[Commander9]

I did unvote before voting but it didn't seem to register, just made my vote for fircoal twice as powerful, not that I am against that

Lies and slander, I say!

[strike wolf]

How is it L-8? Is this a mistake or are there some extra votes in this game?

[Commander9]

The VC is still pretty screwy, not sure if some of it is role related or not - can we have some clarification?

What exactly do you mean? If you mean not being allowed to state your victory conditions... Then yes, that is not allowed. You may ambiguously state them, but you can't give out all the details. So, example:

"My name Inigo Montoya, you have killed my father. [I must kill the primary antagonist to win] Prepare to die." OK

"I am Aragorn, Son of Arathorn. I may only win if Frodo and Sam reach Mount Doom, Sauron and Saruman are defeated and Arwen must live. Also, I get bonus points for slapping Golum and pimping Eowyn." NOT OKAY


In order, for our specific game, you can say that you win if [INSERT YOUR FACTION HERE] wins, but you can't explain or go into details about your victory conditions. If you are not completely sure, feel free to PM and I'll be more than glad to answer the question

How is it L-8? Is this a mistake or are there some extra votes in this game?

It says L-3 for Illy, I believe. Haven't edited that.

[spiesr]

How is it L-8? Is this a mistake or are there some extra votes in this game?

It says L-3 for Illy, I believe. Haven't edited that.

Can you confirm that 8 votes are required for a Lynch instead of the 7 it would normally take with this many players?

[Commander9]

Can you confirm that 8 votes are required for a Lynch instead of the 7 it would normally take with this many players?

I can confirm that I've not made any mod errors as far as I can tell, thus the vote count is correct. I think you already had your answer based on the fact that it has been the same thing over and over.

[Flow520]

The grammer error makes me think that Commander9 may have left a name out when he was writing it. (Perhaps Commander9 can confirm for us.)

Indeed, I made a grammatical error. It was supposed to say "Everyone in the group were executed but Ethan Glover."

Cool, so the list of known characters in this game is:

*Aerys the II Targaryen
*Rhaegar Targaryen
*Robert Baratheon
*Eddard Stark
*Ethan Glover

And a mod mentioned character but not confirmed to be alive in this story is Lyanna Stark.

[nagerous]

VC meant vote count

[Iron Butterfly]

Sorry, my internet has been patchy over the weekend (particularly Sunday). unvote, vote Iliad to make that L-2.

Shameless bandwagoning on an inactive. Congrats Iron Butterfly, you did get this game going.

Unvote Vote Jonty

Spiesr got the ball rolling. I just kicked it a few times for good measure.

When you get right to it Nagarious it is all one shameless bandwagon. It was created because we had nothing. I agree that Illiads inactivity is not a scum tell so much as being away from the site, which is why I said what I said about lynching.

For me a question arises about your vote on jonty. Why switch gears from Illiad to jonty knowing we now have a little more 24 hours to reach a consensus before deadline? I guess the upside would be that jonty is at least present for discussion as to being AWOL from game.

What say you jonty??

[nagerous]

Sorry, my internet has been patchy over the weekend (particularly Sunday). unvote, vote Iliad to make that L-2.

Shameless bandwagoning on an inactive. Congrats Iron Butterfly, you did get this game going.

Unvote Vote Jonty

Spiesr got the ball rolling. I just kicked it a few times for good measure.

When you get right to it Nagarious it is all one shameless bandwagon. It was created because we had nothing. I agree that Illiads inactivity is not a scum tell so much as being away from the site, which is why I said what I said about lynching.

For me a question arises about your vote on jonty. Why switch gears from Illiad to jonty knowing we now have a little more 24 hours to reach a consensus before deadline? I guess the upside would be that jonty is at least present for discussion as to being AWOL from game.

What say you jonty??

I have no intention of voting Iliad, I did not switch gears, I just targeted a bandwagoner. Safari and strike could be questionable too. I just know there is scum on this wagon.

[nagerous]

There is a 'reek' in the air