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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby betiko on Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:18 am

DoomYoshi wrote:It's probably betiko. I've had suspicions of him before. Also, the accusative tone he used towards me after zombification still doesn't sit right.

Vote betiko



I guess a confirmed zombie cult shouldn't be adressed in an accusative way and deserves all my trust doom. Here are the players left, I'm open for a night by night action discution if everybody is, I have nothing to hide. Can we prod commander by the way, he's the only one not participating in ages.

2.DoomYoshi
3.spiesr, revived day nine
9.safariguy5, revived day ten
10.new guy1
12.jonty125
15.rishaed
18.Commander9
20.thehippo8
21. pancakemix
24.betiko
25.Rodion
26.soundman, revived day six
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby betiko on Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:36 am

ok just a little recap isn't going to hurt anybody, as you can see all townies have been targeted at some point, even though they are all here. It's definitely someone's win condition to kill them all:

DoomYoshi: normal unaligned? human(targeted twice, zombie, cult)
betiko: normal unaligned? human (killing ability)
jonty125: normal unaligned? human (killing ability)
rishaed: normal unaligned? human (aligned to hippo then changed to survivor? killing ability?)

new guy1, yith
Commander9, yith (cult)

thehippo8, human form yog (killing ability)

pancakemix, reviver doc (killing ability?)

Rodion town joat (targeted twice, zombie, killing ability)
soundman, town dreamer (revived, killing ability?)
spiesr, town doc (revived, formerly? insane, killing ability)
safariguy5, town joat (revived, killing ability?)

also, how can chapcrap be in a yith body and not the other way around? / did you get that right?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby betiko on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:00 pm

by the way, I thought I'd go back to the exact description of every killed player by / since the start, also the order.

day 1
elonpuckhog, Shoggoth has been deadline killed

night 1
soundman, Kuranes, Town Dreamer King, has been killed!

night 2
no death

day 3
Lord Voldemort, Elder Thing, has been lynched

night 3
Strike Wolf, Black Brotherhood Leader, has been killed!
crazymilkshake5, Elder Thing, has been killed!

day 4
ghostly447, Elder Thing, has been lynched

night 4
thechuck51, Normal Unaligned Human, has been killed

day 5
jak111, Nyarlathotep, Cult Recruiter, has been lynched!

night 5
no death

day 6
Vodean, Unknown-Alignment Normal Insane Human has been lynched

night 6
edocsil, normal unaligned human has been killed!
Soundman has been revived!

day 7
no lynch (witt 1st attempt)

night 7
spiesr, Dean Allen Halsey, Insane Town Doctor, has been killed!

day 8
Little Witt, Cthulhu has been lynched!

night 8
spiesr has been revived
safariguy5, Randolph Carter, Town Insanity-Proof Human has been killed
Kanin Usagi, Yith in Normal Human Body has been killed

day 9
no death, hippo attempt

night 9
Iron Butterfly, Normal unknown alignment human has been killed
chapcrap, Normal unaligned human in Yith body has been killed
Nendreel, Herbert West, Re-animator, has been killed
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby new guy1 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:52 pm

He was correct. We switch bodies when we take over their mind. It means that either he is the one that was switched when kanin died, or commander switched and chap died in his body. I dont know though, because commander has not messaged me with any information recently. I think he is on vacation or something cause I havent heard from him in a while, but to clear it up, it is correct. It means chap died, not whoever was in his body. Also, to those killing the yith, unless it is your WC to kill us, you shouldnt kill us as we are a waste of your time. Or at least I am, since I havent switched bodies for a solid 3 nights. Or was it 2? I dont even know, lol.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby rishaed on Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:01 pm

Vote betiko The question he asked last time doesn't sit right w/ me,and he didn't back it up with any evidence either. Of course I would rather lunch hippo today if possible, he claims unlunchable just like Witt... I'm not buying it, but w/ out popular support I'm going elsewhere today.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby betiko on Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:55 pm

new guy1 wrote:He was correct. We switch bodies when we take over their mind. It means that either he is the one that was switched when kanin died, or commander switched and chap died in his body. I dont know though, because commander has not messaged me with any information recently. I think he is on vacation or something cause I havent heard from him in a while, but to clear it up, it is correct. It means chap died, not whoever was in his body. Also, to those killing the yith, unless it is your WC to kill us, you shouldnt kill us as we are a waste of your time. Or at least I am, since I havent switched bodies for a solid 3 nights. Or was it 2? I dont even know, lol.


I tried to kill chap that night (8) and I'm pretty sure I killed kanin by accident (the night saf got killed). The night (7) spiesr got killed I slept and got the mason ability for the following night+day that I used on IB. IB did confirm this fact 2 days ago. Last night (9) I tried to kill chap again and got him; just surprised about the result. This means there is a busdriver or something. I have absolutely no problem giving my list of actions night by night since the start; all my night kills have been about removing dead weight which I am ready to reveal if everybody does. I have already discussed some of my actions with spiesr who can come and confirm. My 2 biggest suspects for killing town are jonty and rishaed. Surprisingly rishaed jumps on my wagon lol.
Afraid to give all your night by night actions rishaed??? Is it because I asked you if you killed after night 8? bring it on, same with jonty. I can be 100% honnest and give away all my actions; town aren't killing town so has to be unaligned joats. Also PCM has probably done a few kills for nendreel, because the odds of reviving targeted people like they did are extremely low. I doubt he has no killing ability.

also, interesting to see that IB used his worship ability just like vodean; chap, edoc & chuck didn't.

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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby betiko on Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:57 pm

ebwop:

*Is it because I asked you if you killed saf after night 8? (that was to rishaed)
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby thehippo8 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:59 pm

I have a question for jonty. How did you get the necronomicon?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:02 pm

Oh, so betiko is killing people. Which is what I accused him of...

Why so defensive betiko?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby betiko on Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:05 pm

thehippo8 wrote:I have a question for jonty. How did you get the necronomicon?


so it was jonty? Am I the only one who wouldn't ve guessed that one, did he hint it to you?
hippo, what is that yellow man in the ctulhu mythos?

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defensive doom really? lol. I proposed to be 100% hommest and give away all our night by night actions, is that a problem for you?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Eight

Postby Rodion on Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:14 pm

Rodion wrote:I do not own the book. I can vote Little Witt if you want me to, though.

I always suspected Jonty to have the book, since he hammered its last owner (Ghostly, I think). However, being that he was part of yesterday's BW that failed to get Witt lynched, I'm clueless again.


I was right, then. :P

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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby soundman on Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:25 pm

Vote Hippo. I want him gone. Especially after what he did last night and his first post today. Definitely not playing in favor of the town. Betiko can wait for tomorrow or maybe someone can off him tonight.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby rishaed on Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:36 pm

betiko wrote:
thehippo8 wrote:I have a question for jonty. How did you get the necronomicon?


so it was jonty? Am I the only one who wouldn't ve guessed that one, did he hint it to you?
hippo, what is that yellow man in the ctulhu mythos?

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defensive doom really? lol. I proposed to be 100% hommest and give away all our night by night actions, is that a problem for you?

Auto correct >.> :roll: , however speaking we cannot keep hippo accountable if he choose to kill the person w/ the necromicon and take it. (similar Mafia faction) i believe thus rather, that betiko can wait, and i don't want an invincible killer running around here. unvote vote hippo ^And your accusation of BW'ing you is ridiculous betiko, only Doom voted for you, and from flavor of the scene (openly admitting you killed chap) it doesn't sound like a vig kill but rather an SK kill. In fact its quite similar to the N7 kill that we had.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby Rodion on Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:52 pm

Safari, did you know you were insanity-proof?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby rishaed on Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:19 pm

betiko wrote:ok just a little recap isn't going to hurt anybody, as you can see all townies have been targeted at some point, even though they are all here. It's definitely someone's win condition to kill them all:

DoomYoshi: normal unaligned? human(targeted twice, zombie, cult)
betiko: normal unaligned? human (killing ability)
jonty125: normal unaligned? human (killing ability)
rishaed: normal unaligned? human (aligned to hippo then changed to survivor? killing ability?)

new guy1, yith
Commander9, yith (cult)

thehippo8, human form yog (killing ability)

pancakemix, reviver doc (killing ability?)

Rodion town joat (targeted twice, zombie, killing ability)
soundman, town dreamer (revived, killing ability?)
spiesr, town doc (revived, formerly? insane, killing ability)
safariguy5, town joat (revived, killing ability?)

also, how can chapcrap be in a yith body and not the other way around? / did you get that right?

just something that i picked up here. . . A standard SK seeks to eliminate everybody around him, (basically the lone survivor at the end), so why would Betiko think that it was just townies, and not include the yith (the God's would be impossible seeing as they are Human NK proof). The second question i would ask is why wouldn't the SK go after the Reviver seeing as he to the SK is his mortal enemy. I think something is missing from the puzzle pieces and betiko may have the missing puzzle piece.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby betiko on Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:51 pm

You guys seem not to understand something. there is a freaking townie killer running out there and it's not me. There is no reviver left so we need to out him before it's too late. I am openly admitting I killed inactives from time to time this game and I am willing to give you the list and cooperate (all being elder things and unaligned joats).
I am almost sure the town killer is rishaed, if he is willing to cooperate though giving his night actions, like i will do as well, and like i'd like jonty to he might be cleared.
I don't see why you guys rush days in 3-4 real days to enter in 5 real days nights. Town has killing roles as well. The whole "bah we'll deal with it tommorow" shit is pure lazyness at best. we can deal with several kills per night, let's find the killer before night phase guys.

Rishaed, if I was a SK, wouldn't I try to kill nendreel first so they don't come back?? he has been killed by hippo who has admitted it. Again dodging my question: do you have a problem with giving all your night actions so far? do you have a problem with other killing roles admitting who they killed so far?? I have proofs that I had other actions nights that townies were killed. You are hidding something ugly.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby rishaed on Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:07 pm

betiko wrote:You guys seem not to understand something. there is a freaking townie killer running out there and it's not me. There is no reviver left so we need to out him before it's too late. I am openly admitting I killed inactives from time to time this game and I am willing to give you the list and cooperate (all being elder things and unaligned joats).
I am almost sure the town killer is rishaed, if he is willing to cooperate though giving his night actions, like i will do as well, and like i'd like jonty to he might be cleared.
I don't see why you guys rush days in 3-4 real days to enter in 5 real days nights. Town has killing roles as well. The whole "bah we'll deal with it tommorow" shit is pure lazyness at best. we can deal with several kills per night, let's find the killer before night phase guys.

Rishaed, if I was a SK, wouldn't I try to kill nendreel first so they don't come back?? he has been killed by hippo who has admitted it. Again dodging my question: do you have a problem with giving all your night actions so far? do you have a problem with other killing roles admitting who they killed so far?? I have proofs that I had other actions nights that townies were killed. You are hidding something ugly.

No I don't mind giving my Night actions, however the question in color, I had asked just above as well. N7 I attempted to vig Doom, seeing as i perceived cult to be a threat at that time (as you can see i failed)N8 I slept and received a 1-shot Doc, which i then used last night on Nendreel, but looking at the flavor from the scene Hippo went through it and it wasn't effective. "the all attempts to help were in vain" part.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:52 pm

betiko wrote:You guys seem not to understand something. there is a freaking townie killer running out there and it's not me.


In the following post you admit to killing:

betiko wrote:
new guy1 wrote:He was correct. We switch bodies when we take over their mind. It means that either he is the one that was switched when kanin died, or commander switched and chap died in his body. I dont know though, because commander has not messaged me with any information recently. I think he is on vacation or something cause I havent heard from him in a while, but to clear it up, it is correct. It means chap died, not whoever was in his body. Also, to those killing the yith, unless it is your WC to kill us, you shouldnt kill us as we are a waste of your time. Or at least I am, since I havent switched bodies for a solid 3 nights. Or was it 2? I dont even know, lol.


I tried to kill chap that night (8) and I'm pretty sure I killed kanin by accident (the night saf got killed). The night (7) spiesr got killed I slept and got the mason ability for the following night+day that I used on IB. IB did confirm this fact 2 days ago. Last night (9) I tried to kill chap again and got him; just surprised about the result. This means there is a busdriver or something. I have absolutely no problem giving my list of actions night by night since the start; all my night kills have been about removing dead weight which I am ready to reveal if everybody does. I have already discussed some of my actions with spiesr who can come and confirm. My 2 biggest suspects for killing town are jonty and rishaed. Surprisingly rishaed jumps on my wagon lol.
Afraid to give all your night by night actions rishaed??? Is it because I asked you if you killed after night 8? bring it on, same with jonty. I can be 100% honnest and give away all my actions; town aren't killing town so has to be unaligned joats. Also PCM has probably done a few kills for nendreel, because the odds of reviving targeted people like they did are extremely low. I doubt he has no killing ability.

also, interesting to see that IB used his worship ability just like vodean; chap, edoc & chuck didn't.

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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby betiko on Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:38 pm

yes and? I admitted killing elder things and unaligned joats. I am looking for the townie killer, what do you not understand doom? I guess at this point you understand unaligned humans are not townies. We have no proofs that cult stopped existing after jak's death, nor that zombies lose their abilities. Looks like you have a problem with me trying to protect townies. My killings have narrowed down the townie killer. What exactly are you acusing me of doom? I am obviously doing something against your interests with that town killer hunt.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:42 pm

If you know that jonty, Rodion and spiesr all have killing abilities, what more are you looking for? Isn't that enough?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby betiko on Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:48 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:If you know that jonty, Rodion and spiesr all have killing abilities, what more are you looking for? Isn't that enough?


wow. so now rodion has a killing ability. I thought you said that zombies had no abilities and he's a zombie just like you, which you obviously know. nice slip about that BS you came up with regarding zombies who lose their abilities.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby spiesr on Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:57 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:If you know that jonty, Rodion and spiesr all have killing abilities, what more are you looking for? Isn't that enough?
I have not successfully killed anyone thus far.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Seven

Postby thehippo8 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:16 pm

Nendreel wrote:Role math time again. I modified Rodion's list from D5 to save time.

26 players

3 Elder Things (Lovo, CM5, ghostly)
3 Yith (Kanin, Comm9, NG1)
1 Shoggoth (elon)
1 Black Brotherhood Leader (Strike)
2 Re-Animators (Nen, PCM)
1 Recruiter (Jak)
9 Unaligned JOAT Humans (Chuck, Yoshi, Betiko, Rishaed, Edoc, Vodean, IB, Jonty, chap)
3 Town JOAT humans (Saf, Rodion, spiesr)
1 Town dreamer king (Soundman)
1 Outer God (Hippo)
1 Other (Witt)
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I thought it was time that I reposted this.

Just a reminder of why Nendreel needed to go. It is also a reminder of a skewed world of unreality. Those of you who know you are in the wrong place and/or know that others are listed in places that should be - take heed.

Compare this to:

betiko wrote:ok just a little recap isn't going to hurt anybody, as you can see all townies have been targeted at some point, even though they are all here. It's definitely someone's win condition to kill them all:

DoomYoshi: normal unaligned? human(targeted twice, zombie, cult)
betiko: normal unaligned? human (killing ability)
jonty125: normal unaligned? human (killing ability)
rishaed: normal unaligned? human (aligned to hippo then changed to survivor? killing ability?)

new guy1, yith
Commander9, yith (cult)

thehippo8, human form yog (killing ability)

pancakemix, reviver doc (killing ability?)

Rodion town joat (targeted twice, zombie, killing ability)
soundman, town dreamer (revived, killing ability?)
spiesr, town doc (revived, formerly? insane, killing ability)
safariguy5, town joat (revived, killing ability?)

also, how can chapcrap be in a yith body and not the other way around? / did you get that right?


Aside from the revived - Rodion and Rishaed stick out like sore thumbs!

Rishaed has been all over the place and playing far too scummy to keep around. He has tried to fly under the radar and until now done a pretty good job of it. But your number is up buddy! Vote Rishaed.

@ Betico - There is an often misunderstood misconnection between the book The King in Yellow by Robert W. Chambers (1895) and the Lovecraft version. H.P. Lovecraft read Chambers book in early 1927 and included passing references in his own writings (ie, the Lake of Hali and the Yellow Sign—in "The Whisperer in Darkness" (1931), one of his seminal Cthulhu Mythos stories). Lovecraft borrowed Chambers' method of only vaguely referring to supernatural events, entities, and places, thereby allowing his readers to imagine the horror for themselves. The imaginary play The King in Yellow effectively became another piece of occult literature in the Cthulhu Mythos alongside the Necronomicon and others. In the story, Lovecraft linked the Yellow Sign to Hastur. Hastur (The Unspeakable One, Him Who Is Not to be Named, Assatur, Xastur, or Kaiwan) is a fictional entity (Great Old One) of the Cthulhu Mythos. The King in Yellow is merely one of many aspects of this potent and truly amorphous denizen.

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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby rishaed on Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:10 am

If you Would be so kind to point out where I have been scummy then maybe I could actually argue with you, sir Hippo. Understandably I was scummy earlier refusing to give up who u was aligned with ( you), sir Hippo. Other than that I have been honest and in towns best interest the entire game. I object being called scummy by someone who killed our reviver thus keeping our numbers even these past several nights. Even I do not see your logic, and I suspect if we can get jonty to lynch you then you like lilwitt will die from the game. IMHO other than the SK or possibly from flavor sks
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Ten

Postby rishaed on Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:11 am

If you Would be so kind to point out where I have been scummy then maybe I could actually argue with you, sir Hippo. Understandably I was scummy earlier refusing to give up who u was aligned with ( you), sir Hippo. Other than that I have been honest and in towns best interest the entire game. I object being called scummy by someone who killed our reviver thus keeping our numbers even these past several nights. Even I do not see your logic, and I suspect if we can get jonty to lynch you then you like lilwitt will die from the game. IMHO other than the SK or possibly from flavor sks you are a town threat who will likely kill the doc tonight.
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