[Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 4/18 Blue. Town&DEA+rug win

[StorrZerg]

ok, care to go a little further now that you got your reactions?

[iAmCaffeine]

ok, care to go a little further now that you got your reactions?

I'd rather see your reads before anyone else's.

[StorrZerg]

Well Caff ill give my read on you boy (or girl)

I'm also wondering if all roles will be PRs or some will just be named characters without any powers. I expect the latter but there's always the possibility. I've only played with Fircoal as the host so I've learnt to expect anything.

I would like to point out that virus and I are friends and in the same clan. That is why I was aware of his real life situations making him quiet everywhere, not just here. I am not buddying or pushing him; I posted as I didn't know when he would make an appearance.

Suspecting players of being scum because they lurk is not the best basis.

I have a townread or two at the moment, nothing more.

lurking with lack of content is bad. i disagree with you, i think it is great to push on in actives and get them to post their opinions on the game. If an inactive does not contribute to this game i think they should be lynched.
As for you having town reads that's great! I shouldn't have to beat you with a stick to get that information out. You giving your input and reads, can help lead to more discussion. So to say you have reads, and not give them, i dislike that. I tend to lean scum motivation for holding back on the read.

I don't have a FoS by the way. You've read too much into what I'm doing.

Oh I know you don't have a FOS on him [that been X-Stor-X] but in my head it came out with a sinistery, mafia-y, voice. And for the record, no I don't, read what everyone says aloud with different voices.

I know what I was saying could have sounded scummy. That's why I was giving both good and bad perspectives. Also, pushing slightly on X-Stor-X has given me more reads.

ok, so you have made a few posts on the fence. "could be this or that" "well this for town or this for mafia" you are not putting yourself out there. I find this is what scum tend to do. They like to present things, but to not actually contribute. Give an opinion, but not be rubbing against anyone else. I have no idea what you think about myself, because you keep presenting both sides with out saying what you think.

So my opinion on you iamcaffeine is neutral.

[StorrZerg]

forgot to add something in

"I'm also wondering if all roles will be PRs or some will just be named characters without any powers. I expect the latter but there's always the possibility. I've only played with Fircoal as the host so I've learnt to expect anything."

I don't like this question. This imo could be role fishing. I really don't see the benefit of this if we get to know the answer ON day 1. I see this as a bigger possibility of slips coming from continued talk about this question, and a negative impact.

[iAmCaffeine]

forgot to add something in

"I'm also wondering if all roles will be PRs or some will just be named characters without any powers. I expect the latter but there's always the possibility. I've only played with Fircoal as the host so I've learnt to expect anything."

I don't like this question. This imo could be role fishing. I really don't see the benefit of this if we get to know the answer ON day 1. I see this as a bigger possibility of slips coming from continued talk about this question, and a negative impact.

It is not role fishing. I almost added to that comment that I'm not role fishing but decided it wouldn't be necessary as nobody would be that stupid. Some of my other comments could be portrayed as being on the fence, or simply providing both perspectives. Interpret them to benefit you as much as you want.

I would rather lurkers/inactives are replaced, not lynched. That is a waste of a lynch and possibly killing of a valuable town role. Lynching them for being inactive is foolish, especially so early in the game.

My current townread is cooldeals. He has so far been consistent whilst a mixture of joke votes have been dumped on him.

My main scumread is you, especially given your OMGUS against me.

[StorrZerg]

forgot to add something in

"I'm also wondering if all roles will be PRs or some will just be named characters without any powers. I expect the latter but there's always the possibility. I've only played with Fircoal as the host so I've learnt to expect anything."

I don't like this question. This imo could be role fishing. I really don't see the benefit of this if we get to know the answer ON day 1. I see this as a bigger possibility of slips coming from continued talk about this question, and a negative impact.

It is not role fishing. I almost added to that comment that I'm not role fishing but decided it wouldn't be necessary as nobody would be that stupid. Some of my other comments could be portrayed as being on the fence, or simply providing both perspectives. Interpret them to benefit you as much as you want.

I would rather lurkers/inactives are replaced, not lynched. That is a waste of a lynch and possibly killing of a valuable town role. Lynching them for being inactive is foolish, especially so early in the game.

My current townread is cooldeals. He has so far been consistent whilst a mixture of joke votes have been dumped on him.

My main scumread is you, especially given your OMGUS against me.

and your second town read.

[StorrZerg]

if you need clarity iamcaffine, i said i have a neutral read on you yet because you are not putting your own reads out. Now you just posted 2 reads, a town and a scum. Great!

You have written quite a few posts with me in them, yet your biggest and only reason as of what i can see why you don't "like me" is OMGUS. tbh i don't like that term. I would rather you "spell out" why you think i'm scum.

As for your town read, has cooldeals made a post regarding someone that you liked? do you agree with a town read he has, a scum read? if so who?

[iAmCaffeine]

forgot to add something in

"I'm also wondering if all roles will be PRs or some will just be named characters without any powers. I expect the latter but there's always the possibility. I've only played with Fircoal as the host so I've learnt to expect anything."

I don't like this question. This imo could be role fishing. I really don't see the benefit of this if we get to know the answer ON day 1. I see this as a bigger possibility of slips coming from continued talk about this question, and a negative impact.

It is not role fishing. I almost added to that comment that I'm not role fishing but decided it wouldn't be necessary as nobody would be that stupid. Some of my other comments could be portrayed as being on the fence, or simply providing both perspectives. Interpret them to benefit you as much as you want.

I would rather lurkers/inactives are replaced, not lynched. That is a waste of a lynch and possibly killing of a valuable town role. Lynching them for being inactive is foolish, especially so early in the game.

My current townread is cooldeals. He has so far been consistent whilst a mixture of joke votes have been dumped on him.

My main scumread is you, especially given your OMGUS against me.

and your second town read.

I will choose not to share that for now. You try to get information from other people far too much compared to how much you share.

[StorrZerg]

Well surely you can share more about your opinion on me!

[iAmCaffeine]

Well surely you can share more about your opinion on me!

I don't see any need to. I have explained already.

[Anarkistsdream]

X-stor, push their buttons, dude... PUSH THEIR BUTTONS!



No but seriously... You are playing the game a little too fast and loose. Jumping on everyone's back is just a way to get yourself lynched, regardless of your alignment.

And, on that note, I am gonna go smoke some meth.

[StorrZerg]

X-stor, push their buttons, dude... PUSH THEIR BUTTONS!



No but seriously... You are playing the game a little too fast and loose. Jumping on everyone's back is just a way to get yourself lynched, regardless of your alignment.

And, on that note, I am gonna go smoke some meth.

o baby thanks for the warning

[betiko]

X-stor, push their buttons, dude... PUSH THEIR BUTTONS!



No but seriously... You are playing the game a little too fast and loose. Jumping on everyone's back is just a way to get yourself lynched, regardless of your alignment.

And, on that note, I am gonna go smoke some meth.

is it blue? and if it is who is your supplier?

[Anarkistsdream]

X-stor, push their buttons, dude... PUSH THEIR BUTTONS!



No but seriously... You are playing the game a little too fast and loose. Jumping on everyone's back is just a way to get yourself lynched, regardless of your alignment.

And, on that note, I am gonna go smoke some meth.

is it blue? and if it is who is your supplier?

All I know is they call him Heisenberg... I mean, it isn't like I hang out on street corners where kids ride their bikes

[rishaed]

X-stor, push their buttons, dude... PUSH THEIR BUTTONS!



No but seriously... You are playing the game a little too fast and loose. Jumping on everyone's back is just a way to get yourself lynched, regardless of your alignment.

And, on that note, I am gonna go smoke some meth.

is it blue? and if it is who is your supplier?

All I know is they call him Heisenberg... I mean, it isn't like I hang out on street corners where kids ride their bikes

How certain are you of that? I mean there is the Heisenberg uncertainty principle you know?

On to better things, First off, I like, Betiko, think that inactives are a decent route for D1 (not really for other days though), so Vote Flores. Second off Im somewhat on the fence about Rugbirn. He says in principle quantity over quality, and while I agree, I don't think that his recent posts are very informative, and disagree that one-liners can have decent quality.
I will say that X-Stor-x has been pretty benificially keeping the game moving on D1 which can become difficult, so props for that. Also deadline is March 4th, 1/2 weeks ish out? I feel that most have been pretty good about participation, but some are becoming lurking variables (got some stats in here )

[pancakemix]

X-stor, push their buttons, dude... PUSH THEIR BUTTONS!



No but seriously... You are playing the game a little too fast and loose. Jumping on everyone's back is just a way to get yourself lynched, regardless of your alignment.

And, on that note, I am gonna go smoke some meth.

Very true. I like how you're making things happen, but generally different playstyles don't go over well here at first blush, if you'll forgive the meta.

As far as what you've made happen, I wouldn't put a ton of stock in your cases. They're primarily on people who I don't know and, for better or worse, therefore assume don't have much experience (and I think the reality is that's fairly true). The most you could probably pursue there is who lashes out when backed into a corner, and even that doesn't indicate much knowing some of the personalities at play (again, forgive the meta).

But in the immortal words of Jesse Pinkman, "If you add a plus douchebag to a minus douchebag, you get like, zero douchebags". Or, in this case, two uncertainties cancel out. And right now IAmCaffeine fits that bill, considering his main scum read is an (ironic) OMGUS and he decided he wasn't going to share his second town read, which doesn't make a lot of sense for us given this early stage of the game because everything we can get is helpful right now, even if it is just conjecture.

Is that grounds for a vote? Not just yet, I think. But it's worth keeping an eye on for now.

[StorrZerg]

well mr pancakemix, what do you think of cooldeals or virus?

Or do you have a scum read on someone you would like to share?

[pancakemix]

well mr pancakemix, what do you think of cooldeals or virus?

Or do you have a scum read on someone you would like to share?

Insufficient data. Seems goodnatured, but that speaks to the poster and not of his posts. There's nothing to read but inactivity, if you choose to read that.

Town read. Definitely seems to be trying to help us make progress (see: the brief case on Rugbirn), perhaps a little offput (even suspicious) by your playstyle, which he sees as aggressive

My strongest scum read as of now is Caffeine. See above for that.

[strike wolf]

Flores has requested replacement.

[strike wolf]

Metsfanmax replaces Flores.

[rishaed]

Flores has requested replacement.

If that was gonna happen I wouldn't 'ave voted him. Next Time for sure.unvote. Everyone else seems somewhat active. I'll wait a day maybe to see what else is going on. However Rugbirn did say he was in for quality posting, still waiting for some in terms of things that have been discussed I admit Caffiene is interesting, but I am going to hold off until tomorrow on him as well.

[Metsfanmax]

My contribution to the flavor spec: since strike said that it comes mainly from season 1 to 4, I expect that Gus would be the main mafia head. The Salamancas/Crazy 8/etc. have a complicated relationship with that syndicate, though, so it's not clear that they'd be on the same faction as Gus. And I bet the Twins are involved somehow. I would put Saul, Mike, Jesse and Huell (possibly) on the same side. Possibly town. If not, then what kinds of characters would be town? Probably Walt Jr., Marie, Skyler, Hank, Gomez, etc. Definitely potential for many factions that need to achieve different goals. If there was stuff from S5 I might say that Walter White is a lyncher against the Nazis or something, but that seems unlikely.

My reads so far: not much. X-stor might be scum and playing on his seemingly newb level to take advantage of us. Not sure how people are generating town reads on cd; I'm a little wary of why pcm would so easily say that moving along a minor case is a town tell.

[StorrZerg]

@Metsfanmax interesting opinion about myself, even though im pushing on CD and you seem to have the same thought.

Does that mean anything to you?

[StorrZerg]

well maybe not same thought, but you are questioning people "town reading him"

you care to give your read on CD

[StorrZerg]

Flores has requested replacement.

If that was gonna happen I wouldn't 'ave voted him. Next Time for sure.unvote. Everyone else seems somewhat active. I'll wait a day maybe to see what else is going on. However Rugbirn did say he was in for quality posting, still waiting for some in terms of things that have been discussed I admit Caffiene is interesting, but I am going to hold off until tomorrow on him as well.

silly thing to say. you had a good reason to vote him. People who are inactive should be pressured. i find it odd you feel "sorry" you pressured an inactive.

unless you are too busy, i would like you to provide some input.