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[Lootifer]

Since we are getting close to deadline can people start justifying their horse exhanges? At least this way we might be able gain *something* from the death.

will post more tonight when I at home. Phone posting is killing ne right now

[Lootifer]

Ebwop: Horse exchanges* aka blah blah thats my horse

[HotShot53]

Since we are getting close to deadline can people start justifying their horse exhanges? At least this way we might be able gain *something* from the death.

will post more tonight when I at home. Phone posting is killing ne right now

As long as it's more than 24 hours before the deadline (as it currently is), the horse exchange doesn't mean anything as long as they log in during the next 24 hours. So I just gave it to nark again since everyone else already had a second turn at being "it". Obviously if someone gives it to me less than 24 hours before the deadline, I would then come up with a rational as to whom to give it to that might result in their death. Not like there is much to go on though, unfortunately, and I wouldn't be completely surprised if we're all town so we lose no matter who ends up without a horse.

[Anarkistsdream]

I agree with this pretty much 100%. He's been particularly harsh on spiesr for what amounts to a minor infraction (if it was even accurate, which it isn't). I don't really see a reason for that other than trying to inflate a case.

-Tails

Are you seriously saying that is me playing out of character? Hello, maybe you remember me? Jesus, what weak sauce... Nor will I bow down for this crap. Did I vote Spies? Did I push anyone to do anything? No... I commented that I think people not knowing the RULES OF THE GAME THEY ARE PLAYING IS DUMB.... Read that again if you need to... I'll wait. If you disagree, we probably wouldn't get along too well in real life. Because I expect people to know what to expect and how to play.

Since we are getting close to deadline can people start justifying their horse exhanges? At least this way we might be able gain *something* from the death.

will post more tonight when I at home. Phone posting is killing ne right now

As long as it's more than 24 hours before the deadline (as it currently is), the horse exchange doesn't mean anything as long as they log in during the next 24 hours. So I just gave it to nark again since everyone else already had a second turn at being "it". Obviously if someone gives it to me less than 24 hours before the deadline, I would then come up with a rational as to whom to give it to that might result in their death. Not like there is much to go on though, unfortunately, and I wouldn't be completely surprised if we're all town so we lose no matter who ends up without a horse.

That was what I just went back to check... It seems that it has been taken from all of us twice...

Hell, I don't know who should be horseless. In my honest opinion... The person who it should be taken from is the person who is most likely to not post for over 24 hours. That is the safest bet for the rest of the group. *shrug*


Virus90, that's my horse!

[aage]

I agree with this pretty much 100%. He's been particularly harsh on spiesr for what amounts to a minor infraction (if it was even accurate, which it isn't). I don't really see a reason for that other than trying to inflate a case.

-Tails

Are you seriously saying that is me playing out of character? Hello, maybe you remember me? Jesus, what weak sauce... Nor will I bow down for this crap. Did I vote Spies? Did I push anyone to do anything? No... I commented that I think people not knowing the RULES OF THE GAME THEY ARE PLAYING IS DUMB.... Read that again if you need to... I'll wait. If you disagree, we probably wouldn't get along too well in real life. Because I expect people to know what to expect and how to play.

Why don't you respond to my original post while you're at it? Also, ad hominem noted.

[aage]

While I'm responding...

Hell, I don't know who should be horseless. In my honest opinion... The person who it should be taken from is the person who is most likely to not post for over 24 hours. That is the safest bet for the rest of the group. *shrug*

Why do you think that the person who isn't online for 24 hours is most likely to be scum? In my experience, the exact opposite is true.

[Iron Butterfly]

@Lootifer. I do not believe any of the 5 need to rationalize who they give the horse to if the alternative is death.

[DoomYoshi]

I have no idea why doom voted for whatsausage... whatsausage's post made more sense than doom's post did to me lol.

Awesome. Since you understand it so much, you can explain to me exactly which rule edocsil did not read and how his post indicates that.

[Anarkistsdream]

Why don't you respond to my original post while you're at it? Also, ad hominem noted.

Sorry, dude. I don't see what it was you are referring to. Please point it out to me...

While I'm responding...

Hell, I don't know who should be horseless. In my honest opinion... The person who it should be taken from is the person who is most likely to not post for over 24 hours. That is the safest bet for the rest of the group. *shrug*

Why do you think that the person who isn't online for 24 hours is most likely to be scum? In my experience, the exact opposite is true.

When did I say that the person who didn't respond in 24 hours is scum??? *looks around* Oh, I didn't... You put words in my mouth... Again. But I am the one who is scummy... Please. *roll*

And, exactly what IB said... What do you mean, give a reason? The reason is they have a damn horse and I need one to make it TO the night, let alone what may happen DURING the night. We have no idea what this game mechanic is, does, where it comes from, and when or if it will end. All we can do is hope we are the one who doesn't get caught without it.

[Nebuchadnezer]

This horse game is getting us nowhere...

[aage]

@Lootifer. I do not believe any of the 5 need to rationalize who they give the horse to if the alternative is death.

I was going to post the same, but it's not entirely true. Staying alive is obvious. However, there is a choice between the 4 other players and since the deadline is looming, gifting the horse is a quite expressive desire to see the target dead rather than any of the other three. Succombing to randomness until the music stops will never help town, and since apparently some of the players believe there can be scum (or even, that there likely is scum) between the five, I'd like to see some action backing up that claim.

FP'd by Anark.
Dude, my post is quoted in the post by Tailgunner which you quoted in your post. You simply conveniently cut out my post and only responded to Tails. And I'm not going to quote it for you because you probably purposely ignored it, and I'd really enjoy seeing you use yet another excuse to stall. "Read that again if you need to", pot, kettle, bla bla.

In regards to the second part of your post, I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm simply adding them up. You mentioned twice that you consider that there could be one scum among you five. I expect that, as a good townie, you want to kill the scum. Hence, you must be dying to find out which of you five is scum so that you can unsaddle him at the end of the day. Since you clearly are not, I must conclude that either (a) you decided that the idea that there was scum amongst you is stupid in the first place, else you'd be building cases against the other four and not against voteless outsiders, or (b) you do not want to kill scum. Pick your poison.

[sheepofdumb]

So right now we have a Plinko wagon forming for an alleged OMGUS on somebody who is voteless. Read that last one if it doesn't make sense. This is a dumb wagon.

@edoc: when he posted the groupings of the strike wolf's train was that also just an attempt to appear townish.

unvote vote no lynch

Right now, the horse game will take a random and I'd much prefer a random than jak. Due to deadline, it's probably getting close to claimtime jak.

13. Each game ‘day’ will last SEVEN 24 hour days. I will remind everyone if the deadline is near, and to look toward voting. If no majority is reached at the end of the deadline if made, the player with the most votes will be lynched and the game will enter into the night phase. In the event of a tie, the lynchee will be determined by a 24-hour final ballot in which every player casts a final (no changes) vote for ANY player. If there is still a tie, a runoff ballot will be held between the two or more who tied. The deadline may be extended upon request.

So it appears to me, that jak + horseless is going to die as things stand. I'm going to vote No Lynch, two deaths on D1, is not going to help us. Particularly with the horse game been random, and lets say we get someone to claim, we need to get no lynch back in the majority in order to keep them alive, which, I doubt we can do in 2 days.

Even with the forced lynch rule voting no lynch two days out from the deadline is counter productive to the town. As it stands Jak and the horse victim will die and we won't have any useful information. Early game intel is important for town power roles to be effective. Going no lynch on the last 24 hours of the day phase isn't a bad idea. Before that time comes though we need to force a few role claims. Yeah, it sucks rooting out a townie. But if you force a scum to claim their claim can be verified over night.

FOS Doom and Jonty cus I don't know who I'm going to vote for yet.

[DoomYoshi]

Before that time comes though we need to force a few role claims. Yeah, it sucks rooting out a townie. But if you force a scum to claim their claim can be verified over night.

FOS Doom and Jonty cus I don't know who I'm going to vote for yet.

In the post you quoted, I asked for a roleclaim...

[HotShot53]

I have no idea why doom voted for whatsausage... whatsausage's post made more sense than doom's post did to me lol.

Awesome. Since you understand it so much, you can explain to me exactly which rule edocsil did not read and how his post indicates that.

I believe what whatsausage was saying was that just because you picked a character and got a suitable role for them, the rule says alignment is random so it doesn't in any way prove whether you are town or scum or third party or whatever because of your character/role. whatsausage didn't exactly state it the best, and was a bit condescending... but I still don't see what in his post was worthy of a vote against him.

[jak111]

Actually I just noticed that majority at deadline thing. Vote No-Lynch. Keeping my eyes on people wanting two deaths D1. We're getting a death no matter what. No need to make two town deaths in a single day before we even get a chance to begin using our actions.

[sheepofdumb]

Before that time comes though we need to force a few role claims. Yeah, it sucks rooting out a townie. But if you force a scum to claim their claim can be verified over night.

FOS Doom and Jonty cus I don't know who I'm going to vote for yet.

In the post you quoted, I asked for a roleclaim...

You asked him to claim two days out from the end of the day and voted no lynch. That's one of the most non-threatening role claim requests I've ever seen.

[Anarkistsdream]

Alright, so let's take this as it comes, shall we?

First, to answer aage... What question? You didn't ask one anywhere in this

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So... Would you like to point out the question here? Because I don't see one...

Why are you pushing me so hard? All you have is a bunch of WIFOM and the fact that OHMIGOD real life is more important to me than this game. You have been very aggressive toward me, demeaning to me, and I frankly don't think that I have done anything to earn your ire. You then talk down to me as if I haven't been participating or like I don't know what I am talking about, but you said answer your question and THERE ISN'T ONE...

How about you quit being a fucking dick and actually make a true point? I have done NOTHING in this game aside from think that not knowing the rules is idiotic... Tell me how else I have been so bad? By having real life come up? By not having posted ANYWHERE on the boards during those times, and having to quickly make moves on my cell phone?

I really don't see where
1) the rage and anger and demeaning attitude you have toward me is coming from
2) why you think what I did was so scummy to begin with

Then I thought about it. You have been super aggressive at me only after I said something to Spiesr... After that, it was all hands on deck against me. In my opinion, that makes an easy choice... You and Spiesr are a team. Because there is NO other logical reason for you to become so obsessed and belligerent.

So, I will say this, make a real point or back off... Ask a real question or go jack it on a street corner in San Diego... Because I have done nothing wrong and I don't intend as a player or a person to put up with your attitude. This is a game and is supposed to be fun for us... Everyone, not just you... Now make a case or unvote...

Lastly, my bolded part of your comment- which is in the spoilers- sending in Dr. Evil would NOT GRANT YOU SCUM... How dare you even say that. Because that means you are saying that PCM lied and would not RANDOMLY ASSIGN ALIGNMENTS... Which YOU would know if you read the rules... So, again, your arguments are meaningless and void of points, just easily dismissable WIFOM and anger.

So, get your panties out of the twist.. .Take a breath and remember, it's just a game... But know the rules of the game you are playing.

-Danny

[strike wolf]

Alright, after almost 4 full days of no internet, I am back and caught up (though may need to reread some things). Anyways. For my activity report. KGB has posted recently.

As far as cases, the Jak case has been interesting though I am hesitant to vote him because the claim makes sense. Overall, I find his defense of the OMGus vote and his defense for defending Rodion worse than his initial statements on both. His reasoning for saying it wasn't an OMGus was weak at best. The spiesr didn't have a vote is a non-contingency unless he knew and remembered that Spiesr didn't have a vote which from context was obviously not the case. Furthermore, relying on the strict definition of an OMGus vote over defending the reasoning behind the vote, is not strong logic. A good player knows to disguise an OMGus vote that is why people get voted in the manner that Jak did. I also disagree with him on the Rodion argument. Rodion is a veteran, he is a good player. When I put him under the spotlight, take it as a compliment from me to him. Veterans in general are difficult to trip up, good players even more so. That is why I find it generally a good idea that when one of them does make small slips, you question them and force them to defend themselves. It is a much better plan then relying on them to slip up later on in the game, IMO. I can live with your reasoning to keep Rodion alive and I definitely do not like the idea of lynching him for little to no reason but a. I don't feel like that was anywhere close to happening and b. your zealous defense of Rodion over a fairly small attack seems over defensive. Where is the love for the other veterans?

As far as the horse game, I have no strong feelings on scum there. However, I will say that Virus has given me mostly town vibes and I, at this point, trust him over the other four.

[DoomYoshi]

I have no idea why doom voted for whatsausage... whatsausage's post made more sense than doom's post did to me lol.

Awesome. Since you understand it so much, you can explain to me exactly which rule edocsil did not read and how his post indicates that.

I believe what whatsausage was saying was that just because you picked a character and got a suitable role for them, the rule says alignment is random so it doesn't in any way prove whether you are town or scum or third party or whatever because of your character/role. whatsausage didn't exactly state it the best, and was a bit condescending... but I still don't see what in his post was worthy of a vote against him.

So how does that in any way relate to what edocsil said?

[strike wolf]

Oh and the Doomyoshi thing, I see some craziness but so far I haven't seen any craziness that exceeds normal Doomyoshi craziness.

[kgb007]

unvote vote nark

Settle down, the only one raging is you. I personally don't want to play with someone who can't control their anger. Do you rant like this in real life?

[Anarkistsdream]

unvote vote nark

Settle down, the only one raging is you. I personally don't want to play with someone who can't control their anger. Do you rant like this in real life?

... excuse me?

What bs... Again... as if this is any different then any other game I am in.

And after being verbally abused for several posts, yeah, I will rant, and yes, it was justified... So what he was saying to me was fine for multiple posts, but me standing up for myself is ranting?

You all are ridiculous.

[pancakemix]

Tick. Tick. Tick. A clock chimes the hour. Tick Tick Tick. A cold wind blows. Something is amiss. Tickticktick. The sky grows dark. People look around. There is confusion. Tictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictic. Tick. Tick. Tick. Things return to normal. The sun rests low in the western sky.

The Day has been ended and it is now Dusk.

You may continue to post, but no further votes will be counted. A final vote count count will be upcoming. A scene will be posted by tomorrow afternoon.

[spiesr]

So how does that in any way relate to what edocsil said?

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I think that Whatsuasage thought that edoc'sil was referring to alignment and not just role when he said the flavor matched his character.

[Rodion]

Before that time comes though we need to force a few role claims. Yeah, it sucks rooting out a townie. But if you force a scum to claim their claim can be verified over night.

FOS Doom and Jonty cus I don't know who I'm going to vote for yet.

In the post you quoted, I asked for a roleclaim...

You asked him to claim two days out from the end of the day and voted no lynch. That's one of the most non-threatening role claim requests I've ever seen.

I wouldn't say you asked him to claim, Yoshi. What I interpret as asking is something in the lines of "I find you scummy and intend to vote/lynch you, unless you claim and that claim is strong enough to convince me otherwise". What you basically said was "I have no problem with you, Jak, but since other people do and you're currently the biggest wagon, I advise you to claim".

Fastposted: so, does that mean Virus is dead?