Mafia and You

[Fircoal]

Of course there's some vets still active I like as scum as you and Sierra, but I was more meaning scumzors as "the one I will vote day 1" kind like Sierra and Kalish

again, how about me?

[nagerous]

You're not active.

[ga7]

That. And I prefer Nag as pro-town hero (which he almost always is anyway)

[jnd94]

lol chu, feelin low on your self-esteem?

[Fircoal]

lol chu, feelin low on your self-esteem?

yes... :/

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Might want to also post that "vote hopping" is generally considered a scumtell and maybe expand further on the different types of games that we have here in regards to the c-9, cc-9, non-vanilla, themed etc... and the recommended experience level for them like

c-9 and cc-9 for noobs
non-vanilla intermediate to advanced although it is sometimes fun to watch a noob screw up a power role like kwan did for me in his first game
themed beginner, intermediate, and advanced although usually best to ask the mod about it as most themed games are for at least intermediate levels.

[Its Bolt]

For more tells standard to slightly complex, you can add

Fencing - Players who never take strong stances except on players who the town as a whole have started to declare town or scum are more often scum then not. These types of views are common from scum and (unfortunately) new town given that they are easy to change when needed, without going against something they have said before and being called out on changing a stance at a time that is convinant to them. If not lynched these players should be forced to give some in depth opinions of people.

Action/Vote descrepincies - This one is pretty simple, but at the same time hard to figure out when its an actual tell. If a player starts attacking a player to an ammount where suspicion is obvious to an observer, but has a vote on a higher wagon, watch the person who was attacked. Distancing is best done when a partner is under either no suspicion, or is in a bad place. If a player is attacking scum when they have no chance of being lynched, they are more then likely scum just gaining town points for whoever dies first. This also applies to pushing a townie wagon while keeping a vote on a player who is not getting too many votes, regardless of the voted players alignment.

Chainsaw Defense - If townie A is attacking scum B, at times a defensive manuver by the scum C is to attack townie A. This indirectly defends his parter on two terms. First, townie A gains suspicion, and if the case is strong enough, may draw votes away from scum B. Second though is having townie A under suspicion does hurt his case since people begin to doubt his alignment more then they would with no case out there. If player B flips town, player C is a good vig the next night.

A few more uncommon but good roles

Weak doctor - Acts like a normal doctor, but if they protect mafia they get killed
Hider - Chooses a player to hide with and is safe from all night actions, if they hide with mafia or a player who gets killed they die
Watcher - Gets the names of all people who targeted the player he watches
Tracker - Gets the name of anyone his target targeted
Bus Driver - Switches two players so anyone targeting one targets the other

[Nickbaldwin]

For more tells standard to slightly complex, you can add

Fencing - Players who never take strong stances except on players who the town as a whole have started to declare town or scum are more often scum then not. These types of views are common from scum and (unfortunately) new town given that they are easy to change when needed, without going against something they have said before and being called out on changing a stance at a time that is convinant to them. If not lynched these players should be forced to give some in depth opinions of people.

You're not taking into account an individuals personality. Some players tend to be like this, because they are not confident, maybe because they haven't played many games or maybe because they were lynched for being outspoken before.

[Its Bolt]

For more tells standard to slightly complex, you can add

Fencing - Players who never take strong stances except on players who the town as a whole have started to declare town or scum are more often scum then not. These types of views are common from scum and (unfortunately) new town given that they are easy to change when needed, without going against something they have said before and being called out on changing a stance at a time that is convinant to them. If not lynched these players should be forced to give some in depth opinions of people.

You're not taking into account an individuals personality. Some players tend to be like this, because they are not confident, maybe because they haven't played many games or maybe because they were lynched for being outspoken before.

I actually see it as a very consistant scumtell, especially amung beginner scum who dont want to make waves at all. It takes some time to get confident, but confidence is something that eventually just comes naturally after you play enough games. If someone gets lynched for being outspoken as opposed to being craplogic though, chances are its scum driven since being vocal is something that is good for the town regardless of what the alignment of the outspoken is, as in a town gets their point accross and becomes dangerous for the town, and scum gets more attention and is more likely to slip or have something they say catch up to them.

[Suspect101]

I have been thinking about playing CC mafia for a few months now. I have been a member for almost a year and never posted. I first played the game on a church retreat and thought it was quite fun. I keep looking at the games, but I am scared to join because I am not exactly sure how to play the different styles or how well it works over the internet. In real life it works a little better because you can read people faces and expressions.

I am wondering if someone would be willing to moderate a generic mafia game for newcomers to get the hang of. I am also not sure of all of the acronyms like WIMOF (I think that is right, forgot where I saw this), FOS, JOAT and so on. If someone could post these that would be great as well. I just do not want to join and then do something silly and get myself or an innocent killed for not knowing how to play.

I have read all the rules and the basic information that jnd94 posted and all of the comments on this page. I have also been looking through a couple of the games and it seems really fun. So could someone do this for a beginner, or is this not going to happen and it is a sink or swim kind of deal?

Also I have been thinking about buying premium membership, but not sure if it is worth it. I constantly read about how people play too much and do not get enough done, but also hear about how fun speed games are. Can anyone please comment on this as well.

It would be really appreciated. Thanks

[pmchugh]

I have been thinking about playing CC mafia for a few months now. I have been a member for almost a year and never posted. I first played the game on a church retreat and thought it was quite fun. I keep looking at the games, but I am scared to join because I am not exactly sure how to play the different styles or how well it works over the internet. In real life it works a little better because you can read people faces and expressions.

I am wondering if someone would be willing to moderate a generic mafia game for newcomers to get the hang of. I am also not sure of all of the acronyms like WIMOF (I think that is right, forgot where I saw this), FOS, JOAT and so on. If someone could post these that would be great as well. I just do not want to join and then do something silly and get myself or an innocent killed for not knowing how to play.

I have read all the rules and the basic information that jnd94 posted and all of the comments on this page. I have also been looking through a couple of the games and it seems really fun. So could someone do this for a beginner, or is this not going to happen and it is a sink or swim kind of deal?

Also I have been thinking about buying premium membership, but not sure if it is worth it. I constantly read about how people play too much and do not get enough done, but also hear about how fun speed games are. Can anyone please comment on this as well.

It would be really appreciated. Thanks

Everyone starts out as a noob, feel free to join games and post as long as you follow the rules of the game you will be fine. Newbie games come up every now and then but if no-one does one soon just join a relatively simple game, if you've been watching for as long as you say you have I'm sure you'll be fine.

Acronyms:
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Commonly_used_abbreviations

[Suspect101]

Thank-you,

Your wiki page is very helpful.

[Gamefreakguy]

Hey guys, I have a question. I read through this topic and a few of the game topics and I can't understand how the story that the game is based off of has very much affect on the game. Does it?

Are people really playing the parts of the characters from the specific stories? Or is that just purely for entertainment purposes?

Thanks! This looks really interesting but right at this moment I can't commit the time to it.

[Skittles!]

The themes mods use for the mafia is mainly for entertainment. Of course, you don't need a theme to play mafia, however it allows the players and the mods to enjoy the game more. If a strict theme is picked, the game follows the storyline and so more things can be added.

Hope that helps.

[Serbia]

And by Sierra I meant Serbia.

I was going to complain too.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

The themes mods use for the mafia is mainly for entertainment. Of course, you don't need a theme to play mafia, however it allows the players and the mods to enjoy the game more. If a strict theme is picked, the game follows the storyline and so more things can be added.

Hope that helps.

Sometimes though mods just do that to add flavor while other times mods use it to make "sense" of roles. I known I intentionally don't try to get players to play the mod and have on more then one occasion had town kill off its own side by not believing how that character was listed since too me it is too easy to say Chief Wigham from Simpsons has to be the cop(not that I modded that game), but to me that is playing the mod instead of playing the actual game.

[Squirrels Hat]

I don't know if this is the right place to post questions on mafia, but I will anyway.

Do you guys have any sort of restrictions on who can mod a game? I was recently talking to an old friend of mine (who I used to play mafia with) and we were discussing some of the wacky roles that popped up in our old games. I was thinking of possibly making a game on this forum that included all of the strangest roles that I could remember from my old mafia forum. Am I allowed to, or do I have to do something in order to become a mod?

[AceArtemis]

I don't know if this is the right place to post questions on mafia, but I will anyway.

Do you guys have any sort of restrictions on who can mod a game? I was recently talking to an old friend of mine (who I used to play mafia with) and we were discussing some of the wacky roles that popped up in our old games. I was thinking of possibly making a game on this forum that included all of the strangest roles that I could remember from my old mafia forum. Am I allowed to, or do I have to do something in order to become a mod?

We don't have any restrictions about modding here, but nobody will join your game if they think you are a complete noob. So, you just have to show that you have some idea what you are doing, and you'll be good to go.

[pmchugh]

I don't know if this is the right place to post questions on mafia, but I will anyway.

Do you guys have any sort of restrictions on who can mod a game? I was recently talking to an old friend of mine (who I used to play mafia with) and we were discussing some of the wacky roles that popped up in our old games. I was thinking of possibly making a game on this forum that included all of the strangest roles that I could remember from my old mafia forum. Am I allowed to, or do I have to do something in order to become a mod?

I would back you as a mod you seem to know enough about mafia and if you have experience from elsewhere (or as a multi ) then go for it!

[Squirrels Hat]

I would back you as a mod you seem to know enough about mafia

Thanks, but I think I will wait a few games like Ace suggested before I do try to start my game. I don't want to start it and then have it sit there for weeks while no one joins. Thanks for the support though.

if you have experience from elsewhere (or as a multi ) then go for it!

You're right, I'm actually colton's second account.

[colton24]

Ok so say the mafia godfather is lynched. The mafia can't talk right? Can the mafia still kill?

[Squirrels Hat]

Ok so say the mafia godfather is lynched. The mafia can't talk right? Can the mafia still kill?

From my experience, even without the godfather, the mafia would still be able to kill and talk. Although I guess a mod could make it different, I've never played in a game where the mafia wasn't able to talk.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Mafia should still be able to talk and make kills. otherwise it would just be game over if they couldn't make kills. they just don't get the godfather benefit of either being bulletproof or investigation proof depending on how the mod wants to use the godfather.

[carlpgoodrich]

Ok, I still have absolutely no idea what a mafia game is. How does it have anything to do with playing a CC game? I must be missing something but I believe the original post doesn't mention anything about it.

[strike wolf]

Ok, I still have absolutely no idea what a mafia game is. How does it have anything to do with playing a CC game? I must be missing something but I believe the original post doesn't mention anything about it.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(party_game)