Halo: The Mafia: Day 6: End of the World as we KnowIt (9/25)

[Campin_Killer]

i'm quite sure the UNSC is not scum, unless there are factions.

Fair enough. Remember, with regards to flavor, town can be played from both sides. Sweeney Todd had Turpin et. al as town and Sweeney Todd and Lovett as mafia. It could just as easily have been the other way around.

Or, we could have a Star Wars mafia where the stormtroopers and Emperor were town and the Rebels Mafia.

I seriously have no idea as redhedge and I are third party survivors, but it's just speculation at this point.

That sounds like an intresting Star Wars mafia. O_o

I myself have never played Halo, so other than the fact that USNC and Convenant are against each other, I know nothing...

So, please excuse my lack of Halo knowledge

[redhedge47]

I raelly fell like this game is going slowly and we need to move on Unvote vote no lynch

[redhedge47]

im not trying to rush I honestly fell like we wont lynch anyone worth lynching today

[thechuck51]

4.) ALL VOTES AND UNVOTES MUST BE IN EITHER BLUE OR JUST BOLDED... anything else and it will be IGNORED!

Okay - so I am relatively new to Mafia and I jumped the bandwagon with the rush to vote redhedge, then everyone was talking about things clearly written in the rules. I know that Post Edit and Votes being in blue are completely different, but its right their, written clearly.

So I guess we all need to revote in blue just to make sure we don't lynch someone mistakenly. I'll get off my high horse now.

Also, UNVOTE VOTE PMC Something isn't sitting right with me about him. Its just a feeling. That's all.

You were quick to jump on red's bandwagon and now you are looking to jump on another based on "a feeling"?

I have "a feeling" you might be scum. vote samgrossy

[Iron Butterfly]

4.) ALL VOTES AND UNVOTES MUST BE IN EITHER BLUE OR JUST BOLDED... anything else and it will be IGNORED!

Okay - so I am relatively new to Mafia and I jumped the bandwagon with the rush to vote redhedge, then everyone was talking about things clearly written in the rules. I know that Post Edit and Votes being in blue are completely different, but its right their, written clearly.

So I guess we all need to revote in blue just to make sure we don't lynch someone mistakenly. I'll get off my high horse now.

Also, UNVOTE VOTE PMC Something isn't sitting right with me about him. Its just a feeling. That's all.

You were quick to jump on red's bandwagon and now you are looking to jump on another based on "a feeling"?

I have "a feeling" you might be scum. vote samgrossy

Chuk you do realize you are doing the same exact thing he is accused of?

[zimmah]

Not exactly, he did provide à reason, it may be weak, but it's still better than " i just think hè may be scummy".

[thechuck51]

4.) ALL VOTES AND UNVOTES MUST BE IN EITHER BLUE OR JUST BOLDED... anything else and it will be IGNORED!

Okay - so I am relatively new to Mafia and I jumped the bandwagon with the rush to vote redhedge, then everyone was talking about things clearly written in the rules. I know that Post Edit and Votes being in blue are completely different, but its right their, written clearly.

So I guess we all need to revote in blue just to make sure we don't lynch someone mistakenly. I'll get off my high horse now.

Also, UNVOTE VOTE PMC Something isn't sitting right with me about him. Its just a feeling. That's all.

You were quick to jump on red's bandwagon and now you are looking to jump on another based on "a feeling"?

I have "a feeling" you might be scum. vote samgrossy

Chuk you do realize you are doing the same exact thing he is accused of?

Its not the same. My vote is based on his reason for voting and also for his blatant bandwagoning on redhedge.

[safariguy5]

I raelly fell like this game is going slowly and we need to move on Unvote vote no lynch

My friend, voting no lynch is a classic scum move. Unless people think outing 2 third party survivor roles is enough for today, there is still information to be gained today. With 25 people, I think we can hold out for more information.

Now is not the time to move to night and give mafia free kills. We'll be right back at the same place tomorrow with no real leads.

[pancakemix]

I raelly fell like this game is going slowly and we need to move on Unvote vote no lynch

My friend, voting no lynch is a classic scum move. Unless people think outing 2 third party survivor roles is enough for today, there is still information to be gained today. With 25 people, I think we can hold out for more information.

Now is not the time to move to night and give mafia free kills. We'll be right back at the same place tomorrow with no real leads.

I am really sick of how everyone always says this is scummy. It really isn't. It's just newbish. I cannot think of a single game in which a new player who actually suggested a NL on Day 1 was scum. Most games blur together though, but the fact remains that I do not see this as a scumtell.

At least you didn't vote him.

[Iron Butterfly]

I raelly fell like this game is going slowly and we need to move on Unvote vote no lynch

My friend, voting no lynch is a classic scum move. Unless people think outing 2 third party survivor roles is enough for today, there is still information to be gained today. With 25 people, I think we can hold out for more information.

Now is not the time to move to night and give mafia free kills. We'll be right back at the same place tomorrow with no real leads.

I am really sick of how everyone always says this is scummy. It really isn't. It's just newbish. I cannot think of a single game in which a new player who actually suggested a NL on Day 1 was scum. Most games blur together though, but the fact remains that I do not see this as a scumtell.

At least you didn't vote him.

Well it is scummy but If you notice safari is trying to set the youngster straight. Since they are outed there is no reason this cant be a learning session for him.

[x-raider]

I raelly fell like this game is going slowly and we need to move on Unvote vote no lynch

My friend, voting no lynch is a classic scum move. Unless people think outing 2 third party survivor roles is enough for today, there is still information to be gained today. With 25 people, I think we can hold out for more information.

Now is not the time to move to night and give mafia free kills. We'll be right back at the same place tomorrow with no real leads.

I am really sick of how everyone always says this is scummy. It really isn't. It's just newbish. I cannot think of a single game in which a new player who actually suggested a NL on Day 1 was scum. Most games blur together though, but the fact remains that I do not see this as a scumtell.

At least you didn't vote him.

Well it is scummy but If you notice safari is trying to set the youngster straight. Since they are outed there is no reason this cant be a learning session for him.

Ok, so you are actually in agreement. TSTRS

[ShaggyDan]

Mason'd lover third party survivors? Seems convoluted but believable.

My problem is they could very well both be something completely different to what they say. A cult recruiter and member spring to mind. That and I have a firm belief in people who are third party are very hard to trust as town (their win condition being dofferent to towns leads me to not trust them at all).

For a day one lynch it may not be a bad move, with the deadline as close as it is I am inclined to keep my vote where it is.

I was readimg through and don't have thoughts on too much else (seems the usual day one run around) but this post stuck out at me for some reason.

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i agree. they both seem to be right about the other, and wrong about themselves. i would be willing to bet one of them is scum, in which case it would be worth it to get a claim out of both of them...

wait those of you who know the Halo flavor, what are the possible scum factions again?

Pushing for multiple claims without much substance. Then asking about flavour which sidetracked people for a page while a deadline comes closer (possibly unintentionally but I am willing to not believe in coincidences). FOS VODEAN.

[brandell]

unvote vote redhedge Seems to be the favored thing to do and I like going with the flow.

[jonty125]

unvote vote redhedge Seems to be the favored thing to do and I like going with the flow.

Oh dear, have you been reading? unvote, vote brandell, who hasn't been reading, and therefore is not going to know what's going on, and therefore be no help to town, therefore vote.

[brandell]

Ummmm it's my first day?

[DiM]

i don't want to seem paranoid here, but after the yomiel episode you can't be too careful.
does anybody know who brandell is?

he joined in may this year and in these last 11 weeks he never played any games and posted only 5 times (twice today).

[thechuck51]

Ummmm it's my first day?

Did you read through ALL the posts before voting? If not, you may want to make sure you do so in the future.

[thehippo8]

Ummmm it's my first day?

Did you read through ALL the posts before voting? If not, you may want to make sure you do so in the future.

Maybe we can call this "Education Mafia". Sheesh Brandell, can you please confirm you have gone bck and read everything? Otheerwise there will grow this really big target on you!

[brandell]

Unvote

I'll go back through and think it through clearly.

[vodean]

Unvote

I'll go back through and think it through clearly.

thats good. there are a lot of lessons to be learned in the last few pages. we love new members, but it is important that they learn. following the crowd is NOT a good idea. it makes us sheep. which allows the scum to lead us anywhere.

[jonty125]

Unvote

I'll go back through and think it through clearly.

thats good. there are a lot of lessons to be learned in the last few pages. we love new members, but it is important that they learn. following the crowd is NOT a good idea. it makes us sheep. which allows the scum to lead us anywhere.

Or the wolf to follow the sheep, and blend in with their sheep's clothing

[vodean]

Unvote

I'll go back through and think it through clearly.

thats good. there are a lot of lessons to be learned in the last few pages. we love new members, but it is important that they learn. following the crowd is NOT a good idea. it makes us sheep. which allows the scum to lead us anywhere.

Or the wolf to follow the sheep, and blend in with their sheep's clothing

they'll never know!

[crazymilkshake5]

Unvote

I'll go back through and think it through clearly.

thats good. there are a lot of lessons to be learned in the last few pages. we love new members, but it is important that they learn. following the crowd is NOT a good idea. it makes us sheep. which allows the scum to lead us anywhere.

all but 1 New member... *shudders*

Dont worry Brandell. its not you.

[safariguy5]

I raelly fell like this game is going slowly and we need to move on Unvote vote no lynch

My friend, voting no lynch is a classic scum move. Unless people think outing 2 third party survivor roles is enough for today, there is still information to be gained today. With 25 people, I think we can hold out for more information.

Now is not the time to move to night and give mafia free kills. We'll be right back at the same place tomorrow with no real leads.

I am really sick of how everyone always says this is scummy. It really isn't. It's just newbish. I cannot think of a single game in which a new player who actually suggested a NL on Day 1 was scum. Most games blur together though, but the fact remains that I do not see this as a scumtell.

At least you didn't vote him.

I wasn't personally there, but I think captain walrus or gregwolf's first game, they were mafia gf, and straight voted no lynch on Day 1 and got lynched for it. There is precedent.

Regardless, the logic behind it being a bad idea remain the same. Not enough information for us leads to a repeat of Day 1 on Day 2 except we'll probably lose some players to mafia nightkills.

[pancakemix]

Well it is scummy but If you notice safari is trying to set the youngster straight. Since they are outed there is no reason this cant be a learning session for him.

If you did it, it would be scummy (IIRC, I think you DID do it in your first game). Not from him, though. He didn't realize the gravity of statement. And I did note that safari didn't vote him, and I agree that he should learn that it's a bad idea. I'm just speaking my mind about the whole NL idea.

I wasn't personally there, but I think captain walrus or gregwolf's first game, they were mafia gf, and straight voted no lynch on Day 1 and got lynched for it. There is precedent.

Regardless, the logic behind it being a bad idea remain the same. Not enough information for us leads to a repeat of Day 1 on Day 2 except we'll probably lose some players to mafia nightkills.

And that's one or two to how many others? I disagree that one or two players set a precedent when there is a clear indication that most of the time it's just a townie trying to hedge their bets. I won't go so far as to say correlation equals causation, but I will say that it can't be used as a determinant factor.

I'll agree that it's generally a bad idea (Situationally, it can work. See Zelda Mafia).