Lord of the Rings mafia [Town wins]

[pmchugh]

sorry MM.

[karelpietertje]

man i was having a huge hangover when day 1 ended and slept through it :O i couldve saved Macket!

these birds.. do they mean some of the bandits knew who gandalf was?

if so, we should be trying to lynch the guys who voted on Macket right?

[pmchugh]

man i was having a huge hangover when day 1 ended and slept through it :O i couldve saved Macket!

these birds.. do they mean some of the bandits knew who gandalf was?

if so, we should be trying to lynch the guys who voted on Macket right?

You shouldn't talk about the game till day comes around.

[Simon Viavant]

If you still need a replacement I could play.

[Stroop]

man i was having a huge hangover when day 1 ended and slept through it :O i couldve saved Macket!

these birds.. do they mean some of the bandits knew who gandalf was?

if so, we should be trying to lynch the guys who voted on Macket right?

You shouldn't talk about the game till day comes around.

No-one should be talking until day comes...

If you still need a replacement I could play.

You're in.

[Stroop]

The eight remaining members of the fellowship did not take their time to grief. Aragorn used his skills as a ranger to lead the group through the darkness of Moria. When they found a tomb, they decided to rest, while trying to find out what had caused all of the Dwarves they had encountered to be skeletons. They found a book, but before anyone could open it, a loud noise tore through the silence of the dark mines. Pippin had dropped a skeleton and it’s armor into a deep pit. The group immediately heard drums in the distance and prepared for battle.

After a long battle, which included a Cave Troll, the fellowship made haste in an attempt to get out of Moria as fast as possible. They were getting close when the Goblins managed to surround them. All hope seemed lost for the eight brave souls, but for some reason the Goblins retreated. They soon found out why. A mighty demon of shadow and flame entered the hall they were standing in.



Without the mighty Gandalf to help them, the fellowship had no choice but run. They ran as fast as they could, knowing that every delay could mean the end of them all and their quest. They managed to outrun the demon and left Moria behind them.

While the fellowship was busy outrunning a Balrog, others were facing trouble as well. The magical forest Fangorn was suffering from a forest fire that burned unnaturally fast and hot. Treebeard and the other Ents did their very best to put the fire out, but it seemed impossible. In one of the many attempts to halt the disaster, Treebeard’s beard caught fire and the fire devoured the Ent. After his death the fire seemed to lose power and was stopped within the hour.



nagerous (Treebeard - Watcher) has died.

Day 2 starts now!

Day 2 will end 312 hours from now

[Mr. Squirrel]

Who would have wanted nag dead? I'm gonna have to read back through the thread when i get the chance.

[Simon Viavant]

confirming

[pmchugh]

This isn't going well

Who would have wanted nag dead? I'm gonna have to read back through the thread when i get the chance.

Probably an experienced player, because they are more likely to know nag and more likely to think him a good player that needs killing. But all of that is speculation and we shouldn't really try to second guess scum.

Anyway I think a review of yesterday is needed and I will be the first to admit that the lynch of mm wasn't the best but it was kind of all I had and if I hadn't went after him I would have probably been lynched. Still I think there are far scummier people hiding in the shadows and jumping on the wagons.

[Suspect101]

vote mr.squirrel

He has been urging on each bandwagon while remaining in the shadows. I have a bad feeling about mr.squirrel and would like to see some pressure on him.

[sam_levi_11]

Also, has anyone else noticed that sam levi still has hardly posted, even after he admitted to 'forgetting' about the game?

I havent forgotten, but i cant post at weekends often as im busy then. Even so, i find this bangwagon on clive rather baseless. As he said, it based on that he is cosistant. Pmc then said this was a scum tell, which it isnt. He seems determined to get clive lynched. fos pmc

fos on him indeed!
let's not forget that he was the one who started with immediately voting on somebody... I still can't see why a townie would do that.

vote karelpieterje

Just my assessment of things so far.. what he is doing here is a classic newbie scum strategy.

FOSing the person who is under pressure from the vote - clive in this case, but not actually going as far to put a vote on him in order to keep under the radar so to speak. He also, attempts to provide evidence against clive too in order to subtely build a case against him. I will not be voting clive as this particular bandwagon stinks of a scummy set up.

Yesterday Nag was quite hard and harsh on Karel, calling him newbie scum. This was because we was obviously avoiding the topic. A claim to which he still hasnt answered, seeming to hope this new day will mean we forget. Along with this, if he was newbie scum, being this his first/second game, certainly first as scum, he is likely to kill whoever was getting close to finding him out. It often happens with newbie scum and i think Karel simply panicked and killed him to protect himself. This, coupled with the fact he obviously avoided the topic despite neither forgetting about it or being busy and how he has been on every bandwagon in the shape of a vote or fos means im going to vote karel

[Thezzaruz]

Anyway I think a review of yesterday is needed and I will be the first to admit that the lynch of mm wasn't the best but it was kind of all I had and if I hadn't went after him I would have probably been lynched.

Forcing a bad lynch to save yourself is kind of scummy tbh. But seeing as it's still early days of D2 and a few other leads needs to be considered I'm not voting just yet.

[Mr. Squirrel]

Also, has anyone else noticed that sam levi still has hardly posted, even after he admitted to 'forgetting' about the game?

I havent forgotten, but i cant post at weekends often as im busy then. Even so, i find this bangwagon on clive rather baseless. As he said, it based on that he is cosistant. Pmc then said this was a scum tell, which it isnt. He seems determined to get clive lynched. fos pmc

fos on him indeed!
let's not forget that he was the one who started with immediately voting on somebody... I still can't see why a townie would do that.

vote karelpieterje

Just my assessment of things so far.. what he is doing here is a classic newbie scum strategy.

FOSing the person who is under pressure from the vote - clive in this case, but not actually going as far to put a vote on him in order to keep under the radar so to speak. He also, attempts to provide evidence against clive too in order to subtely build a case against him. I will not be voting clive as this particular bandwagon stinks of a scummy set up.

Yesterday Nag was quite hard and harsh on Karel, calling him newbie scum. This was because we was obviously avoiding the topic. A claim to which he still hasnt answered, seeming to hope this new day will mean we forget. Along with this, if he was newbie scum, being this his first/second game, certainly first as scum, he is likely to kill whoever was getting close to finding him out. It often happens with newbie scum and i think Karel simply panicked and killed him to protect himself. This, coupled with the fact he obviously avoided the topic despite neither forgetting about it or being busy and how he has been on every bandwagon in the shape of a vote or fos means im going to vote karel

I could definitely see this as being the scenario. Karel would have wanted nag out of the picture and any other experienced players on the mafia side would want him out just because they know he is a good player. I still haven't gone back and read over day 1, so I'm not gonna place a vote just yet, but I'll put an FOS on Karel.

[nagerous]

oh buggeroo.

No more mafia for nag I guess then.

[Mr. Squirrel]

vote mr.squirrel

He has been urging on each bandwagon while remaining in the shadows. I have a bad feeling about mr.squirrel and would like to see some pressure on him.

Can you give specific examples of how I've been "remaining in the shadows"? I agree that I have urged for the lynch in a couple cases (just as you or anyone else has), but I don't ever remember lurking.

[Simon Viavant]

Just to let you guys know I'm not trying to lurk, but it'll be a little while before I get the time to read through the 20 pages of the thread and contribute to discussion.

[spiesr]

After a quick look back at yesterday, I feel a possible situation being that pmc was scum and led the charge against MM and that Mr. Squirrel was his scum mate and came to save him by joining the MM bandwagon. I will vote Mr. Squirrel for now to further explore such possibilities...

[pmchugh]

vote mr.squirrel

He has been urging on each bandwagon while remaining in the shadows. I have a bad feeling about mr.squirrel and would like to see some pressure on him.

unvote vote suspect If there is anyone I do not think is scum in this game it is mr. squirrel. He has played 100% townie IMO and you gave incredibly weak reasons, how about quoting and giving some actual thought behind it. What happened to your big posts? This is out of character for you and I can easily see you being scum.

After a quick look back at yesterday, I feel a possible situation being that pmc was scum and led the charge against MM and that Mr. Squirrel was his scum mate and came to save him by joining the MM bandwagon. I will vote Mr. Squirrel for now to further explore such possibilities...

Looking for bandwagons much?

Anyway I think a review of yesterday is needed and I will be the first to admit that the lynch of mm wasn't the best but it was kind of all I had and if I hadn't went after him I would have probably been lynched.

Forcing a bad lynch to save yourself is kind of scummy tbh. But seeing as it's still early days of D2 and a few other leads needs to be considered I'm not voting just yet.

I knew I was town but wasn't sure about MM, what would you do in my place?

[Mr. Squirrel]

After a quick look back at yesterday, I feel a possible situation being that pmc was scum and led the charge against MM and that Mr. Squirrel was his scum mate and came to save him by joining the MM bandwagon. I will vote Mr. Squirrel for now to further explore such possibilities...

For starters, you forgot to bold your vote against me.

I can see why you may think this. I did come to PMC's defense when he was in danger of being lynched. In truth though, it wasn't PMC I was trying to defend, but MM I was trying to condemn (not knowing that MM was actually townie). MM and PMC were both acting a little scummy to me but when Thez joined MM, I thought Thez was doing the same thing you are condemning me of now. When Iliad joined after my vote, I was even more convinced. The fact that MM turned out to be Gandalf surprised me greatly and if I had been awake to see his claim, I would have backed down immediately without even waiting for a counterclaim. Gandalf was probably a power role and I think the town suffered a major loss by losing him.

[Suspect101]

vote mr.squirrel

He has been urging on each bandwagon while remaining in the shadows. I have a bad feeling about mr.squirrel and would like to see some pressure on him.

unvote vote suspect If there is anyone I do not think is scum in this game it is mr. squirrel. He has played 100% townie IMO and you gave incredibly weak reasons, how about quoting and giving some actual thought behind it. What happened to your big posts? This is out of character for you and I can easily see you being scum.

After a quick look back at yesterday, I feel a possible situation being that pmc was scum and led the charge against MM and that Mr. Squirrel was his scum mate and came to save him by joining the MM bandwagon. I will vote Mr. Squirrel for now to further explore such possibilities...

Looking for bandwagons much?

Anyway I think a review of yesterday is needed and I will be the first to admit that the lynch of mm wasn't the best but it was kind of all I had and if I hadn't went after him I would have probably been lynched.

Forcing a bad lynch to save yourself is kind of scummy tbh. But seeing as it's still early days of D2 and a few other leads needs to be considered I'm not voting just yet.

I knew I was town but wasn't sure about MM, what would you do in my place?

you have been the scummiest player in this game and your round robin vote hopping is not helping either. I wonder why a scumy person thinks another player has "played 100% town". Also, spiesr never voted mr.squrril, way to jump the gun on that one. Interesting how you like to swing the light of suspicion towards people who have accused you or your defenders. And I guess we can just throw that whole hubbub about you thinking I am town out the window. Also my "big posts" really got me far haven't they? ever consider that people may change their stratagey to try and find a more efficent means to the ends?

[pmchugh]

you have been the scummiest player in this game and your round robin vote hopping is not helping either. I wonder why a scumy person thinks another player has "played 100% town". Also, spiesr never voted mr.squrril, way to jump the gun on that one. Interesting how you like to swing the light of suspicion towards people who have accused you or your defenders. And I guess we can just throw that whole hubbub about you thinking I am town out the window. Also my "big posts" really got me far haven't they? ever consider that people may change their stratagey to try and find a more efficent means to the ends?

I disagree big posts and round robin vote hopping is IMO the most efficient technique for finding scum. It's a lot easier not to slip up if you sit in the background, but even as scum it's less intresting. Why are you protecting speisr? And I didn't say he did bandwagon I said he was looking for a bandwagon, he picked out a newbie who was just accused and me who is probably the easiest player to BW atm.

And I guess we can just throw that whole hubbub about you thinking I am town out the window

I changed my mind entirely, my whole instict says you are scum.

I notice you are not voting me yet, but I garuntee you will for the very reason you just accused me:

you like to swing the light of suspicion towards people who have accused you or your defenders

You didn't seem to think I was scummy before I accused you, or at least you seemed to think Mr. Squirrel was more suspicious. So go on BS me and tell me your fake reason for vote changing.

[Suspect101]

you have been the scummiest player in this game and your round robin vote hopping is not helping either. I wonder why a scumy person thinks another player has "played 100% town". Also, spiesr never voted mr.squrril, way to jump the gun on that one. Interesting how you like to swing the light of suspicion towards people who have accused you or your defenders. And I guess we can just throw that whole hubbub about you thinking I am town out the window. Also my "big posts" really got me far haven't they? ever consider that people may change their stratagey to try and find a more efficent means to the ends?

I disagree big posts and round robin vote hopping is IMO the most efficient technique for finding scum. It's a lot easier not to slip up if you sit in the background, but even as scum it's less intresting. Why are you protecting speisr? And I didn't say he did bandwagon I said he was looking for a bandwagon, he picked out a newbie who was just accused and me who is probably the easiest player to BW atm.

And I guess we can just throw that whole hubbub about you thinking I am town out the window

I changed my mind entirely, my whole instict says you are scum.

I notice you are not voting me yet, but I garuntee you will for the very reason you just accused me:

you like to swing the light of suspicion towards people who have accused you or your defenders

You didn't seem to think I was scummy before I accused you, or at least you seemed to think Mr. Squirrel was more suspicious. So go on BS me and tell me your fake reason for vote changing.[/quote]

You are the first person to jump on people and call them scum for vote hopping, but when you do it there is a reason? You are changing your norms, so you must be scum (by your deduction of me doing the same thing).

I am posting less content not less in general, your theory is deadwood and should be burned as such.

No, I am not going to vote for you because I want to hear more about Mr.Squrril. So go BS yourself. Should be fun and will probably amuse you for hours.

Oh, by the way, your instincts stink.

[Suspect101]

EBWOP

you have been the scummiest player in this game and your round robin vote hopping is not helping either. I wonder why a scumy person thinks another player has "played 100% town". Also, spiesr never voted mr.squrril, way to jump the gun on that one. Interesting how you like to swing the light of suspicion towards people who have accused you or your defenders. And I guess we can just throw that whole hubbub about you thinking I am town out the window. Also my "big posts" really got me far haven't they? ever consider that people may change their stratagey to try and find a more efficent means to the ends?

I disagree big posts and round robin vote hopping is IMO the most efficient technique for finding scum. It's a lot easier not to slip up if you sit in the background, but even as scum it's less intresting. Why are you protecting speisr? And I didn't say he did bandwagon I said he was looking for a bandwagon, he picked out a newbie who was just accused and me who is probably the easiest player to BW atm.

And I guess we can just throw that whole hubbub about you thinking I am town out the window

I changed my mind entirely, my whole instict says you are scum.

I notice you are not voting me yet, but I garuntee you will for the very reason you just accused me:

you like to swing the light of suspicion towards people who have accused you or your defenders

You didn't seem to think I was scummy before I accused you, or at least you seemed to think Mr. Squirrel was more suspicious. So go on BS me and tell me your fake reason for vote changing.

You are the first person to jump on people and call them scum for vote hopping, but when you do it there is a reason? You are changing your norms, so you must be scum (by your deduction of me doing the same thing).

I am posting less content not less in general, your theory is deadwood and should be burned as such.

No, I am not going to vote for you because I want to hear more about Mr.Squrril. So go BS yourself. Should be fun and will probably amuse you for hours.

Oh, by the way, your instincts stink.

[spiesr]

[quote="Suspect101]Also, spiesr never voted mr.squrril,[/quote]Actually, i meant to vote for him and I will fix it now. Vote Mr. Squirrel


Suspect does bring an interesting point that we may want to look into somewhat of pmc retaliating against those who attack him or his defenders. Whether this is reasonable self defense or something a little more is unclear and open for discussion...

[pmchugh]

You are the first person to jump on people and call them scum for vote hopping, but when you do it there is a reason? You are changing your norms, so you must be scum (by your deduction of me doing the same thing).

I am posting less content not less in general, your theory is deadwood and should be burned as such.

No, I am not going to vote for you because I want to hear more about Mr.Squrril. So go BS yourself. Should be fun and will probably amuse you for hours.

Oh, by the way, your instincts stink.

Where did I accuse anyone of vote hopping?

Hmm intresting reaction, but we shall see about my insticts.