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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:45 am

I thought I should update this while I was on. there has been a lot of voting going on as of late.

Vote Count!

Mr. S (1) - GEQ
Stroop (1) - CW
CW (3) - Falko, stroke, e_i_pi

Ok everyone agree?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby God Emperor Q on Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:19 am

I'm going to act on my suspicion from earlier.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:43 am

God Emperor Q wrote:I'm going to act on my suspicion from earlier.
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Can you repost what your suspicions were? I don't remember them and looking back I can't seem to find them.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby MeDeFe on Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:48 am

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:And I have no idea what role it is claimed that Stroop has claimed, what role that starts with a "c"? Or is it about c-games? *confused*

Read through these. Its not a common role, but you'll know it when you see it.

Stroop, is that your only power or do you have more? A simple yes or no will suffice. But I have reason to believe that your role is a bit more complicated than you say.

I think I spotted it.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cowboyz on Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:14 pm

Alive players:
1. captainwalrus
2. fuzzy PPPPPPPPPPenguin
3. falkomagno
4. Mr squirrel
5. cowboyz
6. naxus
7. stroop
8. skittles.
9. cena
10. masterchief123
11. suspect101
12. SEAsportsfan
13. MeDeFe
14. e_i_pi
15. strokem

I know that a few players have been replaced, since God Emp Q and others have joined...how bout PMC edit the first post so we have an accurate list of who replaced who in the game?

falkomagno wrote:
pmchugh wrote:ACTUALLY THE OFFICIAL AND PROPER Vote Count!

falko 7 - ((1)suspect, (2)skittles, (3)fircoal, (4)stroop, (5)cowboyz,(6) medefe. (7)squirrel, (8) cena)


With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.


The above is correct to the best of my knowledge.


I put numbers in each vote to clary things. Btw….

pmchugh wrote:You guys are tools, i wouldn't leave with a wrong vote count.

No lynch, Night 1 actions plz.


So, that’s what happened before:

1. I start with silly arguments to see reactions
2. 2. Everybody turns on me, with angry eyes
3. I had to claim. I claim to need one more vote to be lynched
4. I received 8 votes, when we need 8 votes to lynch
5. I wasn’t lynched. That's because I was telling the truth
But some people thought that was because the mod can’t count…jeez…maybe you are actually tools. I’m going to think that you are tool, by now.


e_i_pi wrote:Falko is vig, I'm sure of this now. I role-blocked him in a way that led to the result explained by the mod. It makes perfect sense to me.


Ok I went throught the whole falko thing in my head and i seems that he did get 8 votes and wasn't killed. That proves he wasn't lying about needing the extra vote, and his statement about starting up discussion with his crazy talk in the start makes sense as well. Falko isn't cleared yet, but he was telling the truth about the +1 to lynch thing.

e_i_pi roleblocking falko would also make sense because we weren't sure about his 2 Nk's he claimed to have.

captainwalrus wrote:Possibly, I think I will claim.
I am a bulletproof body gaurd. And unfourtunently, I decided to protect nexus. THis means you both could be lying or telling the truth but It isn't that helpfull. Because I can't dye and I can protet someone, that sort of balances thngs a bit with the two vig's.


CW's explanation for protecting naxus doesn't make much sense to me.

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Falkomagno wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:I never seem to have good reasons for who I protect. I picked naxus just cause. He is new and deserved to be protevted, since it wouldn't be fun to be killed night one in your first game.



There is no chance that you would know that naxus were targeted last night. Not in earth. Look...more scum points to you .............


-why are this scum still alive???-


I don't know, I just decided to protect him, so I did. I didn't know he would be targeted but I didn't know I would be either. I didn't know who would be targeted and I'm not claiming to.



Falkomagno wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:Really, claims so far:

Falko targets naxus
eipi blocks Falko
strokem targets CW
CW protects naxus


This is a good call. Look, my lack of effectiveness can be wide explain by de eipi action. The claim of CW is totally unnecessary, and In fact, unbelievable...why CW would want to protect a player who wasn't active??? that would be a very very lucky choice. In the absence of eipi claim, that could explain why naxus is alive, but with the information that we have by now it's so much...bullshitish

I think that I can get along with that.

unvote vote CW...damn...I knew it


MeDeFe wrote:The scum didn't kill anyone and that might be due to me but even I can't know for sure whether it actually is.


That can be easily explained in a cult game. And you know, if a Vampire bites you, you become in an evil force too....-why nobody take that statement seriously??-


Im thinking we should lynch CW
1. We have a mislynch to use for sure
2. This will prove something about falko/e_i_pi (if CW turns out to be scum, i will be more inclined to trust them)

So for now FOS CW


Elsewhere the hunt was on. These vampires had terrorised enough people and it was time for them to pay. The tall figure walked among the shadows and seen its target. He was sure it was a vampire, he shouted and the target turned too face him. He shot his stake gun straight towards the heart of his victim but it never sunk in properly and the figure turned and fleed.

This maybe a bit noob thinking but...
Maybe a vamp that takes 2 shots to die? Stroke claims vig and he claims to have targetted CW, maybe he hit CW once and CW would need an extra kill to die?
Is that possible at all or no?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cena-rules on Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:22 pm

I just noticed, in the vote count it said we only had 7 votes on him, obviously because someone is voteless. Im not suspicious of him, but I just spotted it
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cowboyz on Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:40 pm

cena-rules wrote:I just noticed, in the vote count it said we only had 7 votes on him, obviously because someone is voteless. Im not suspicious of him, but I just spotted it


pmchugh wrote:ACTUALLY THE OFFICIAL AND PROPER Vote Count!

falko 7 - (suspect, skittles, fircoal, stroop, cowboyz, medefe. squirrel, cena)


With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.


The above is correct to the best of my knowledge.


Ok right, So falko isn't proven about his L+1 ability at all. So FOS Falko and CW
I say we lynch one or the other and see what happens. CW would be my choice. If he turns out to be townie, then it looks bad for falko.

BTW, is that common for someone to not have a vote in a maf game? Noob ?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:03 pm

cena-rules wrote:I just noticed, in the vote count it said we only had 7 votes on him, obviously because someone is voteless. Im not suspicious of him, but I just spotted it

I thought that was just Pmc's way of saying that we hadn't lynched him yet. Unfortunately, Pmc isn't here to clarify.

cowboyz wrote:I say we lynch one or the other and see what happens. CW would be my choice. If he turns out to be townie, then it looks bad for falko.

Well, we know CW has to be bulletproof since stroke targeted him, but is he really scum? In regards to his poor reasoning for protecting naxus, I can understand him. We had a very boring day 1 with very little to go on. He didn't know who the mafia would target since there was no real claims besides stroke's and Falko's vig claims. IF I were him, I probably would have just chosen randomly who to protect or protected no one at all. Think about it. If you had been him, who would you choose to protect?

I'm just trying to point out some of the holes in your argument against him. I know that as soon as I post this, someone is gonna say "The squirrel and the Walrus are scum buddies!!!! Lynch Em!!!!" but honestly I don't see a strong enough argument to deserve a lynch. I definitely think you should continue to investigate CW, but I disapprove of your "Lynch one of them now!" attitude. Especially when there is no deadline set yet.
cowboyz wrote:BTW, is that common for someone to not have a vote in a maf game? Noob ?

I wouldn't say common, but it is definitely not unheard of.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cowboyz on Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:40 pm

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
cena-rules wrote:I just noticed, in the vote count it said we only had 7 votes on him, obviously because someone is voteless. Im not suspicious of him, but I just spotted it

I thought that was just Pmc's way of saying that we hadn't lynched him yet. Unfortunately, Pmc isn't here to clarify.


Everyone keeps saying PMC isnt retarded so unless he comes in and says something other, Im guessing he meant what he typed.

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cowboyz wrote:I say we lynch one or the other and see what happens. CW would be my choice. If he turns out to be townie, then it looks bad for falko.

Well, we know CW has to be bulletproof since stroke targeted him, but is he really scum? In regards to his poor reasoning for protecting naxus, I can understand him. We had a very boring day 1 with very little to go on. He didn't know who the mafia would target since there was no real claims besides stroke's and Falko's vig claims. IF I were him, I probably would have just chosen randomly who to protect or protected no one at all. Think about it. If you had been him, who would you choose to protect?

I'm just trying to point out some of the holes in your argument against him. I know that as soon as I post this, someone is gonna say "The squirrel and the Walrus are scum buddies!!!! Lynch Em!!!!" but honestly I don't see a strong enough argument to deserve a lynch. I definitely think you should continue to investigate CW, but I disapprove of your "Lynch one of them now!" attitude. Especially when there is no deadline set yet.


I never went nuts and started to demand we "Lynch one of them now!" at all. I just offered up an idea. Hell, I didnt even vote yet, I just threw out a FOS on each of them.
If we do vote for one, it will at least offer up some info which we could clearly use atm.

Any thoughts of yours as on who to lynch?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Stroop on Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:45 pm

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:And I have no idea what role it is claimed that Stroop has claimed, what role that starts with a "c"? Or is it about c-games? *confused*

Read through these. Its not a common role, but you'll know it when you see it.

Stroop, is that your only power or do you have more? A simple yes or no will suffice. But I have reason to believe that your role is a bit more complicated than you say.

Eh? I was guessing at MeDeFe's role. Nothing I said was in any way related to my own role.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby MeDeFe on Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:22 pm

Stroop wrote:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:And I have no idea what role it is claimed that Stroop has claimed, what role that starts with a "c"? Or is it about c-games? *confused*

Read through these. Its not a common role, but you'll know it when you see it.

Stroop, is that your only power or do you have more? A simple yes or no will suffice. But I have reason to believe that your role is a bit more complicated than you say.

Eh? I was guessing at MeDeFe's role. Nothing I said was in any way related to my own role.

Then I must have misread a post or two somewhere.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:55 pm

MeDeFe wrote:
Stroop wrote:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:And I have no idea what role it is claimed that Stroop has claimed, what role that starts with a "c"? Or is it about c-games? *confused*

Read through these. Its not a common role, but you'll know it when you see it.

Stroop, is that your only power or do you have more? A simple yes or no will suffice. But I have reason to believe that your role is a bit more complicated than you say.

Eh? I was guessing at MeDeFe's role. Nothing I said was in any way related to my own role.

Then I must have misread a post or two somewhere.

Whoops. I misread an old post as well. Looking back, I read one of your day 1 posts wrong (which led me to believe one thing) and then I got confused and thought you claimed to hold the 'c' role. MeDeFe, we are talking about your role starting with a 'c'. We still have no idea who stroop is. Yours does start with a 'c' right?

I gotta start writing stuff down again. I'm getting all screwed up... :roll:
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cena-rules on Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:01 pm

The role is called voteless townie.

I personally thing we should attempt to lynch falko again to test this out. If he has the +1 then we can see that he is town and if he isnt then we get rid of a lying little toerag

vote falko

also when you vote him quote the vote before you and add a number. I am vote number one. If anyone has been told their vote doesnt count can you let us know or just stay off the bandwagon please
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby captainwalrus on Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:20 pm

e_i_pi wrote:Captainwalrus, you omitted my rolleyes emoticon when quoting me - strange for a townie to do that, as Stroop has pointed out. Now, by itself, that's not much, especially if it was early in the game, but it's not, it's getting to the point where lynching and killing is going to happen without a first round stall. I find that suspicious.

Sorry for miss quoting, I didn't realize the eyeroll was important. I honestly couldn't tell if you were joking, so I asked if you had claimed vampire, just to double check.


I also find suspicious that you aren't claiming innocence, that you are instead saying words to the effect "don't look at me, it's that guy over there that's the vampire". That's a terribly obvious way to slink about.

No one had really accused me of much at the point that I was accuseing.


Also, the fact that you claim to have protected naxus because, and I quote, "He is new and deserved to be protevted, since it wouldn't be fun to be killed night one in your first game", well that smells fishy to me. Perhaps you do have a protection skill, but your explanation for protecting naxus, someone who has hardly posted at all, doesn't wash with me.
It was a random guess. I had no reason to protectany one else, so I protected a newb. What is wrong with that?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Falkomagno on Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:59 pm

cowboyz wrote:
cena-rules wrote:I just noticed, in the vote count it said we only had 7 votes on him, obviously because someone is voteless. Im not suspicious of him, but I just spotted it


pmchugh wrote:ACTUALLY THE OFFICIAL AND PROPER Vote Count!

falko 7 - (suspect, skittles, fircoal, stroop, cowboyz, medefe. squirrel, cena)


With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.


The above is correct to the best of my knowledge.


Ok right, So falko isn't proven about his L+1 ability at all. So FOS Falko and CW
I say we lynch one or the other and see what happens. CW would be my choice. If he turns out to be townie, then it looks bad for falko.

BTW, is that common for someone to not have a vote in a maf game? Noob ?


shut the hell up¡¡...what's wrong with you??? you don't think so "Oh my freaking god" coincidential that I claimed to need +1 vote to be lynched, and then miraculously appears a voteless townie voting by me???? Distraction. That's all you have.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cena-rules on Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:01 pm

Falkomagno wrote:
cowboyz wrote:
cena-rules wrote:I just noticed, in the vote count it said we only had 7 votes on him, obviously because someone is voteless. Im not suspicious of him, but I just spotted it


pmchugh wrote:ACTUALLY THE OFFICIAL AND PROPER Vote Count!

falko 7 - (suspect, skittles, fircoal, stroop, cowboyz, medefe. squirrel, cena)


With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.


The above is correct to the best of my knowledge.


Ok right, So falko isn't proven about his L+1 ability at all. So FOS Falko and CW
I say we lynch one or the other and see what happens. CW would be my choice. If he turns out to be townie, then it looks bad for falko.

BTW, is that common for someone to not have a vote in a maf game? Noob ?


shut the hell up¡¡...what's wrong with you??? you don't think so "Oh my freaking god" coincidential that I claimed to need +1 vote to be lynched, and then miraculously appears a voteless townie voting by me???? Distraction. That's all you have.



OK lets see

1) you claim to need +1
2) we have a voteless townie
3) they voted for you therefore #1 is not proven

simple as........oh wait it is 1,2,3
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Crazyirishman on Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:29 pm

I was just wondering if we have had any other claims other than vig and roleblocker?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby God Emperor Q on Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:30 pm

God Emperor Q wrote:FOS Stroop. I think Stroop is trying to get MeDeFe to admit his powers, and see whether he is worth killing or not.

PS- Mafia is confusing :x ... I've done quite a bit of pondering on this game :ugeek:
PPS- I still could be totally wrong :D O:)

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God Emperor Q wrote:I'm going to act on my suspicion from earlier.
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Can you repost what your suspicions were? I don't remember them and looking back I can't seem to find them.

There ya go ;)
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:47 pm

Falkomagno wrote:
cowboyz wrote:
cena-rules wrote:I just noticed, in the vote count it said we only had 7 votes on him, obviously because someone is voteless. Im not suspicious of him, but I just spotted it


pmchugh wrote:ACTUALLY THE OFFICIAL AND PROPER Vote Count!

falko 7 - (suspect, skittles, fircoal, stroop, cowboyz, medefe. squirrel, cena)


With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.


The above is correct to the best of my knowledge.


Ok right, So falko isn't proven about his L+1 ability at all. So FOS Falko and CW
I say we lynch one or the other and see what happens. CW would be my choice. If he turns out to be townie, then it looks bad for falko.

BTW, is that common for someone to not have a vote in a maf game? Noob ?


shut the hell up¡¡...what's wrong with you??? you don't think so "Oh my freaking god" coincidential that I claimed to need +1 vote to be lynched, and then miraculously appears a voteless townie voting by me???? Distraction. That's all you have.

Whoa. Freak out much.
I'm not liking this response at all. I wasn't overly suspicious before, and I didn't see the need to try the 8 votes again, but after this outburst I'm not so sure. vote falko
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:49 pm

Crazyirishman wrote:I was just wondering if we have had any other claims other than vig and roleblocker?

CW claims to be a bulletproof bodyguard.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Crazyirishman on Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:36 pm

Thanks
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby MeDeFe on Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:03 am

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
Falkomagno wrote:
cowboyz wrote:
cena-rules wrote:I just noticed, in the vote count it said we only had 7 votes on him, obviously because someone is voteless. Im not suspicious of him, but I just spotted it


pmchugh wrote:ACTUALLY THE OFFICIAL AND PROPER Vote Count!

falko 7 - (suspect, skittles, fircoal, stroop, cowboyz, medefe. squirrel, cena)


With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.


The above is correct to the best of my knowledge.


Ok right, So falko isn't proven about his L+1 ability at all. So FOS Falko and CW
I say we lynch one or the other and see what happens. CW would be my choice. If he turns out to be townie, then it looks bad for falko.

BTW, is that common for someone to not have a vote in a maf game? Noob ?


shut the hell up¡¡...what's wrong with you??? you don't think so "Oh my freaking god" coincidential that I claimed to need +1 vote to be lynched, and then miraculously appears a voteless townie voting by me???? Distraction. That's all you have.

Whoa. Freak out much.
I'm not liking this response at all. I wasn't overly suspicious before, and I didn't see the need to try the 8 votes again, but after this outburst I'm not so sure. vote falko

It depends on pmc I think, does he let Falko start at -1 votes to make things consistent and have him lynched when 9 people have voted for him (8 counted votes from 9 people), or does he need half the votes +1 before being lynched (9 counted votes from 9 people). The result is the same, but it would look quite different to us.

Also consider the probability of Falko claiming to need an additional vote to be lynched and there being a voteless townie who would appear to corroborate his claim. If you really want to find out whether someone is voteless or not, I say everyone votes for the next person on the list and the last votes for the first, if someone has no votes against them we'll know who the voteless townie is.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Falkomagno on Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:54 pm

it just seems like we are in the same freaking d1. There is nothing more worth to pursue that check once again that I need a vote more to be lynchethat the rest ot the town? Jeeezzz
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cena-rules on Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:57 pm

Falkomagno wrote:it just seems like we are in the same freaking d1. There is nothing more worth to pursue that check once again that I need a vote more to be lynchethat the rest ot the town? Jeeezzz


we have no leads
you havent been cleared yet
therefore you are as good a candidate as anyone plus we have a way of checking to see if your claim is real
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby e_i_pi on Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:32 am

I'm not voting for Falko. I didn't vote for him the first time because it would push him into lynch, and I'm not voting this time. I won't say that Falko is 100% guaranteed townie, but if you can't find other people that are more suspicious cena, and you think revisiting an attempted lynch on someone who claims to be a vig, then I'm afraid I'll have to:

FoS cena-rules
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