Crazys Superhero Mafia! Game Over! Villains Win!

[new guy1]

Dang, good game guys, go town!

[Some7hingCLEVER]

even if color has nothing to do with it it is obvious two people targeted NG1 last night
1.) the guy who shot him
2.) the guy who snapped his neck

so i guess we got lucky they targeted the same people that way we didnt lose two of us tonight and only one

fastposted
gg to you to bro lol

[Leehar]

Yeah, thats why I was so irritated with ng1 at posting that he has something to say during the night scene. It's like going out and putting a big fat target over your head >_>

I thought the same thing with this and last nights scene jg, but guess not.

Hippo, the balls in your court

[jgordon1111]

what I noticed prior to the last two scenes is that crazy didnt note that nothing was given away in the scene, as he did in prior scenes.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

what I noticed prior to the last two scenes is that crazy didnt note that nothing was given away in the scene, as he did in prior scenes.

ya. but he only said that the color didnt mean anything and i have already pointed out that the words do mean something. if you read it you will see that he said quite obviously that one person shot him and the other person twisted his neck.

so im gonna post my thoughts

hippo-him and sg7 were the two to visit betiko and betiko died and it seems sg7 role didnt have anything to do with killing as far as anyone can tell. so that leaves hippo and NG1 turned up to be town so we can trust him saying they were the only ones to visit him so right now hippo seems the scummiest to me.

/-he claimed tracker but whether he got counter claimed or counter claimed him means nothing to me. the fact that he wanted sg7 dead and not hippo tips the scumdar off for me. as i have already pointed out,
1.) if he is the real tracker then he would want hippo dead because there would be no reason to for someone to fake claim if they didnt have something to hide and he would have voted hippo not sg7.
2.) if he is not the tracker then he wouldnt want hippo dead so he would vote sg7 (which is exactly what he did) cause when hippo died then hippo would show up to be the real tracker. and when that happens / will be on the hot seat and most likely get lynched.

honestly i feel they could be scum buddies but the fact that / went of the plan makes me think maybe only one is. but right now i have to go with hippo because he is the only one left that actually visited a dead man.

[thehippo8]

Morning all!

Last night I tracked / and he visited clever.

[thehippo8]

what I noticed prior to the last two scenes is that crazy didnt note that nothing was given away in the scene, as he did in prior scenes.

ya. but he only said that the color didnt mean anything and i have already pointed out that the words do mean something. if you read it you will see that he said quite obviously that one person shot him and the other person twisted his neck.

so im gonna post my thoughts

hippo-him and sg7 were the two to visit betiko and betiko died and it seems sg7 role didnt have anything to do with killing as far as anyone can tell. so that leaves hippo and NG1 turned up to be town so we can trust him saying they were the only ones to visit him so right now hippo seems the scummiest to me.

/-he claimed tracker but whether he got counter claimed or counter claimed him means nothing to me. the fact that he wanted sg7 dead and not hippo tips the scumdar off for me. as i have already pointed out,
1.) if he is the real tracker then he would want hippo dead because there would be no reason to for someone to fake claim if they didnt have something to hide and he would have voted hippo not sg7.
2.) if he is not the tracker then he wouldnt want hippo dead so he would vote sg7 (which is exactly what he did) cause when hippo died then hippo would show up to be the real tracker. and when that happens / will be on the hot seat and most likely get lynched.

honestly i feel they could be scum buddies but the fact that / went of the plan makes me think maybe only one is. but right now i have to go with hippo because he is the only one left that actually visited a dead man.

Just to be clear clever, trackers do not visit people - they follow them to see where they go. There is no contact at all.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

what I noticed prior to the last two scenes is that crazy didnt note that nothing was given away in the scene, as he did in prior scenes.

ya. but he only said that the color didnt mean anything and i have already pointed out that the words do mean something. if you read it you will see that he said quite obviously that one person shot him and the other person twisted his neck.

so im gonna post my thoughts

hippo-him and sg7 were the two to visit betiko and betiko died and it seems sg7 role didnt have anything to do with killing as far as anyone can tell. so that leaves hippo and NG1 turned up to be town so we can trust him saying they were the only ones to visit him so right now hippo seems the scummiest to me.

/-he claimed tracker but whether he got counter claimed or counter claimed him means nothing to me. the fact that he wanted sg7 dead and not hippo tips the scumdar off for me. as i have already pointed out,
1.) if he is the real tracker then he would want hippo dead because there would be no reason to for someone to fake claim if they didnt have something to hide and he would have voted hippo not sg7.
2.) if he is not the tracker then he wouldnt want hippo dead so he would vote sg7 (which is exactly what he did) cause when hippo died then hippo would show up to be the real tracker. and when that happens / will be on the hot seat and most likely get lynched.

honestly i feel they could be scum buddies but the fact that / went of the plan makes me think maybe only one is. but right now i have to go with hippo because he is the only one left that actually visited a dead man.

Just to be clear clever, trackers do not visit people - they follow them to see where they go. There is no contact at all.

i understand what a tracker does. i was one in power roles and caught the last two mafia in consecutive days. if anything in my cases points to the tracker doing something else please say so and ill fix it.

[thehippo8]

@clever - you said ...

hippo-him and sg7 were the two to visit betiko and betiko died and it seems sg7 role didnt have anything to do with killing as far as anyone can tell. so that leaves hippo and NG1 turned up to be town so we can trust him saying they were the only ones to visit him so right now hippo seems the scummiest to me.

Maybe it's just semantics, but I didn't visit him - as I am a tracker that's impossible for me.

[jgordon1111]

ok / did you track clever and what did he do? If not hippo you are on the block.

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That is correct, I tracked clever, clever targeted no one for an action, Can you confirm this clever?
This is odd, hippo is confirmed as tracker, when logically he should be betiko's killer, either he is a mafia tracker, or there is a mafia ninja in our midst, (In which case, Bah at safariguy for balancing this) making both of our roles borderline useless.

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Here's where I begin to doubt the most logical outcome. I wonder why the second killer went for newguy rather than hippo? it is garanteed that the two killers are not in coordination, or there would be two dead rather than one. Hippo has always seemed somewhat truthful, in that he never claimed to be town.
And if he were mafia, why would mafia confirm he was the killer by eliminating newguy?

But there is one thing I believe hippo lied about, and that is knowing that skill is town, skill is your mason partner, is he not?
Which would make him third party, yes?
I believe skill may be the second killer, in being hippo's mason partner, would logically know that hippo wasn't betiko's killer, instead killing the only logical alternative, newguy.

Why do I assume the second is not a serial killer?
Because of night one, it is logical that the mafia would lose their kill upon day killing, but illogical that a serial killer would suffer for it, more likely the second skipped that night, something a serial killer would not do.

Now I am not even sure I believe what I just said, but it was something I was mulling over.

I think we should probably have a mass-claim, does anyone object?

[jak111]

Grr, I wish to say something sooo badly in this v.v. Also, note to Crazy, it should say Day 4 not 3. *Wishes this ghost could say something else -.-*

[jgordon1111]

I am with / on most of his logic, I believe skill is masoned to hippo. And considering SG7 flipped nothing? hippo is the logical killer of betiko.

The way that NG1 died says / may be right about the ninja because this was another new kill outside the bullets.


I am Frank Castle, The Punisher, town body guard. Whoever I choose to bodyguard cannot be killed by bullets. N1 I guarded NG1 when ghost got hit. N2 I guarded NG1 after crown flipped town. N3 I guarded / because I believed hippo killed betiko when SG7 the wanderer didnt seem a gun user and a plan was put in place for hippo to track / again. It seems I chose wrong.

[thehippo8]

Lol, you make me laugh jg. When have you ever heard that a tracker has killing powers?? Silly jg. And before any of you begin with WIFOm, I do not have any killing powers.

As to the other stuff you and / are talking about - let's hear what skill has to say for himself, hmm?

[jgordon1111]

I havent heard of a tracker having killing powers that is what is throwing me off here. But you knowing who / tracked says you are a tracker at least. So 2 trackers in the game.

[skillfusniper33]

So lets clear some things up first on how Betiko died. First I am not a SK, I am a Paranoid Gun owner, but it isn't standard that if someone visits me, they instantly die, they have a 50% chance of getting shot, which fits my character which is Harvey Dent (2-Face). Yes I am 3rd party, and yes I am masoned with Hippo. I do confirm that he is Night Crawler.

So technically I could have been part of killing NG1 as well, but I am not sure if a watcher counts as someone being visited. And by my understanding of the role I believe it does after a little bit of thinking about it.

To be straight up I have a feeling that their are only 2 mafia in this game and I believe they are JG, and Leehar. Leehar because he has been flying under the radar for most of the game (no I don't have any hard evidence right now on Leehar, but need to go back through the thread). And JG because of the last scene to be specific of the snapping of the neck. The Punisher is a brutal character, yes he was on the good side of things, but he dealt with bad people with a lot of cruelty. This does fit the scene, and since the scene was missing the statement of their is no information to gather from the scene I think it fits. Body guard to me also seems like a fairly easy role to fake claim, since they are pretty rare, but also with the flavor of this game I wouldn't think their would be a body guard in a game that is based on Superheros (although I could see it fitting with such odd roles out there).

I will post more a little later, since I have been summoned by a friend.

[crazymilkshake5]

uh... yeah... i forgot to put the "no information in the scene"... but uh.... guess its to late now. Literally had to do that scene as i was walking out the door.... Sorry fellas... please continue and dont let this interfere with the game, Once again, sorry

[jgordon1111]

I dont have night kills I have a protection role, which is kinda why I believe safari said the game would be balanced.

No where near NG1 last night lol.

Was gaurding / , because I didnt completely trust hippo's claim at the time.

And If I read harvey dent correctly, uh wasnt he a bad guy in batmans world? tried to kills gordons family and always flipped a 2 headed coin so its not 50/50 skill its a sure thing kill.

your flavor doesnt read as town.

And the way I read it beings I can only stop bullets,my role is to offset yours.

just read harvey dent again I was wrong about the coin apparently in the comic books. Its 50/50.

[Leehar]

I've been completely thrown off the rails because / confirmed hippo's tracking, which has thrown me for a loop.
However, mafias are want to have roles as well, so I suppose it is feasible that he's still scum, but the confidence with which they've claimed what they've done seems hard to fact. It could just be that everybody's in cahoots with everyone else, but that'd probably be a bit convoluted.

For now I'm suspicious of Skill's claim, because making yourself PGO/third-party seems to be an oft-used scum tactic in trying to skim the line of making yourself seems useful to town while still not lying in having a killing role.
However, I'm struggling to know if thats just me omgus'ing, or just continuing a vendetta against hippo etc or actually something I strongly feel.
The hippo thing because if they're masoned that means they're together, and likely both good, or both bad. We've already had 1 mason pair in ng and Crown, so I also doubt theirs another such pair town-aligned. And ng1/crown also had similar roles, in twins, and I can't see anything like that here with 2-face and nightcrawler from differing shows let alone not being related?

Also, it seems the last 2 guys Claimed with no prompting? Specially suspicious of jg because he was so against doing so for no reason the last few days?
But I think that means I'm the only one unclaimed now? Is this a mass-claim then and I should follow the leaders?

[Leehar]

However, the pgo thing could explain the 2-kills in night 2?
Who did you say betiko visited Night 2 Hippo? I think it was clever or skill? If skill, then it could explain the death and possibly clear hippo? Tho I'm astonished you didn't feel the need to claim yesterday skill, but instead jump out of thin air to do so today?

Also, is their anything you can contribute with regards your win condition skill? And why town would be better suited to having a 3rd party, vs not?

Also, these tracker peops, do you know if you see your target visit someone else, if that could also pop up for mafia or mason meetings?

[jgordon1111]

I claimed because I think something is off with skills and hippos claim. ok they say they are masoned but skill if he was town,why would town targeting him cause them to die.

And as you said Nightcrawler is a good guy, two face isnt, why on earth would they be masoned?

Night crawler became one of the X-men(good guys)

2 face flipped bad after his woman died(bad guys) masoned hmmm Rather odd that.

And apparently skill is the killer between them.

Hippo (mafia tracker would explain alot)

So I figured best to go with / idea and all of us in the open now is better for town.

/ seems to be the most reasonable thinker now.

[Leehar]

Idk, no offence to / but as I said earlier, I'm seeing connections between everyone.
I agree with skill that there' likely 2 mafia left if we haven't been endgamed already, so I was just wondering if perhaps / visiting Clever was a sign of them being mafia in cahoots and in discussions during the night. Plus he's the only lead we have for Jak's kill which seems to be the likely mafia target that night.

Btw, skill apparently didn't actually kill anyone. Because he's a PGO, betiko died by targetting skill.
But I'm really astonished you guys didn't come forward yesterday and save sg7 if that was the case. If betiko's death could be explained away, then it's astonishing that you guys didn't do so and let sg take the fall.

[skillfusniper33]

I had thought about claiming yesterday, but with everyone being extremely concerned about the double tracker I didn't really see the point. And since we had several things kinda come to a stop, and with the death last night, it seems to have had 2 people visit NG (which really was him visiting me, and someone going to him). I had also left a hint yesterday not to come visit me, but apparently NG didn't listen.

Another reason for claiming was to help my mason partner out a little, and confirming that he wasn't lying about that, as well as confirming his Character claim. Yes hippo said that Betiko had visited me during night 2. Also my win condition is to survive (but it does sound like it could have changed with the phrasing... Maybe I was who SG7 needed to find... But then again that would have meant he had a 50% chance to get his role changed).

I am not sure how you see it that I am jumping out of thin air with my claim Leehar. Also the reason for keeping me around is that if I die, mafia will win during the night phase, since their have to be 2 mafia, maybe 3. And if their are 3 they will have the advantage right away and get the win with my death, but if their are 2 and you kill me you will also loose if you are town, even if you get a mafia lynched tomorrow, since it would be 1v2 going into the night, and then a 1v1, which would lead to an endgame.

Fastposted by Leehar.
Well with my win condition which you now know about you should see why I let him take the fall, and we also didn't know what would have happened if his role did change, it could have lead to an instant endgame, or we could have gotten a bigger town. Having a role that changes really screws with the game IMO.

[Leehar]

Remember you could also have helped with the 2 tracker mystery if you had confirmed Hippo was town tracker yesterday?