Rolegift Mafia 2 Endgame: Give 'til it Hurts

[Campin_Killer]

How is crazy suspicous? I'm pretty sure he's on vacation right now.

[Rodion]

Can we all agree NOT to lynch anyone before I get to process all the data to my liking?

[Yomiel]

Currently, I kind of want to vote for Crazy. It feels like she has been messing around for a while now. Aside from the general in activity, we have very clearly stated both Days that we want her to tell us what gifts she got. Though she made a post or two on the second Day, she still did not tell us what we wanted to know, even as we were waiting entirely on her before finishing things up. Then, today, she tells us who she gave her gift too, not what she got today or them. I just think its weird.

It's on the last page.>_>

[jak111]

You're right. I should have thought of that.

I would point out that while LSU's gift is still in play today, there's no guarantee it's sane either. Current indications are that jak is town, but that doesn't confirm the accuracy of the 8-ball by any stretch (or that jak is town, but I'm not about to make that case).

On top of that, there's currently no evidence to suggest that Campin's gift is LSU's or the other. By my count we're currently waiting on DJ, Tails, and Milkshake didn't claim what he received, so we're waiting on him too. If they don't have the second cop gift (unless I missed it) then there's reasonable doubt in a Yomiel lynch.

you and campin were in the same group from Spiesrs plan so as long as LSU adhered to that it should be the same cop gift

But LSU assumed he:

1. Had gifted PMC
2. Did not have the cop gift (his bet was tracker).

So unless he had figured that out the list is basically null. To my recollection, that did not occur. If you can show me otherwise, I'll concede that point.

Well, it looks like most of my processing has been done by others over the last few pages :/

So whatever Soundman knows is about PCM now.

As for the list thing, with PMC and PCM being in separate groups.. it's nearly impossible to say he group to either group since he didn't even know what he was due to a mod error >.<.

We probably should have gotten who he gifted to before he died if anyone. (Some gifts may be missing between PMC and Jonty though).

Could the mod prod the inactives so we can get more info?

[crazymilkshake5]

Vote: Crazy

May change it later, but I want to get things moving, and she still strikes me as the most suspicious right now.

why do you keep calling me a she? ffs man. its not that hard.

in other news, my computer was on the fritz, going to catch up.

[Yomiel]

So? You all call me a guy. We learn to live with it.

And it might be nice if you stopped playing the "catching up" card, because you did that yesterday, and you had us all waiting on you. We all still want to know what gifts you got last Night and the Night before.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

I'm a little behind atm; last night I had the watcher gift which I used, but I don't want to reveal whom I watched just yet. I also had the fishing line giftsteal, which I used but again don't wish to reveal on whom. I'll catch up later tonight if I have the time.

-Tails

[Yomiel]

What's the Watcher item?

[Rodion]

That leaves only 1 uncatalogued item.

Tail, did you use the fishing rod to steal the watching item?

What were the comprehensive mechanics on Jonty's power?

[spiesr]

you and campin were in the same group from Spiesrs plan so as long as LSU adhered to that it should be the same cop gift

Unfortunately, LSU almost definitely didn't know he was a cop gifter. (He would have mentioned it for sure.) He thought he sent his gift to pmchugh.

Can we rename this gift? "Busdrive" make no sense and really is confusing.O_o But now we've learned another gift.

I thought you had prior mafia experiance? The Busdriver role is fairly common/basic (on this site at least, I can only assume about elsewhere).

[Yomiel]

I'd never heard of it before. I'd heard of the similar Redirect, but never that role.

[everywhere116]

Huh, activity kind of slowed down there for a while. I take it we're all just waiting for crazy?

[Yomiel]

I'm on team "Let's just kill her, because all she does is hold up the game anyway".>_<

[Yomiel]

Currently, I kind of want to vote for Crazy. It feels like she has been messing around for a while now. Aside from the general in activity, we have very clearly stated both Days that we want her to tell us what gifts she got. Though she made a post or two on the second Day, she still did not tell us what we wanted to know, even as we were waiting entirely on her before finishing things up. Then, today, she tells us who she gave her gift too, not what she got today or them. I just think its weird.

And since writing this, she did the same exact thing AGAIN. I can't think this is just coincidence. I think she's doing it on purpose.

[Campin_Killer]

I'm on team "Let's just kill her, because all she does is hold up the game anyway".>_<

HE has already said he is a he and his computer is on the fritz anyways.

Vote: Crazy

May change it later, but I want to get things moving, and she still strikes me as the most suspicious right now.

why do you keep calling me a she? ffs man. its not that hard.

in other news, my computer was on the fritz, going to catch up.

[Yomiel]

Once I start calling someone by a certain gender, it tends to stick.

Anyway, that is hardly an excuse, since this has been going on for a while, long before any alleged computer problems. By now, Crazy has to know what gifts she has gotten, and we've asked numerous times. Yet each time, whenever she posts, it never has that info. I do not believe this is an accident.

I don't see anyone with any other leads.

[Rodion]

/, can you prod or replace Milkshake, please? Can you also extend the deadline so it won't fall in the weekend?

We may have leads. The busdriver-gifter could provide a lead potentially. Same for the daytalk-gifter (Milkshake, possibly). Tails may have watched Jonty or at least found information that conflicts claims. We just really need more activity so we are sure whether those potential leads are going to happen or whether we'll have to look through different means.

And the mechanics on the Jonty fishing rod are important too. Did you get to choose who you'd steal an item from or was it just handed to you like Jak's? Or did you pick a player and steal all items they had (which happened to be only 1 - the watcher)? Or am I completely wrong and it's something totally different?

[Yomiel]

Too many players tend to stay silent, so it's hard to get real leads.

[soundman]

You're just a troll Yomiel. It's not hard at all to switch from 'he' to 'she'. Especially when they already corrected you and obviously want you to use the proper one.

Vote Yomiel

I've stayed out of everything surrounding you and given you the benefit of the doubt. I've hoped that you could fit into this community and increase our player pool. I've even disagreed with how several others have treated you. But I've reached the end of my patience and am tired of your antics. I would prefer that you step down and let someone else take your place however I'll willingly push for your lynch/replacement if you don't. I'm sorry. I really hoped that you would become part of this community.

Mod, I know several others have already asked but could you get Crazy in here? Thanks.

After leaving this up and walking away for a bit to cool off I've decided to Unvote. I still want you out of the game and hope that you will step down or that the mod will replace you however I'm not going to possibly give the game to Mafia just to lynch you.

On a game related note, I have a few thoughts but need to hear what Crazy got both nights to see if they make any sense.

[Yomiel]

Sound, I find that behavior completely uncalled for. This game was going just fine. There has been no drama or arguing so far. Then you suddenly come out here, call me a troll, and vote for me. You may unvote later in your post, but that just shows how unnecessary it was for you to do it in the first place. Then you say you want me out of the game and want the mod to replace me. I haven't done anything. There has not been any drama or arguing, like I said earlier, yet you still apparently want me out of the game. It's more than a little ridiculous, and it kind of contradicts the other stuff you say. I mean seriously, what the heck? The game is drama-free, yet apparently this annoys you, so you come in and start drama? You apparently have no reason. You just call me a troll out of nowhere, then decide you want me out. Well, I'm not going anywhere, and I don't see the host replacing me for absolutely no reason, just because of your whims.

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/, can you prod or replace Milkshake, please? Can you also extend the deadline so it won't fall in the weekend?

Prodding milkshake, will replace if he isn't here by.... let's say Friday, because I'm quite busy today and tomorrow.
I'll extend the deadline to monday

and before anything starts up,

@ sound next time you cool off, maybe don't fastpost yourself
@ yomiel, if it bothers crazy, please try to remember to call him "he" from now on
No more talking about this, full stop. Play the game, other than my polite corrections, none of this ever happened, got it? Good, drop it or PM me.

[spiesr]

We may have leads. The busdriver-gifter could provide a lead potentially. Same for the daytalk-gifter (Milkshake, possibly). Tails may have watched Jonty or at least found information that conflicts claims. We just really need more activity so we are sure whether those potential leads are going to happen or whether we'll have to look through different means.

And the mechanics on the Jonty fishing rod are important too. Did you get to choose who you'd steal an item from or was it just handed to you like Jak's? Or did you pick a player and steal all items they had (which happened to be only 1 - the watcher)? Or am I completely wrong and it's something totally different?

Sorry for the low activity, I am waiting for these things that we need to get. I can confirm that I can't provide any of these leads.
My rolecop action revealed the owner of the surviving cop gifter. Do I need to reveal his identity?
Any to Yomiel, if you want to speed things up around here this is what you need to do. We won't be lynching anyone before we get this info unless the deadline forces us to. What you can do in the meantime is look through the posts so far and make a well researched case on someone. That way if this info does not produce any solid leads we will at least have something to go off of right away. (Voting for crazy based on his inactivity does not count as a "case.")

[Yomiel]

A whole day and no progress at all, nor any updates.@_@ I'm still suggesting we vote for Crazy. Is there anyone else who has neglected to tell us what we asked?

[Yomiel]

There is nothing.@_@ I've looked. I've been keeping very detailed notes. Right now, Crazy is the only one acting suspicious at all, from what I can see. It's not just inactivity. Even when here, Crazy neglects to give the info and even gave wrong info. Like I said, I believe this is deliberate. You may not think it's much, but no one else seems to have anything better.

[jak111]

There is nothing.@_@ I've looked. I've been keeping very detailed notes. Right now, Crazy is the only one acting suspicious at all, from what I can see. It's not just inactivity. Even when here, Crazy neglects to give the info and even gave wrong info. Like I said, I believe this is deliberate. You may not think it's much, but no one else seems to have anything better.

Could you copy and paste your detailed notes? Thanks.