Skyrim Mafia Endgame: Hail Sithis! (3/18) Skyrim Wins!

[pancakemix]

Unvote, so what now? Jonty and kageryuu have been mentioned, the later just posted after 9 days.

I thought kager was suspicious on Day 1. And now he comes in and adds nothing to the game. Just parrots what's already been said. Vote Kager.

Agree 100%

Vote Kager

[crazymilkshake5]

ok, well I'm back, and I am sorry for storming off, I misread xenhu's unvote as a vote. which put me over seeing as that would have put me at L-2.

Unvote, so what now? Jonty and kageryuu have been mentioned, the later just posted after 9 days.

This is false. he posted this on the 25th: (on the same page as /, i do believe. That man needs an avatar, )

wow quite a bit has happened since D2 started, it is strange that the Dovahkiins color is red when his faction is Skyrim, when another Skyrim guy (our Daedric friend) is colored blue and CMS's claim Maven is also Blue colored Skyrim faction, another thing is Brynjolf, he is colored blue but it says he is a thieves guild thief, and not a skyrim thief, so does that mean another faction or am i just thinking into it too much?

About CMS's claim, He is definitely a politician since he took my vote, and the character of Maven Blackbriar also fits, she is very influential (she basically has the thieves guild at her beck and call) she is unscrupulous (she's not afraid of sabotaging her competition or employing the DB too remove troublesome people) I am actually surprised CMS doesn't also have a one-shot NK ability by way of the Dark Brotherhood

I think thats all I can say atm, for now it is time to sleep

I find this bit interesting. "I am actually surprised CMS doesn't also have a one-shot NK ability by way of the Dark Brotherhood" Is he calling me a SK? surely some other character would be a better character than maven. Sithis or the Night Mother have potental of being in the game, but if anybody was the SK I think it would be either Astrid (Leader of the dark brotherhood that you can kill to destroy the dark brotherhood) or Nazir (One of the members to survive the destroying of the DawnStar Sanctuary.)

So for that, Vote Kager. But i shall refrain from putting the other vote on him.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

hey sorry guys i havent been totally active in this one. i am trying my best. i did however notice kagers scumminess in the begining. i dont think i ever voted him but i will now.vote kager

fastposted.
very good point

[LSU Tiger Josh]

I believe cms at this point. I think he is still a bit new which is why he was a bit eager to point out how he could " prove" his role. While kager has definitely been scummy quiet I still like the case on jonty for his mindless bandwagoning.

In regards to place games flavor i am beginning to think it might be those that prefer the status quo in blue verse those that are trying to change things which would explain why the main character was in a reddish color. It may not be your " typical" townies but the same thing was done in Sherwood forest when robin hood and the merry men were mafia with prince John sheriff of Nottingham etc as pro town.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

I believe cms at this point. I think he is still a bit new which is why he was a bit eager to point out how he could " prove" his role. While kager has definitely been scummy quiet I still like the case on jonty for his mindless bandwagoning.

In regards to place games flavor i am beginning to think it might be those that prefer the status quo in blue verse those that are trying to change things which would explain why the main character was in a reddish color. It may not be your " typical" townies but the same thing was done in Sherwood forest when robin hood and the merry men were mafia with prince John sheriff of Nottingham etc as pro town.

[kageryuu]

ok, well I'm back, and I am sorry for storming off, I misread xenhu's unvote as a vote. which put me over seeing as that would have put me at L-2.

Unvote, so what now? Jonty and kageryuu have been mentioned, the later just posted after 9 days.

This is false. he posted this on the 25th: (on the same page as /, i do believe. That man needs an avatar, )

your right, i do need an avatar

I find this bit interesting. "I am actually surprised CMS doesn't also have a one-shot NK ability by way of the Dark Brotherhood" Is he calling me a SK? surely some other character would be a better character than maven. Sithis or the Night Mother have potential of being in the game, but if anybody was the SK I think it would be either Astrid (Leader of the dark brotherhood that you can kill to destroy the dark brotherhood) or Nazir (One of the members to survive the destroying of the DawnStar Sanctuary.)

So for that, Vote Kager. But i shall refrain from putting the other vote on him.

let me try to clarify, I'm not saying maven would be an SK, just that due to her connections and previous use of the DB a 1-shot nk would not be surprising, not saying you do have that because just being a politician is a powerful role by itself, so the addition of a 1-shot nk would be a little op, and yes there are good potential sk characters, any of the remaining DB guys (Nazir, Babbete, Cicero (if the player spared him)) another being calixto, except he dies in the blood on ice quest, the bit about night mother potentialy being in game, thats highly doubtful, shes just a talking corpse, it'd be like jaks fake claim all over again (helga the friendly ghost)

[XenHu]

Sorry I haven't posted in a bit. Been super busy.

Unvote, so what now? Jonty and kageryuu have been mentioned, the later just posted after 9 days.

I thought kager was suspicious on Day 1. And now he comes in and adds nothing to the game. Just parrots what's already been said. Vote Kager.

That logic could be used against the majority of people here. I don't think that's a good enough reason to lynch him.

-X

[XenHu]

hey sorry guys i havent been totally active in this one. i am trying my best. i did however notice kagers scumminess in the begining. i dont think i ever voted him but i will now.vote kager

fastposted.
very good point

EBWOP: Like Clever, for example.

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Whilst mindless bandwagons are perhaps unhelpful most of the time, we do only have 3 days left to accomplish something, vote kage
Crazy, do you have kage's vote on kage? Please announce from now on when you place your stolen vote, we do not need accidental lynches.

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ebwop, nevermind, I saw you announced you did not place it on him.

[kageryuu]

Whilst mindless bandwagons are perhaps unhelpful most of the time, we do only have 3 days left to accomplish something, vote kage
Crazy, do you have kage's vote on kage? Please announce from now on when you place your stolen vote, we do not need accidental lynches.

and that puts me at L3, so time to claim

I am Wuunferth the Unliving, Skyrim Miller, those who did the quest blood on ice will know that I was wrongfully imprisoned when it was Calixto who killed all those people and was practicing Necromancy

[shieldgenerator7]

Hey I haven't forgotten about this game!

I'm catching up (pg 14 so far) it'll be slow but tomorrow I hope to be all caught up. I'll read recent things so is there anything I should be looking for while reading up or should I just take note of general things? thnx

See you later.

-SG7 ( )

[XenHu]

Brilliant. Two role claims in one day. The Stormcloaks and Thalmor might as well sleepwalk through this game(and they probably are.)

Whilst mindless bandwagons are perhaps unhelpful most of the time, we do only have 3 days left to accomplish something

No, no, no, no, no. This isn't going to fly anymore. It was fine for D1, but even so, look what happened there? In the space of one day and night, we have lost three pro-town. If we ever had a time where we could 'afford' to lose someone, the time has long passed. We've now forced two claims, both of which seem pretty legit.

If you really want to pressure inactives, here's a list:

soundman
Clever
ghostly
edocsil(not inactive, however, just rather timely that he is gone for the entire weekend. Don't like it. It's been used as an excuse by other players in the past.)
new guy(not inactive, but all I've seen him do is show up, start some shit for a page or two, and then leave. And I cannot ignore his 'softclaim' on Day 1. Why was he not killed during the night?)
shieldgenerator(Just showed up now to say he is catching up. We'll see what he brings to the table.)

Honestly, this is one game where I would love to be on the side of the antagonists. I'm calling it now, an easy win for the bad guys if this keeps up. So much potential for submarining between the amount of inactives and the role claims, it's crazy.

-X

[XenHu]

While kager has definitely been scummy quiet I still like the case on jonty for his mindless bandwagoning. .

Also, I missed this during my previous post. LSU does have a point. This shouldn't be forgotten.


-X

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I don't know, it doesn't seem very legit to me. I personally doubt it.
One more question though kageryuu, what is the character name of your mason partner?

[kageryuu]

I don't know, it doesn't seem very legit to me. I personally doubt it.
One more question though kageryuu, what is the character name of your mason partner?

Mason Partner?

Whilst mindless bandwagons are perhaps unhelpful most of the time, we do only have 3 days left to accomplish something, vote kage
Crazy, do you have kage's vote on kage? Please announce from now on when you place your stolen vote, we do not need accidental lynches.

and that puts me at L3, so time to claim

I am Wuunferth the Unliving, Skyrim Miller, those who did the quest blood on ice will know that I was wrongfully imprisoned when it was Calixto who killed all those people and was practicing Necromancy

Last I read masons and millers are different, A Miller is a person who when investigated appears guilty, but is pro-town

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Sorry, yes, that makes more sense.

aaand, at the same time, little sense depending on how the cop works.
if the cop sees results in the typical way for general games "scum" or "town", then it is possible, but if the cop sees "skyrim" or "thalmor" as the theme would suggest, it is unlikely that you would be mistaken as the wrong faction...

[nagerous]

I don't like this claim at all. It is illustrated that kageryuu has thematic knowledge of the game, and Wuunferth is the perfect character to fit the miller role. However, miller is a great role for scum to claim, as there would be no chance of something like a cop investigation proving otherwise.

[new guy1]

I believe that kagerru's claim is fake. My reasoning is because miller is the perfect mafia fakeclaim and also I would expect his character which he claimed to have a different role not the miller role. He is powerful from what I know as he is the magic user for the stormcloaks. He has to be good at what he does to be that high up in the resistance, so therefore I believe his claim would fit the bill as I have done that quest, but its too convenient of a claim. unvote, vote kage.

@X- I probably wasnt killed in the night because the mafia figured I would be watched.

[kageryuu]

Sorry, yes, that makes more sense.

and, at the same time, little sense depending on how the cop works.
if the cop sees results in the typical way for general games "scum" or "town", then it is possible, but if the cop sees "skyrim" or "thalmor" as the theme would suggest, it is unlikely that you would be mistaken as the wrong faction...

I am not sure how everywhere is going to have our skyrim cops work whether its purely on a Mafia/Town basis or a faction by faction basis, and atm we don't even know all the factions used in this game, from the D1 scene and Death scenes this is what I have

Thalmor: ~most likely to be mafia~
Skyrim: Leehar (Dovahkiin-Dead)
Skyrim: Jak (Sanguine-Dead), PCM (Jarl Maven-Alive), Kageryuu (Wuunferth-Alive)
Thieves Guild: IB (Brynjolf-Dead)

for all I know everywhere may have even added a Stormcloaks remnants faction, after all there are still officers with troops at stormcloak camps scattered across skyrim after you finish the civil war

I don't like this claim at all. It is illustrated that kageryuu has thematic knowledge of the game, and Wuunferth is the perfect character to fit the miller role. However, miller is a great role for scum to claim, as there would be no chance of something like a cop investigation proving otherwise.

Kage says Sarcastically: So knowing game lore is scummy? then by all means I should just play games with themes i have no knowledge of.

I believe that kageryuu's claim is fake. My reasoning is because miller is the perfect mafia fakeclaim and also I would expect (his character which he claimed to have a different role not the miller role). He is powerful from what I know as he is the magic user for the stormcloaks. He has to be good at what he does to be that high up in the resistance, (so therefore I believe his claim would fit the bill as I have done that quest), but its too convenient of a claim. unvote, vote kage.

@X- I probably wasnt killed in the night because the mafia figured I would be watched.

just parroting what Nag said
pray tell what role do you think my character should of had
Wuunferth is the court mage of the City of Windhelm, and every city of skyrim has a court mage who's abilities and personalities are fairly diverse, also all the court mages keep their positions no matter which side wins the civil war, only jarls , stewards (with the exception of windhelms(maybe more, haven't finished civil war with my stormcloak sided char) and thanes (with the exception of the player) are replaced with one friendly to the players supported faction, if Wuunferth was truly part of the stormcloak resistance, being as powerful he is he would likely have been replaced with a more imperial friendly mage
()so first you say that you think the role would be different, then you say that the role fits? which is it?

and if you believe the risk of losing another town just because their role is "convenient", then we'll be at (minimum) 5 town dead with possibly 6 if our vig is unlucky, at this rate i believe and agree with what Xenhu said

Honestly, this is one game where I would love to be on the side of the antagonists. I'm calling it now, an easy win for the bad guys if this keeps up. So much potential for submarining between the amount of inactives and the role claims, it's crazy.

-X

[new guy1]

I dont know what the role is called but I think you should have been either someone who knows who a mafia player is/ any other kind of scum (like an informant I guess you would call it) or a cop, because at the end of the quest you know when the real killer is striking and such, so either an informant or a cop because you know a fair bit of info in the questline.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Vote Jonty like I said earlier, I don't understand your mindless bandwagoning and I believe the other 2 claims at this point. Having a miller in this game does not make sense if the cop gets "flavor" results. If the cop comes out later and says that he is getting "innocent" or guilty" strictly than it would stand to reason that the miller could be a true claim so for now I'll pass on the miller lynch until the cop announces all his/her results when ready to do so and explain the type of info that the mod is giving them.

Right now I'm not worrying about the different factions that may or may not exist because that is just playing the mod and when people try to play the mod more times than not they get screwed.

[jonty125]

Vote Jonty like I said earlier, I don't understand your mindless bandwagoning and I believe the other 2 claims at this point. Having a miller in this game does not make sense if the cop gets "flavor" results. If the cop comes out later and says that he is getting "innocent" or guilty" strictly than it would stand to reason that the miller could be a true claim so for now I'll pass on the miller lynch until the cop announces all his/her results when ready to do so and explain the type of info that the mod is giving them.

Right now I'm not worrying about the different factions that may or may not exist because that is just playing the mod and when people try to play the mod more times than not they get screwed.

Would you care to quote where I have mindlessly bandwaggoned, I'm not saying I haven't bandwagonned but it is much easier to have a debate, if both parties can see the evidence for the case.


Anyhow, vote kager,

he teaches Common-level Destruction magic

I don't think this is good or this

He will also send Hired Thugs after the player if something is stolen from him

I don't actually play the game so if anyone with flavour knowledge would care to help me out then, feel free.

[nagerous]

I don't like this claim at all. It is illustrated that kageryuu has thematic knowledge of the game, and Wuunferth is the perfect character to fit the miller role. However, miller is a great role for scum to claim, as there would be no chance of something like a cop investigation proving otherwise.

Kage says Sarcastically: So knowing game lore is scummy? then by all means I should just play games with themes i have no knowledge of.

Incorrect interpretation of what I said. I just highlighted that he fits the miller role perfectly and you know enough of the game lore to figure that out. I know the game lore too, I've put enough hours into this game to last me a lifetime so why would I say that? You're just trying to desperately make a defence through deliberately misinterpretating my post. Now that is scummy.

he teaches Common-level Destruction magic

I don't think this is good or this

He will also send Hired Thugs after the player if something is stolen from him

I don't actually play the game so if anyone with flavour knowledge would care to help me out then, feel free.[/quote]

These things can be said of many characters and does not make the character claim scummy.

[everywhere116]

Vote Count 5

crazy: 1 (edocsil)
pancake: 1 (kageryuu)
kager: 7 (sound, pancake, crazy, clever, /, new guy, jonty) (L-1)
jonty: 1 (LSU)
Not Voting: 5 (nagerous, shield, cowboys, ghostly, XenHu)


With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline midnight 29th going on 30th. 33 hours.