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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Big Bang

Postby JamesKer1 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:27 am

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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Big Bang

Postby kratos644 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:06 am

No activity isn't going to get us anywhere. In a small game like this the faster we find mafia the better. I'm going to put out an FOS Colton24 because he hasn't posted anything since his joke vote
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Big Bang

Postby jonty125 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:27 am

kratos644 wrote:No activity isn't going to get us anywhere. In a small game like this the faster we find mafia the better. I'm going to put out an FOS Colton24 because he hasn't posted anything since his joke vote


That was only two days ago.

spiesr wrote:I would rather not go into detail about why.
So you claim to have additional info, please tell me how you haven't painted a target over you head?
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Big Bang

Postby gregwolf121 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:58 am

hmmm, had forgoten that my joke vote was still hanging around so unvote
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Big Bang

Postby kratos644 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:34 pm

jonty125 wrote:
kratos644 wrote:No activity isn't going to get us anywhere. In a small game like this the faster we find mafia the better. I'm going to put out an FOS Colton24 because he hasn't posted anything since his joke vote


That was only two days ago.

I realize this, but it is still possibly an early sign of potentially just trying to hide in the background that we shouldn't just overlook.
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Big Bang

Postby virus90 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:58 pm

well i better post quick just to get my name up ;)
anyway
virus90 wrote:lots of votes early on for some speculation. I am glad we atleast got the discussion going.
But spiesr i dont really get your reasoning yet, why would a mafia or cult guy point out the possibility of a cult. i might be new but its sounds counter intuitive to me. Lets say, if i was mafia/cult, i sure would not suggest/tell it to others. but thats just my line of reasoning.

always nice to quote yourself ;)

Spiesr any reaction to that as well ? didnt see it in your reaction to lootifer. :)
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Big Bang

Postby Anarkistsdream on Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:34 pm

Spiesr is smart... he led us down this path on purpose. Now, he may have done it attempting to be subtle, but... he has now received too much attention. So, he is town with info... he is a jester who meant to make himself a target, or he is a third party or mafia role attempting to 'communicate' with someone else out there... However, Let us make sure that we pay attention to everyone else too, because, no matter his role, we know there is still scum out there. I have been sick the last two days, but I am starting to feel better, so I should be more active
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Big Bang

Postby JamesKer1 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:26 pm

Scene incoming!

An innocent townsman was wandering around, doing his townly business. He felt his phone vibrate in his pocket, so he pulled it out and answered it. "Hello?" he asked into it, but the other line had dropped off. He put his phone back into his pocket, and glanced over his shoulder just in time to see something lurking in the shadows. He spun around just as the gun was put to his head. The gunsman told him "Come with me to the town hall, and tell everyone who you are."

He was lead to the town hall, turned on the PA system, and announced, trembling, "I am Spiesr, a member of the Town Night Investigation Unit." The gunsman fled, fearing what he had done, and the townsman went to the square, where everyone stared at him in awe.
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Big Bang

Postby Anarkistsdream on Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:37 pm

Son of a bitch! That is a powerful day role!
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Big Bang

Postby epic pie on Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:44 pm

Well, we just got 2 roles, one owner known, the other unknown. I assume these are a daycop, and a standard nightcop, obviously with no interaction between the two of them.

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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Big Bang

Postby virus90 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:54 pm

epic pie wrote:Well, we just got 2 roles, one owner known, the other unknown. I assume these are a daycop, and a standard nightcop, obviously with no interaction between the two of them.

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ah i get it, wel i hope we have a doc, atleast he knows who to save then :).

to speculate on other roles, because we now know there are atleast 2 powerroles with the town, would a roleblocking mafia be a logic character in the game? Well we probably find out after night 1 if someone is able to save spiesr.
and just out of curiosity if there would be a mafia roleblocker, what would happen if he blocks the day cop ? nothing or does he get blocked the next day then?
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Big Bang

Postby JamesKer1 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:00 pm

virus90 wrote:and just out of curiosity if there would be a mafia roleblocker, what would happen if he blocks the day cop ? nothing or does he get blocked the next day then?


The roleblocker, if it exists, will have been informed he may only block night actions, so the role that caused the above scene will not be affected.
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Big Bang

Postby Lootifer on Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:00 pm

Wowzers. Will think and post more later.
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Revealing

Postby Lootifer on Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:16 pm

"I am Spiesr, a member of the Town Night Investigation Unit."

^^

-> "Member" and "Unit"
-> This could mean theres more than on in this team
-> This coupled with a day investigator (that I cant find a good reason to think they would be scum - theres no good motive for ousting him, the less solid info the better for scum right?) means town have some very powerful PRs
-> Makes me think to balance this scum are also going to be very powerful
-> ???
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Revealing

Postby colton24 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:27 pm

Well...that screams Mafia Day Cop to me.
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Revealing

Postby colton24 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:28 pm

And Unvote spiesr
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Revealing

Postby Lootifer on Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:50 pm

colton24 wrote:Well...that screams Mafia Day Cop to me.

But why would they oust spiesr?

Im torn on the issue.

-> On one hand it guarantees a night kill (assuming the only doc, and he gets used on Spiesr)
-> On th other It leaks a lot of information, which is pretty pro-town on D1

Is there something im missing here?
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Revealing

Postby Lootifer on Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:51 pm

EBWOP

(assuming there is only one doc, and he gets used on Spiesr)
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Revealing

Postby spiesr on Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:45 pm

Lootifer wrote:"I am Spiesr, a member of the Town Night Investigation Unit."

^^

-> "Member" and "Unit"
-> This could mean theres more than on in this team
-> This coupled with a day investigator (that I cant find a good reason to think they would be scum - theres no good motive for ousting him, the less solid info the better for scum right?) means town have some very powerful PRs
-> Makes me think to balance this scum are also going to be very powerful
-> ???
I do not know of any other player's roles or anything like that. Town Night Investigation Unit is my role name. As you could probably deduce from that it is an investigative role, but not a straight cop.
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Revealing

Postby Lootifer on Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:03 pm

Ok since nobody else has spoken up much and Spiesr has been cleared (conditional on daycop being sane...). There is really nothing to go on; except that the setup is "weird but balanced" and that at least one person has supplementary information.

Assuming supplmentary information is not limited to spiesr does anyone else want to pop their head above the proverbial parapet regarding having additional information on the game? (bearing in mind the earlier mod warning).
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Revealing

Postby JamesKer1 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:11 pm

Lootifer wrote:Assuming supplmentary information is not limited to spiesr does anyone else want to pop their head above the proverbial parapet regarding having additional information on the game? (bearing in mind the earlier mod warning).


You may share information in your PM unless you are restricted in some form, just not quote it unless you are allowed to, which someone may or may not be allowed to. The warning wasn't because of something that happened, more of a precaution. There was one thing that popped out as toeing the lighter of the grey area (if that makes sense). But hey, share whatever you want within the rules. I can't stop anyone.
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Revealing

Postby gregwolf121 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:17 pm

wow was not expecting that kind of role in this game, i'm wondering if it was a one-shot thing or a use daily, i'm guessing it was used because they thought their was a chance spiesr was mafia, i don't see how, i was thinking that he was either a VT trying to sound like a town power role so the mafia would waste a kill on him, or he was a town power role that had some kind of info as to the set up of the game.
as to who would do so i'm not sure, my first thought is one of those who had voted for spiesr, but it wasn't that good of a case, so an experienced player wouldn't have used it yet, on the other hand colton could be correct and they are mafia, and wanted to find out spiesr's role because of his comment, i'll have to think on it,
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Revealing

Postby kratos644 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:43 pm

I'm not sure what to make of the situation exactly. Definitely some power-roles out their but the day role that was used certainly could have been either mafia or town.

Lootifer wrote:Ok since nobody else has spoken up much and Spiesr has been cleared (conditional on daycop being sane...). There is really nothing to go on; except that the setup is "weird but balanced" and that at least one person has supplementary information.

Assuming supplmentary information is not limited to spiesr does anyone else want to pop their head above the proverbial parapet regarding having additional information on the game? (bearing in mind the earlier mod warning).


Something I do want to draw attention to is what I put in blue. What benefit would we gain from other people claiming they also have information to share? This only appears to benefit the mafia at the moment because it would give them additional targets for the night.
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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Revealing

Postby kratos644 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:01 pm

kratos644 wrote:I'm not sure what to make of the situation exactly. Definitely some power-roles out their but the day role that was used certainly could have been either mafia or town.

Lootifer wrote:Ok since nobody else has spoken up much and Spiesr has been cleared (conditional on daycop being sane...). There is really nothing to go on; except that the setup is "weird but balanced" and that at least one person has supplementary information.

Assuming supplmentary information is not limited to spiesr does anyone else want to pop their head above the proverbial parapet regarding having additional information on the game? (bearing in mind the earlier mod warning).


Something I do want to draw attention to is what I put in blue. What benefit would we gain from other people claiming they also have information to share? This only appears to benefit the mafia at the moment because it would give them additional targets for the night. Assuming of course that the information is something that either can't be shared at all or has time restrictions on when it can be shared.

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Re: Wait, What? Mafia (9/9) D1: The Revealing

Postby Lootifer on Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:26 pm

kratos644 wrote:I'm not sure what to make of the situation exactly. Definitely some power-roles out their but the day role that was used certainly could have been either mafia or town.

Lootifer wrote:Ok since nobody else has spoken up much and Spiesr has been cleared (conditional on daycop being sane...). There is really nothing to go on; except that the setup is "weird but balanced" and that at least one person has supplementary information.

Assuming supplmentary information is not limited to spiesr does anyone else want to pop their head above the proverbial parapet regarding having additional information on the game? (bearing in mind the earlier mod warning).


Something I do want to draw attention to is what I put in blue. What benefit would we gain from other people claiming they also have information to share? This only appears to benefit the mafia at the moment because it would give them additional targets for the night.

Do you want me to answer that question or was it rhetorical?
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