Rolegift Mafia 2 Endgame: Give 'til it Hurts

[Campin_Killer]

Which in this case happens to be none, right?

[Yomiel]

I have shared plenty. You just will say and do anything to get me lynched, which is why I doubt you even have a Cop gift in the first place. I've already figured out plenty, including what Crazy's item is.

[Campin_Killer]

I have shared plenty. You just will say and do anything to get me lynched, which is why I doubt you even have a Cop gift in the first place. I've already figured out plenty, including what Crazy's item is.

Right, you caught me. I lied about the cop gift, guys![/sarcasm]

[Yomiel]

Wouldn't put it past you.

[Rodion]

Milkshake, in black and white:

1 - Did you get any items in the first night? If so, what were they and how did you use them?
2 - Set the following up for your replacement: have / tell him who Shield gifted to N1 and who you gifted to N2.~
3 - If possible, have / copy this when he PMs the replacement, so he can take action (if applicable) asap.

Actually, this line of thinking should not be exclusive to the busdriver-gifter. If anyone got an item and did not claim, they're almost certainly mafia.

Milkshake, here's your homework: you'll PM / to know who Shield gave his D1 gift to. If / answers Hensow, you're 99% sure the commuter-gifter. If he answers anything else, you're most likely to be the day-talk gifter. If you are the day-talk gifter and did not send to Saf/Aage D1, there's a good chance you sent to scum.

[Rodion]

Are you not listening? The THEORY is that the gift Campin has is the same one Pancake had. This is nothing but a theory. We KNOW that Jak was investigated with the gift Pancake had. Killing me costs a valuable gift and proves nothing. You had no idea who gave Campin his gift or how reliable it is. It could just as easily be the same gift I had. If you want to know about the gift Pancake had, the only way is to deal with the person that you KNOW he investigated.

Here is a solution. You'll note that I haven't voted for you yet. I know who the gifter of one of the cop gifts is. I will sit back and wait to see if this person agrees with this theory. (They will know which gift campin got.) At some unspecified point after I see they agree with it I will announce that the theory is confirmed. So we just need a bunch of people to drop by and say yay or nay on the theory.

If we can safely establish that the ball Campin claimed N2 is the same PCM claimed N1, then I like the idea of getting Yomiel lynched.

In order for this to happen, the player that was found by spiesr's rolecop as the "remaining cop" needs to "yay" the theory, which is another way of saying he did not gift Campin (which is another way of saying he gifted PMC/Jonty, since nobody else claimed the ball).

I don't need to yay/nay the theory as you know I'm not the remaining 8-ball cop, but I approve the plan.

/, can you get Tails prodded too? >.<

[Yomiel]

Are people so desperate to kill me off they're falling for this?-.- Seriously?

It is impossible to prove what gift Campin has, if he has any. Killing me also won't prove if the gift is accurate. And we already know there is at least one that is not accurate. Pancake investigated Jak. Killing Jak is the closest you're going to get to finding out the gift he had, not that it matters, since LSU and his gift are long gone.-.- This is all a waste.

We should be trying to get the Mafia, and the Cop Gifts aren't going to help much when we can't even trust them. At least my gift is useful.

[Campin_Killer]

And what, is your gift?

OH WAIT! DON'T TELL ME! You're going to refuse to out it, and say that it will help the town

[Yomiel]

I don't have to. My gift is already sent out, so it's not like it can be interfered with now. I also know what Crazy's gift most likely is.

I have the Commuter Gift.

[Campin_Killer]

Who did you gift last night?

[Yomiel]

Hensow.

[Campin_Killer]

Hensow.

Hensow, can you confirm this?

[Yomiel]

commuter (???)

it is a blanket I got it agian.

[Rodion]

Why would you protect Hensow of all people?

FOS.

[Yomiel]

>_>;

What's wrong with Hensow?

I was going to protect Campin, but since we're such good friends, I thought people might figure it out.: P

I didn't really have much of a reason. I tried to pick someone I didn't know or have any problems with, since I had little to go on. He seems okay.O_o

[Rodion]

If you want to make sure someone will not die, you should either:

a) aim for someone who has been cleared
b) aim for someone that has played in a pro-town manner, actively contributing and trying to find scum
c) aim for a renowned player that is capable of catching scum any given day and are consequently more likely to be targeted by mafia (see how mafia got Safari and Pmchugh killed?)

I just don't see why you'd want to protect Hensow.

And about your power, it is actually a nerfed bulletproof-gifter, as the bulletproof gifter will only protect from kills, but not interfere with investigations like a commuter would. It's a much more useful power in scum hands.

[Yomiel]

It protects from the forces of evil, so I'm considering it a useful gift.

I don't like choosing targets based solely on how they appear or what others say, because these can easily be tricks. I make up my own mind about who can be trusted. I chose Hensow. As for today, well, that's my secret. So is Crazy's gift...for now.

[everywhere116]

And about your power, it is actually a nerfed bulletproof-gifter, as the bulletproof gifter will only protect from kills, but not interfere with investigations like a commuter would. It's a much more useful power in scum hands.

Wouldn't that make it a buffed bulletproof gifter?

It protects from the forces of evil, so I'm considering it a useful gift.

I don't like choosing targets based solely on how they appear or what others say, because these can easily be tricks. I make up my own mind about who can be trusted. I chose Hensow. As for today, well, that's my secret. So is Crazy's gift...for now.

I find that weird. Rather than literally anyone else, you think that the most trustworthy person here and the one most worthy of your protection is the least active player, crazy/shield notwithstanding.

[thechuck51]

Owe claims:

Milkshake (from last day)
pancakemix
TA1LGUNN3R
Djfireside
thechuck51

Still 4 uncatalogued items.

commuter (???)

it is a blanket I got it agian.

I gave my item to hensew, so I think he got a blanket if i read his post right? so i give blankets apparently.

I don't have to. My gift is already sent out, so it's not like it can be interfered with now. I also know what Crazy's gift most likely is.

I have the Commuter Gift.

Somebody is lying.

If hensow received multiple gifts he needs to tell us ASAP

If not either crazy or yomiel is a liar. If we can't determine which we should lynch yomiel which would clear or condemn two people.

[everywhere116]

Nah, they're just confused. Hensow also received the pagers as a mason gift.

commuter (???)

it is a blanket I got it agian.

I gave my item to hensew, so I think he got a blanket if i read his post right? so i give blankets apparently.

last night I also got "pair of pagers" that give me day talk with another player but my target was changed

Hensow's chosen mason target was also switched from jak to PCM by DJ, who was a busdriver at the time.

[Yomiel]

O_o When did I say Crazy was worthy of my protection? Have I not been trying to get him lynched? My vote is still on him.

Hensow DID tell us he got two gifts.>_>; Mine and Crazy's. This is why notes come in handy.

[thechuck51]

Nah, they're just confused. Hensow also received the pagers as a mason gift.

commuter (???)

it is a blanket I got it agian.

I gave my item to hensew, so I think he got a blanket if i read his post right? so i give blankets apparently.

last night I also got "pair of pagers" that give me day talk with another player but my target was changed

Hensow's chosen mason target was also switched from jak to PCM by DJ, who was a busdriver at the time.

ok, so CM5 is the mason gifter and yomiel is the commuter gifter.

[Yomiel]

Of course.O_o

[Yomiel]

I hope someone gifts me this turn.@_@

[Rodion]

And about your power, it is actually a nerfed bulletproof-gifter, as the bulletproof gifter will only protect from kills, but not interfere with investigations like a commuter would. It's a much more useful power in scum hands.

Wouldn't that make it a buffed bulletproof gifter?

From the scum standpoint, yes. From town, no. Town players do not want an investigation on them "failing due to commuting", they want it to go through so they can be cleared as soon as possible.

So it's a nerfed bulletproof from town's standpoint and a buffed bulletproof from scum's standpoint.