Too many Items Mafia (4/14) Endgame: I Confess

[crazymilkshake5]

Are we still playing since Pershy and ??? have won?

yes

[Iron Butterfly]

Damn.

Neb was right. I dont understand the ???. If they have won why would they play?

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Could be scum, town, or linked with more win conditions.

But more to the point, THREE IN A ROW!

To: the last anti-townies, I'm sure the pressure is mounting, victory is far away, it's lonely. Just know there is no dishonor in surrender at this point, you did what you could.

[Iron Butterfly]

Hindsite is 20/20 but Pershy was a Hoarder. It sounded reasonable at the time but he talked me into letting him keeping the walkie talkie. He had to be able to hold onto all his item for a certain amount of time, till day 5, without it being stolen or forced from him? Thats the only special win condition I can think of.

In order to hoard items you must get items AND hold on to them. The night scene shows he had help although vague.

[Nebuchadnezer]

@ Neb - I know you've been away but I really don't get where you are coming from. On my reading pershy has been frequently posting and trying to nut things out. There is a difference between that and jumping around votes. I would have thought you would have gone a little more softly than to leap into voting by gut feeling on day 4! Something to think about tomorrow I guess. That is to say, more explanation from you and perhaps more clarification from pershy. But a vote? Seriously?

[samgrossy]

So do you think Jonty would drop the hammer on Spiesr if they were both scum? Because that's what he did. And if Pershy has been removed, are all the items gone? Destroyed? Is this now the not enough items mafia game?

[thehippo8]

Hindsite is 20/20 but Pershy was a Hoarder. It sounded reasonable at the time but he talked me into letting him keeping the walkie talkie. He had to be able to hold onto all his item for a certain amount of time, till day 5, without it being stolen or forced from him? Thats the only special win condition I can think of.

In order to hoard items you must get items AND hold on to them. The night scene shows he had help although vague.

Are you claiming to be third party assistant to Pershy here?

[zimmah]

Hindsite is 20/20 but Pershy was a Hoarder. It sounded reasonable at the time but he talked me into letting him keeping the walkie talkie. He had to be able to hold onto all his item for a certain amount of time, till day 5, without it being stolen or forced from him? Thats the only special win condition I can think of.

In order to hoard items you must get items AND hold on to them. The night scene shows he had help although vague.

Are you aware that something happened to you last night?

[jonty125]

So do you think Jonty would drop the hammer on Spiesr if they were both scum? Because that's what he did. And if Pershy has been removed, are all the items gone? Destroyed? Is this now the not enough items mafia game?

I'll respond to WIFOM with more WIFOM, if me and spieser were scumbuddies, and saw our faction were in trouble, surely we would try and throw each other under the bus to claim town credibility.

[thehippo8]

I love the way that everyone is avoiding everyone else and not answering any questions!

[Iron Butterfly]

Hindsite is 20/20 but Pershy was a Hoarder. It sounded reasonable at the time but he talked me into letting him keeping the walkie talkie. He had to be able to hold onto all his item for a certain amount of time, till day 5, without it being stolen or forced from him? Thats the only special win condition I can think of.

In order to hoard items you must get items AND hold on to them. The night scene shows he had help although vague.

Are you claiming to be third party assistant to Pershy here?

Absolutely not. Thinking out loud. I do not beat around the bush.

We have another third party who helped Pershy. How can another third party role help another?

/ is suspect to me the more I think about it. Did you notice that Pershy cleared Zimmah and / with his "I almost forgot" statement.

/ claimed without really claiming. He said he has a role with out any items and all he can do is protect someone from having their item taken.

[Iron Butterfly]

"/ is suspect to me the more I think about it. Did you notice that Pershy cleared Zimmah and / with his "I almost forgot" statement".

I take that back. I found the post and at first it appeared he was being protected, which he was but then Pershy proceeds to cast suspicion on him.

[samgrossy]

/ is suspect to me the more I think about it. Did you notice that Pershy cleared Zimmah and / with his "I almost forgot" statement.

/ claimed without really claiming. He said he has a role with out any items and all he can do is protect someone from having their item taken.

I am pretty sure that he is clear.

Fastposted by IB

[zimmah]

"/ is suspect to me the more I think about it. Did you notice that Pershy cleared Zimmah and / with his "I almost forgot" statement".

I take that back. I found the post and at first it appeared he was being protected, which he was but then Pershy proceeds to cast suspicion on him.

IB, are you aware that something happened to you last night?

[Iron Butterfly]

I have not received a PM other then the day has begun.

Stop being cryptic. If you know something speak up.

[zimmah]

I have not received a PM other then the day has begun.

Stop being cryptic. If you know something speak up.

i don't i only know something happened to you, and noone visited you.

i think i clam may be in order.

i'm the town watcher.

Night 1 SG7 visited /
Night 2 Spiesr visited SG7
Night 3 I watched samgrossy, he was not visited. (I also recieved a baseball bat, which i still have, but this is unrelated to my role as far as i know)
Night 4 I watched IB, he was not visited, but something happened to him. (i am not sure what though)

i think it's a good move to spill this info in case i get killed.

[jonty125]

Night 4 I watched IB, he was not visited, but something happened to him. (i am not sure what though)

How do you know that something happened to him?

[Iron Butterfly]

If you are Town watcher you watch to see who visited me. Why would your skill say something happened to me?

[zimmah]

If you are Town watcher you watch to see who visited me. Why would your skill say something happened to me?

how the hell should i know.

[jonty125]

If you are Town watcher you watch to see who visited me. Why would your skill say something happened to me?

how the hell should i know.

Well it is your role. Is there any flavour associated when it says "something happened" to IB.

[zimmah]

not at all, i found it very weird that anything could even happen to him while nobody visited him. i don't have any clue what it could be.

unless maybe he's the '???' guy, but in that case i think he's not harmful.

otherwise maybe someone did something to him the night before, and it only triggered just now.

[Iron Butterfly]

If you are Town watcher you watch to see who visited me. Why would your skill say something happened to me?

how the hell should i know.

No need to get testy.

I also see that a defibrillator was removed from the game. Perhaps someone tried to do something to me with an item? I obviously was not killed. perhaps I was protected or blocked or something?

[zimmah]

If you are Town watcher you watch to see who visited me. Why would your skill say something happened to me?

how the hell should i know.

No need to get testy.

I also see that a defibrillator was removed from the game. Perhaps someone tried to do something to me with an item? I obviously was not killed. perhaps I was protected or blocked or something?

that's the thing, you were not targeted by anyone. (except for me, who just watched you)

the thing that happened to you must have come from yourself, a ninja, or a previous action.

[Iron Butterfly]

I love the way that everyone is avoiding everyone else and not answering any questions!

I would think someone standing on the sidelines asking stupid questions would be worse.

[samgrossy]

For what its worth, ??? was taken off the win list. It seems that we have a re-entry that we may want to be careful of?