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Joke voting

Postby aage on Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:13 am

As everyone probably knows, joke voting is part of the first day to get things going. It's called "joke voting" because you vote someone for a ridiculous and often irrelevant reason, but which is sometimes funny.

Still, everyone seems to have rules about this, such as "don't vote for someone that has been voted for or you'll start a wagon, and we don't want that" (although I really don't know what you're afraid of...), and some even define it as a "stage" the game has to go through. And often a player is of the impression that at a certain point in time, "the joke vote stage is over". Probably because someone made a "joke" that went too far or someone cast a vote on someone who already had a vote, and everyone decides to wagon against this so-called scummy player.


There appears to be a guideline for Day 1 and how it's supposed to be handled. First off, we start with jokes until we get serious (however, nobody exactly knows when that will be, so we are not serious until someone steps up and shouts, "HEY YOU! the joke voting stage is over!"). Secondly, we don't want a lot of claims, but we do want to pressure people since there has to be a lynch, which seems hypocritical at the least, because pressure often leads to a claim (and there's frankly not much more to offer during a Day 1). And thirdly, if anyone even dares to suggest this is stupid while in an in-game context, said person is lynched for suggesting a no lynch, or for zealously defending what would be their scumbuddy (while these people statistically turn out to be town in the majority of the games). This is why I started a new topic about this. :)

A guideline that is apparently broken.

Can someone explain to me exactly what is the code of conduct during this day 1, and if this was it, then can someone please explain the point of it to me? I know the game has to go into Night 1 by some means, but I don't think that's supposed to happen with the regular amount of jokes, announcements of getting out of "the joke voting stage" and roleclaims.
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Re: Joke voting

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:37 am

vote aage for subtly pushing for a no lynch
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Re: Joke voting

Postby Commander9 on Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:50 am

Haggis_McMutton wrote:vote aage for subtly pushing for a no lynch


BW vote aage.
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: Joke voting

Postby strike wolf on Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:52 am

vote haggis for abruptly implying that any lynch is better than a no lynch.
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Re: Joke voting

Postby TheSaxlad on Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:17 am

Guys Guys. This Has Passed the Joke Vote stage now. vote strike wolf for starting an unnesecary waggon.
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Re: Joke voting

Postby aage on Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:47 am

And this is exactly what I mean. Thanks for illustrating, now get serious. Please.
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Re: Joke voting

Postby TheSaxlad on Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:56 am

Ok. :) I dont think its set in stone, in one of fircoals games the joke vote stage could be the whole game, or just the first day. Usually I find its when someone starts to build a case on someone else and after the first real case comes out then anything after that is considered non-kosher.

Oh one more thing since nobody voted me im claiming mafia godfather :)

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Re: Joke voting

Postby aage on Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:08 pm

TheSaxlad wrote:Ok. :) I dont think its set in stone, in one of fircoals games the joke vote stage could be the whole game, or just the first day. Usually I find its when someone starts to build a case on someone else and after the first real case comes out then anything after that is considered non-kosher.

A case based on what? Jokes?

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Define non-kosher.
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Re: Joke voting

Postby strike wolf on Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:31 pm

Usually it goes on till some new player or maybe even old player overreacts to a post against them and one person calls them out on it. Then everyone argues about which of the two are more scummy until someone says "hey this guy's submarining. kill him" And thus discussion is born.
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Re: Joke voting

Postby TheSaxlad on Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:01 pm

strike wolf wrote:Usually it goes on till some new player or maybe even old player overreacts to a post against them and one person calls them out on it. .


non kosher.
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Re: Joke voting

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:24 pm

Sort of along the lines of what strike wolf said, you just eff around until somebody slips up and makes a rash vote or justifies his vote in a scummy way. Joke voting on Day 1 is a good way to pick up discussion, as there really isn't any other way. I mean, I guess you could have a Night 0 (effectively what you're doing with a Day 1 no lynch), but then someone (or sometwo-or-more) don't get to really play. That's my brief opinion, anyway. Toodles.
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Re: Joke voting

Postby safariguy5 on Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:38 pm

Night 0 is usually for investigative roles only. I think that joke voting as the first vote is ok. Any more than that and it gets annoying. Also, OMGUS's a joke vote is pretty scummy in my book.
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Re: Joke voting

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:18 pm

aage wrote:"don't vote for someone that has been voted for or you'll start a wagon, and we don't want that" (although I really don't know what you're afraid of...)


I agree with this 100%. Unless it's a super small game where only 3 or 4 votes are needed, I don't get why everyone gets worried about joke BWs. If someone is even at L-1 with all joke votes, they should feel no need to claim, because there's no basis for a case. If you're worried about that extra stupid scum who decides to hammer, then guess what, you've outed one of them.

Also vote Victor Sullivan for saying "toodles."

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Re: Joke voting

Postby / on Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:12 pm

Eh, it's a game, might as well make it fun. From what I've seen it's a bit of a game of chicken, someone has to be the victim whether or not the joke stage has ended, and since there is no info if the joke stage has been played successfully, the victim has three options;
1.Try to make a case on someone else, ending in fueling their own wagon because the evidence is lousy
2.Go crazy and OMGUS everyone on their wagon, ending in fueling their own wagon
3.Go with it and play it cool until everyone is horribly sick of day one and hope someone tries to push to end it, this is the next victim.


Of course there is the secret code that usually works if you want to end the nightmare already without becoming the victim:
We won't get anywhere this way, Vote aage so we have some info to go on.
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