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betiko wrote:vodean wrote:spiesr wrote:I had a specific, albeit not explicitly mentioned, goal in mind when I joined the bandwagon on you. That was to ensure to the the game quickly made the full transition to serious discussion and that we had something to talk about. As Shaggy just said, we only have four days left until the deadline. In order to achieve a "good" lynch today we need the discussion to start as soon as it can. (Especially if we want to option of pursuing someone other than the first candidate we find to remain viable.) As such I decided to move on the first halfway serious case anyone comes up with, either supporting and pushing it forward, or attacking it's maker. /'s thing on you came up first, I decided that hitting you looked more favorable than the reverse. It is of course a shit case, but you know Day 1, however it seems to be accomplishing my goal and things are starting to move forward. If you have a compelling argument for how this makes me scummy please present it as soon a possible so that we may have more things to work with. As it stands your weak OMGUSesc reaction isn't really helping you much in my view.betiko wrote:this post is stupid enough for me spiesr. unvote vote spiesr. You feel like pressuring me, I think you sound like a good client with all the mod ass licking and the quick stuborn bandwagoning.spiesr wrote:This early on day 1 this is good enough for me. Vote betiko./ wrote:my my, defensive aren't you?
You make it sound like an either/or senario, "shut up and talk about unrelated subjects!"
And yet, you completely gloss over my actual critique, I asked, how does it help to list potential town names?
I dont remember exactly what i saw, and in truth, i dont fully see it any more. but it was to do with jumping on whatever BW that came along, and you also do what you are accusing me of, voting without reason -- except worse. you quote another person, jump on their BW, and give no reason.
I suspect that edoc and betiko are actually talking about a currently active game and are just trying to cover their asses. I was in matrix mafia as a VT, not 3rd party. but you all seemed rather aggressive. betiko does not ALWAYS play aggressively, however, as he seems to want us to think, just in games where he is anti-town and two currently active ones. here i'd say they are both scum or town (or 3rd party) and are trying to get on the same page. they might be masoned. FOS betiko, but i think my vote stays on spiesr
loooooooooool we are either town, scum or 3rd party! you blow my mind again vodean.
new guy1 wrote:In my opinion, we should have done what Betiko was saying to do and moved on to see if there was a better case instead of arguing whether he is lynchworthy or not. If at the end of the day we have a better lead, lynch them, if at the end of the day we came up with the shit end of the stick and didnt get anything, pressure Betiko for an actual role claim. Of course I am a little bit late on this, but this is a lesson to be learned for future days to come, since unless night actions prove to be efficient and get us a lead, we will have nothing but betiko, speiser, vodean or edocsil to go on, which even though there are alot of names on that list, there is not alot of information on any of them.
vodean]I suspect that edoc and betiko are actually talking about a currently active game and are just trying to cover their asses. I was in matrix mafia as a VT, not 3rd party. but you all seemed rather aggressive. betiko does not ALWAYS play aggressively, however, as he seems to want us to think, just in games where he is anti-town and two currently active ones. here i'd say they are both scum or town (or 3rd party) and are trying to get on the same page. they might be masoned. FOS betiko, but i think my vote stays on spiesr[/quote]
What evidence do you have for your thoughts of them being on the same side? Surely if they were scum, third party together or mason'd Edoc wouldn't have pushed so hard on Bekito bringing him right into the spotlight for day one. The risk vs. reward of that play is horrible. On top of that, instead of looking at a relevent case you keep a vote on you put forward 5 pages ago with only this reason to explain it:
[quote="vodean wrote:your earlier post stood out to me before, but now i think its enough for a vote. unvote vote spi
vodean wrote:I suspect that edoc and betiko are actually talking about a currently active game and are just trying to cover their asses. I was in matrix mafia as a VT, not 3rd party. but you all seemed rather aggressive. betiko does not ALWAYS play aggressively, however, as he seems to want us to think, just in games where he is anti-town and two currently active ones. here i'd say they are both scum or town (or 3rd party) and are trying to get on the same page. they might be masoned. FOS betiko, but i think my vote stays on spiesr
vodean wrote:your earlier post stood out to me before, but now i think its enough for a vote. unvote vote spi
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
lord voldemort wrote:40 mins ish for actions...get them in if you havent
betiko wrote:lord voldemort wrote:40 mins ish for actions...get them in if you havent
i guess they are over?
safariguy5 wrote:I suppose I have to be...flattered you guys are still talking about my game. For the record, pmc was recruited by cult, so you all knew who cult was. At that point, with mafia seriously diminished, third party just had to see which side between town and cult was going to win.
But that's beside the point.
What I find exceedingly curious is that you guys are bringing in a full discussion of an archived game that really has no bearing on this game. Not only are you guys overanalyzing the meta on a pretty old game (I consider anything that get's moved to archive old), but other people are actually trying to use it build cases on one of you two. Really??!!! I personally reference older games if I see similarities, but I wouldn't use meta reasons based solely on an old game to construct an entire case.
FOS edoc for arguing with betiko about it.
unvote vote betiko for bringing it up in the first case and then trying to redirect pressure onto edoc using an alignment argument.
IGMEOY strike for seriously buying into it.
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
betiko wrote:safariguy5 wrote:I suppose I have to be...flattered you guys are still talking about my game. For the record, pmc was recruited by cult, so you all knew who cult was. At that point, with mafia seriously diminished, third party just had to see which side between town and cult was going to win.
But that's beside the point.
What I find exceedingly curious is that you guys are bringing in a full discussion of an archived game that really has no bearing on this game. Not only are you guys overanalyzing the meta on a pretty old game (I consider anything that get's moved to archive old), but other people are actually trying to use it build cases on one of you two. Really??!!! I personally reference older games if I see similarities, but I wouldn't use meta reasons based solely on an old game to construct an entire case.
FOS edoc for arguing with betiko about it.
unvote vote betiko for bringing it up in the first case and then trying to redirect pressure onto edoc using an alignment argument.
IGMEOY strike for seriously buying into it.
hum why would they go for him? here is his last post with content. I think that mafia is well aware that I'm the town's number 1 target after day 1 and didn't go for me also for what I kind of softclaimed telling that I didn't fear what could scum do during the night. If I'm pressured today I don't mind revealing my role anymore I see I have to change strategy now with our doc killed.
pmchugh wrote:If I wasn't lazy, I would sig that
betiko wrote:safariguy5 wrote:I suppose I have to be...flattered you guys are still talking about my game. For the record, pmc was recruited by cult, so you all knew who cult was. At that point, with mafia seriously diminished, third party just had to see which side between town and cult was going to win.
But that's beside the point.
What I find exceedingly curious is that you guys are bringing in a full discussion of an archived game that really has no bearing on this game. Not only are you guys overanalyzing the meta on a pretty old game (I consider anything that get's moved to archive old), but other people are actually trying to use it build cases on one of you two. Really??!!! I personally reference older games if I see similarities, but I wouldn't use meta reasons based solely on an old game to construct an entire case.
FOS edoc for arguing with betiko about it.
unvote vote betiko for bringing it up in the first case and then trying to redirect pressure onto edoc using an alignment argument.
IGMEOY strike for seriously buying into it.
hum why would they go for him? here is his last post with content. I think that mafia is well aware that I'm the town's number 1 target after day 1 and didn't go for me also for what I kind of softclaimed telling that I didn't fear what could scum do during the night. If I'm pressured today I don't mind revealing my role anymore I see I have to change strategy now with our doc killed.
betiko wrote:safariguy5 wrote:I suppose I have to be...flattered you guys are still talking about my game. For the record, pmc was recruited by cult, so you all knew who cult was. At that point, with mafia seriously diminished, third party just had to see which side between town and cult was going to win.
But that's beside the point.
What I find exceedingly curious is that you guys are bringing in a full discussion of an archived game that really has no bearing on this game. Not only are you guys overanalyzing the meta on a pretty old game (I consider anything that get's moved to archive old), but other people are actually trying to use it build cases on one of you two. Really??!!! I personally reference older games if I see similarities, but I wouldn't use meta reasons based solely on an old game to construct an entire case.
FOS edoc for arguing with betiko about it.
unvote vote betiko for bringing it up in the first case and then trying to redirect pressure onto edoc using an alignment argument.
IGMEOY strike for seriously buying into it.
hum why would they go for him? here is his last post with content. I think that mafia is well aware that I'm the town's number 1 target after day 1 and didn't go for me also for what I kind of softclaimed telling that I didn't fear what could scum do during the night. If I'm pressured today I don't mind revealing my role anymore I see I have to change strategy now with our doc killed.
crazymilkshake5 wrote:@Bekito.
Does bane have a night action?
if yes, mind telling us who you targeted?
betiko wrote:safariguy5 wrote:I suppose I have to be...flattered you guys are still talking about my game. For the record, pmc was recruited by cult, so you all knew who cult was. At that point, with mafia seriously diminished, third party just had to see which side between town and cult was going to win.
But that's beside the point.
What I find exceedingly curious is that you guys are bringing in a full discussion of an archived game that really has no bearing on this game. Not only are you guys overanalyzing the meta on a pretty old game (I consider anything that get's moved to archive old), but other people are actually trying to use it build cases on one of you two. Really??!!! I personally reference older games if I see similarities, but I wouldn't use meta reasons based solely on an old game to construct an entire case.
FOS edoc for arguing with betiko about it.
unvote vote betiko for bringing it up in the first case and then trying to redirect pressure onto edoc using an alignment argument.
IGMEOY strike for seriously buying into it.
hum why would they go for him? here is his last post with content. I think that mafia is well aware that I'm the town's number 1 target after day 1 and didn't go for me also for what I kind of softclaimed telling that I didn't fear what could scum do during the night. If I'm pressured today I don't mind revealing my role anymore I see I have to change strategy now with our doc killed.
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