Account Sitting Abuse - josko.ri [warned]

by **lord voldemort** on Mon May 30, 2011 12:53 pm

again loki...
are you actually that upset??

seriously...file a report...
It goes like this
Step 1: click indicated button

Step 2: Fill in title (I even recommended one)

Step 3: This is tricky...and will require some effort by you...as well as a nice story...Fill in this form detailing what I did and the games Involved...And the people involved...as I dont think it was all of my empire buddies.

Step 4: This one is obvious...click the button

Hope this clears the issue up

by **HardAttack** on Mon May 30, 2011 2:00 pm

lol LV.

by **lokisgal** on Mon May 30, 2011 3:30 pm

No lovo im not that upset dont flatter yourself so much. I
It was not one turn It was mulitple times . I still have all the screen shots from the mulitple times his flag was changing back and forth sometimes as much as 4 times in a 24 hour period.

Im using this just an example of how much this goes on with in clans and as ive said every time ive posted its nothing against Empire I dont know wh,y unless you all feel there is some tooth to what I say, that you all have to come rushing in.

As I keep saying this is just an example of how clans do this all the time and thats it.

by **jj3044** on Mon May 30, 2011 3:32 pm

lokisgal wrote:No lovo im not that upset dont flatter yourself so much. Im just merely pointing out another example of this sort of thing.
you doth protest yet again to much

Apples and hand grenades loki...

by **lord voldemort** on Mon May 30, 2011 3:36 pm

lokisgal wrote:No lovo im not that upset dont flatter yourself so much. Im just merely pointing out another example of this sort of thing.
you doth protest yet again to much

do i need to remind you of the dead horse being brutally beaten??

by **lokisgal** on Mon May 30, 2011 3:40 pm

you guys dont read well do you

get a life its AN EXAMPLE and acct sitting abuse is sitting abuse. Doesnt matter if its 10 times or 100 . Ive been nice about
Now back to the topic at hand and learn to read the word

EXAMPLE

by **lord voldemort** on Mon May 30, 2011 3:50 pm

How the f*ck is it relevant to josko sitting for members of kort?
He was allegedly sitting others in his clan to gain an advantage to him being a better player.

you keep saying I let others take my turns..on 1 map where I am one of the stronger players? Not to mention having a valid excuse for needing a sitter.
Do you see the difference??
Now...take my advice in simple easy to read picture form...or STFU. Im sick of having my name dragged around in the mud with your bullshit

by **patrickaa317** on Mon May 30, 2011 4:04 pm

lord voldemort wrote:How the f*ck is it relevant to josko sitting for members of kort?
He was allegedly sitting others in his clan to gain an advantage to him being a better player.

Agreed. I think this thread needs to be locked unless more evidence or discussion around Josko will be added.

by **Dako** on Mon May 30, 2011 4:16 pm

lokisgal wrote:No lovo im not that upset dont flatter yourself so much. I
It was not one turn It was mulitple times . I still have all the screen shots from the mulitple times his flag was changing back and forth sometimes as much as 4 times in a 24 hour period.

I can create a screenshot of your profile with any flag on it, even with decepticons emblem.

by **lokisgal** on Mon May 30, 2011 4:16 pm

lord voldemort wrote:How the f*ck is it relevant to josko sitting for members of kort?
He was allegedly sitting others in his clan to gain an advantage to him being a better player.

you keep saying I let others take my turns..on 1 map where I am one of the stronger players? Not to mention having a valid excuse for needing a sitter.
Do you see the difference??
Now...take my advice in simple easy to read picture form...or STFU. Im sick of having my name dragged around in the mud with your bullshit

ease up lovo if you actually read what I say it is relevent to this entire discussion about josko as it has to do with where do we draw the line for what is acceptable for baby sitting.

Its a much larger issue than just josko as has already been pointed out multiple times in this thread. Its something that seems to be pretty rampant in lot of clans thats the point Im trying to make. I keep using the word EXAMPLE and Ive said multiple times its not personal

by **lokisgal** on Mon May 30, 2011 4:18 pm

Dako wrote:
lokisgal wrote:No lovo im not that upset dont flatter yourself so much. I
It was not one turn It was mulitple times . I still have all the screen shots from the mulitple times his flag was changing back and forth sometimes as much as 4 times in a 24 hour period.

I can create a screenshot of your profile with any flag on it, even with decepticons emblem.

If you can do this then I guess we have to trust that mods would always do their jobs and check ip addresses. In my experience this isnt always the case which is why I never file C and A reports anymore.

by **lord voldemort** on Mon May 30, 2011 4:19 pm

This isnt a discussion for where you think the line is to be drawn...Its a thread for evidence
Discussion for rule changes should take place in sugs.

And you are saying you dont trust the hunters to do their jobs..
Remind me again why the f*ck are you posting in this forum then?

by **lokisgal** on Mon May 30, 2011 4:27 pm

let it go lovo youre going to get this thread locked.
I made a simple statement and you and yours are ratcheting it up way to high.
Youre right its about josko but if you read back through it all there has been discussion about how this goes on way to much in top clans.
Ill say it one more time I used this as an example. Let it go so the thread can move on.
EXAMPLE read the entire thread people have brought up this as an issue much larger than just josko and thats all im responding too. Ive stated many times its not personal but you seem to want to make it so.

by **lord voldemort** on Mon May 30, 2011 4:29 pm

Then perhaps dont use my fucking name as an example of something I didnt do ok

by **Night Strike** on Mon May 30, 2011 4:30 pm

loki, if you want to let it go, STOP POSTING ABOUT IT! You accused lovo (in a thread that wasn't even about him) and he defended himself. Instead of you just dropping it or making your own thread, you've instead chosen to spam this thread. Please either drop the pissing match or make a new C&A thread. Either way, stop posting about it in this thread. This thread has been perfectly civil until you had to bring up and continue this spat.

by **lokisgal** on Mon May 30, 2011 4:48 pm

Night Strike wrote:loki, if you want to let it go, STOP POSTING ABOUT IT! You accused lovo (in a thread that wasn't even about him) and he defended himself. Instead of you just dropping it or making your own thread, you've instead chosen to spam this thread. Please either drop the pissing match or make a new C&A thread. Either way, stop posting about it in this thread. This thread has been perfectly civil until you had to bring up and continue this spat.

my intention isnt to accuse lovo but rather to point to the larger issue of how this goes on way to often in clan wars. This point has been raised already in this thread, hence its not spam. I have as I said before screen shots but as Dako so kindly pointed out apparently they can be doctored which is news to me. Im not interested in C and A normally but I am when it pertains to clans as a whole as a much larger issue and as its been pointed out before this is clearly a much larger issue
Note the use of the word EXAMPLE which no one seems to be able to understand'

Example
–noun
1.
one of a number of things, or a part of something, taken to show the character of the whole: This painting is an example of his early work.
2.
a pattern or model, as of something to be imitated or avoided: to set a good example.
3.
an instance serving for illustration; specimen: The case histories gave carefully

by **lord voldemort** on Mon May 30, 2011 4:50 pm

The point is you have no right to use me as an example for something I didnt do...you accusing me of being a cheat without any punishment or case against me.

Can you not see how this sits bad with me

by **jj3044** on Mon May 30, 2011 5:29 pm

Loki, your use of Drew as an example means that you are ACCUSING him in this thread of the exact thing Josko is being accused of. If you haven't already been warned in a PM by a mod, you might want to expect one. "Baseless accusations will not be tolerated" ... that is in the CC doctrine somewhere, right? The two points of this accusation to Josko were 1) that the sitting was happening when the player was not in jeporady of missing (NOT the same), and 2) the sitting was specifically for the purpose of gaining an advantage from it (NOT the same, as players in a foggy hive match who are sitting have no way of looking at snaps (when Ninja sat a turn for him), and we do not leave detailed instructions on that map (and from previous explanation, you know why I was in the process of covering that turn). We have a system, everyone knows what they need to do).

Go ahead and argue either of those points if you want, but TAKE IT TO A NEW THREAD.

by **ljex** on Mon May 30, 2011 5:30 pm

lokisgal wrote:you guys dont read well do you

get a life its AN EXAMPLE and acct sitting abuse is sitting abuse. Doesnt matter if its 10 times or 100 . Ive been nice about
Now back to the topic at hand and learn to read the word

EXAMPLE

For us to read correctly you might want to learn to spell correctly and write coherent sentences.

by **lokisgal** on Mon May 30, 2011 6:58 pm

so nasty. Lets get back on topic to josko and perhaps the larger issue at hand which is what the site needs to do to clean up this sort of thing from happening in the first place

by **Evil Semp** on Mon May 30, 2011 7:05 pm

You guys and gals did so good for so long but now I think we need to lock this.

by **Evil Semp** on Tue May 31, 2011 9:44 am

Now please keep it on topic.

by **Serbia** on Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:25 pm

It's my hope that while the defense is obviously not going to be publicly made in this case, that the mods will still announce publicly their findings and determinations, regardless of the outcome.

by **Evil Semp** on Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:39 pm

Serbia wrote:It's my hope that while the defense is obviously not going to be publicly made in this case, that the mods will still announce publicly their findings and determinations, regardless of the outcome.

Yes we will.

by **The Voice** on Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:17 pm

Would restricting a single player to sit no more than 2-3 players help any? You could perhaps create a program that enabled you to choose 2-3 people you want to sit for in times when they really need it. You could only allow people to change who they sit for once a week or something like that? I know there will be loopholes no matter what action is taken. But since most people will probably agree that sitting is necessary, we should probably try to figure this one out without overreacting.