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Re: Why did max get busted?

Postby Bones2484 on Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:41 pm

Aradhus wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
Aradhus wrote:
Natewolfman wrote:as far as ive seen the biggest official reason was his multiple comments in games that are not his, insightly argument and not leaving when asked (all against the rules).


I've seen dozens and dozens of players do this.


Do these dozens and dozens of players have a history of warnings and previous bans?


What they don't have is a group of players who HATE them, and do everything they can to get others to hate them, and whine incessantly for them to be banned.


Along with not having a history of warnings and previous bans, of course.
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Re: Why did max get busted?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:11 pm

Aradhus wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:For anybody who plays speed games or has been high ranked for a time, knows max loves to watch games. He likes to watch all high rankers. He used to be really pleasant and say gl, etc. Then he start to get better himself and got ruder and more outspoken.


Couldn't possibly be him reacting to certain players goading him, telling him he was useless, that he only won points by farming, starting multiple threads attacking him, hijacking threads that were nothing to do with him and turning them into attacks against max etc. etc.

He couldn't possibly have been reacting to that, no. One day he just woke up and thought he'd go from being pleasant to being a prick...(because that makes total sense, cos nothing in life has a reason, everything is just random..)


Not at all. He used to be friends with many of us. As he got better himself he started calling out mistakes and plays. Now remember most of these were freestyle speed games. Nobody needs someone calling out your mistakes as you are trying to play. Slowly he managed to piss off just about every speed game player. He did not make a single post on the forums until his cheating thread came up. By this point he was already far gone with most of us.
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Re: Why did max get busted?

Postby hulmey on Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:52 pm

Aradhus wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
Aradhus wrote:
Natewolfman wrote:as far as ive seen the biggest official reason was his multiple comments in games that are not his, insightly argument and not leaving when asked (all against the rules).


I've seen dozens and dozens of players do this.


Do these dozens and dozens of players have a history of warnings and previous bans?


What they don't have is a group of players who HATE them, and do everything they can to get others to hate them, and whine incessantly for them to be banned.


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Re: Why did max get busted?

Postby demonfork on Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:07 am

hulmey wrote:
Aradhus wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
Aradhus wrote:
Natewolfman wrote:as far as ive seen the biggest official reason was his multiple comments in games that are not his, insightly argument and not leaving when asked (all against the rules).


I've seen dozens and dozens of players do this.


Do these dozens and dozens of players have a history of warnings and previous bans?


What they don't have is a group of players who HATE them, and do everything they can to get others to hate them, and whine incessantly for them to be banned.


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Re: Why did max get busted?

Postby gundiesalvo on Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:39 am

jarrett155 wrote:I propose another ban, Twill himself should be removed from the Conquer Club Community!


Make another topic on that and see where it goes, that doesn't belong in here.

jarrett155 wrote:if you ride the bus everyday and everday one person on that bus calls you an idiot can you stop them from riding he bus?


You could probably get a Harassment Restraining Order, for more info you can look at this, but to bring out the important bits:

"A person who is a victim of harassment may seek a restraining order from the court.
The restraining order prohibits harassment.

Harassment includes:
1. Repeated, intrusive, or unwanted acts, words, or gestures that are intended to adversely affect your safety, security, or privacy, regardless of the relationship between you and the alleged harasser;
3. A pattern of attending public events after being notified that one's presence is harassing to another."

I guess that sums it up...
Now I see a lot of people who are angry with Max's ban, mostly from the Farmers Guild, which is good, it's always good to support people in a community you believe in. However, bashing others and saying other people should also be banned does not belong here. If you have complaints about other people, then open another thread.

Aradhus wrote:What they don't have is a group of players who HATE them, and do everything they can to get others to hate them, and whine incessantly for them to be banned.


Well couldn't have Max avoided them to hate him if he had just left them alone? And wouldn't people not fall to their words if Max had proved them to be wrong with solid, well thought and mature arguments?

Twill wrote:Max has been banned, and we will be launching some new farming rules in the next few days


Looking into the evidence, and max's behaviour in the games mentioned, I applaud this decision, particularly if he had
Bones2484 wrote: a history of warnings and previous bans
I also hope the new farming rules come soon.

Now, personally I didn't know max other than from the posts he's made on Suggestions forum, but he does seem like a provocative guy who tries to attract attention towards himself by stirring up trouble, which can easily disrupt the community of the site. And again, personally, I think anyone who enjoys getting points from people with potentially lower skills than them, rather than enjoying the game for the challenge it presents, are missing the whole point of the game itself and are abusing an inefficient system (inefficient because while score should reflect a player's skill at the game it only reflects the player's skill to gather and hold on to those points, beating the whole purpose of them even existing).

People are free to enjoy themselves in whatever way they like the most as long as it doesn't interfere with other people's right to enjoy themselves as well, and abuse in any form or shape should always be prevented so I'm looking forward to the anti-farming rules that will come into play.

I hope this is a step forward towards a community that can learn to respect each other, and the guidelines made for peaceful coexistence and overall enjoyment of the game.
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Re: the last straw. maxatstuy. [banned]

Postby lancehoch on Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:18 am

Aradhus and jarrett155: There have been many incidents in the past with max in both chat and the forums. He has also been busted on more than one occasion for having multiple accounts. The latest incident was following specific users into games and disrupting their games. I warned him to stop this behavior, but within 24 hours of the warning he was back at it.
If you are intentionally or continually making this community less enjoyable for others, you're going to be removed from it. It's that simple
This was a fairly simple request, yet max could not follow it. As he had been warned many times before and did not seem to understand that the warnings and vacations he had received meant something, he was removed from the site. Whether there were a group of people who liked this user or disliked this user did not come into play with the ban, it was simply a matter of this user is overall a huge detriment to the website and thus he is gone.
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Re: the last straw. maxatstuy. [banned]

Postby demonfork on Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:00 am

lancehoch wrote:Aradhus and jarrett155: There have been many incidents in the past with max in both chat and the forums. He has also been busted on more than one occasion for having multiple accounts. The latest incident was following specific users into games and disrupting their games. I warned him to stop this behavior, but within 24 hours of the warning he was back at it.
If you are intentionally or continually making this community less enjoyable for others, you're going to be removed from it. It's that simple
This was a fairly simple request, yet max could not follow it. As he had been warned many times before and did not seem to understand that the warnings and vacations he had received meant something, he was removed from the site. Whether there were a group of people who liked this user or disliked this user did not come into play with the ban, it was simply a matter of this user is overall a huge detriment to the website and thus he is gone.


When was max ever busted for being a multi? I don't believe that his prior busts ever had anything to do with multiple accounts.
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Re: the last straw. maxatstuy. [banned]

Postby bridge2far on Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:22 am

Alright all frickin ready..

fck sake everyone.

If you want to know why max is banned you should take a look at my original post.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=73507
Everything is true, not much has been left out.

So please, stop asking questions... find out for yourself by reading through my entire post, and yes... that means reading every single game chat that i provided.
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Re: the last straw. maxatstuy. [banned]

Postby hulmey on Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:20 pm

bridge2far wrote:Alright all frickin ready..

fck sake everyone.

If you want to know why max is banned you should take a look at my original post.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=73507
Everything is true, not much has been left out.

So please, stop asking questions... find out for yourself by reading through my entire post, and yes... that means reading every single game chat that i provided.

did you report DAT WAT SHE SAID as well. I mean i only pulled up 2 games and none of them are bannable offences. 2nd game pulled up 3415336....deserves a ban for DAT.
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Re: the last straw. maxatstuy. [banned]

Postby Bruceswar on Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:58 pm

demonfork wrote:
lancehoch wrote:Aradhus and jarrett155: There have been many incidents in the past with max in both chat and the forums. He has also been busted on more than one occasion for having multiple accounts. The latest incident was following specific users into games and disrupting their games. I warned him to stop this behavior, but within 24 hours of the warning he was back at it.
If you are intentionally or continually making this community less enjoyable for others, you're going to be removed from it. It's that simple
This was a fairly simple request, yet max could not follow it. As he had been warned many times before and did not seem to understand that the warnings and vacations he had received meant something, he was removed from the site. Whether there were a group of people who liked this user or disliked this user did not come into play with the ban, it was simply a matter of this user is overall a huge detriment to the website and thus he is gone.


When was max ever busted for being a multi? I don't believe that his prior busts ever had anything to do with multiple accounts.



max was busted for a multi with maxs account. There is a thread some place about it. He was "teaching his parents" on that account, but from the chat you can clearly see it was him.
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Re: the last straw. maxatstuy. [banned]

Postby Stephan Wayne on Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:04 pm

sorry to see you go max but you have to have knowen it was coming
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Re: the last straw. maxatstuy. [banned]

Postby gundiesalvo on Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:04 pm

hulmey wrote:did you report DAT WAT SHE SAID as well. I mean i only pulled up 2 games and none of them are bannable offences. 2nd game pulled up 3415336....deserves a ban for DAT.


Dude, if you're so angry make another report on that yourself and stop derailing this thread.... This isn't about who should be banned for trash talking in game chat, this is about Maxatstuy, if you're gonna keep talking at least stay on topic.
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Re: Why did max get busted?

Postby Jeff Hardy on Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:20 pm

Aradhus wrote:telling him that he only won points by farming

didnt he?

hulmey wrote:did you report DAT WAT SHE SAID as well.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/posting.php?mode=post&f=5
there ya go mate, do it yourself ;)
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Re: the last straw. maxatstuy. [banned]

Postby lancehoch on Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:14 pm

Bruceswar wrote:max was busted for a multi with maxs account. There is a thread some place about it. He was "teaching his parents" on that account, but from the chat you can clearly see it was him.

I was wrong, he was later cleared for this. He got himself into trouble though for having access to a large number of accounts (he knew the current password and had logged into more than 10 different accounts). Sorry for he mistake.
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Re: the last straw. maxatstuy. [banned]

Postby TheBro on Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:14 pm

As annoying as he may have been, a perm ban seems harsh.... W.e :?
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