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Postby Qwert on Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:23 am

Here is all nessesary to have if you want to check XML code and coordinates.
Map Checker
http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php
xml
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new 1feb
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new 15jan
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vote for Sea color opacity
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new 7
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Peloponnesian War 431BC-Map Description

1.Countries-no countries

2.Number of Territory-87
start with 78 neutrals.

3.Starting positions-8(get every turn +2 autodeploy to each starting territory)
-Illyrians
-Dardanians
-Pontus
-Lemnians
-Skyros
-Icaria
-Persians
-Romans

4.Bonuses
-Hold Territory with Hoplites give +1
:Macedonians
:Molossians
:Thessalians
:Arcadians
:Acarnanians
:Lacedaemonians
:Euboeans
:Athenians
:Cretans
:Thracian Bessi
:Byzantines
:Mysians
:Carians

5.Objectives
Capture All the Shield to win the war
-Need to take and hold 8 territories who have shield,to win a games.
:Corinthians
:Lacedaemonians
:Athenians
:Boeotians
:Macedonians
:Troadians
:Erythraeans
:Lydians

6.full list of territories
List of territories

1.Illyrians(starting position +2 autodeploy every turn)
2.Dardanians(starting position +2 autodeploy every turn)
3.Pontus(starting position +2 autodeploy every turn)
4.Romans(starting position +2 autodeploy every turn)
5.Lemnians(starting position +2 autodeploy every turn)
6.Icaria(starting position +2 autodeploy every turn)
7.Persians(starting position +2 autodeploy every turn)
8.Skyros(starting position +2 autodeploy every turn)
----neutral territories all start with 3 neutral army----
9.Macedonians(Hoplite bonus +1)Shield
10.Lacedaemonians(Hoplite bonus +1)Shield
11.Athenians(Hoplite bonus +1)Shield
12.Troadians(Hoplite bonus +1)Shield
13.Boeotians-Shield
14.Corinthians-Shield(marked on map in map inset with Number 1)
15.Erythraeans-Shield
16.Lydians-Shield
17.Molossians(Hoplite bonus +1)
18.Thessalians(Hoplite bonus +1)
19.Cephalenians(Hoplite bonus +1)
20.Arcadians(Hoplite bonus +1)
21.Euboeans(Hoplite bonus +1)
22.Cretans(Hoplite bonus +1)
23.Ephesians(Hoplite bonus +1)
24.Thracian Bessi(Hoplites bonus +1)
25.Byzantines(Hoplites bonus +1)
26.Lyncestians
27.Paeonians
28.Orestians
29.Eordaeans
30.Elimiotes
31.Paraueans
32.Tumphaeans
33.Corcyraeans
34.Chaonians
35.Thesprotians
36.Ambraciotes
37.Leucadians
38.Zacynthians
39.Acarnanians
40.Dolopes
41.Aetolians
42.Magnetes
43.Peparethos
44.Phthiotians
45.Malians
46.Argives
47.Achaeans
48.Eleans
49.Mesenians
50.Dorian Cycladians
51.Mygdonians
52.Chalcidians
53.Bisaltians
54.Agrianes
55.Amphilocians
56.Thasians
57.Chalcedonians
58.Abderites
59.Aeolians
60.Cyzicenes
61.Bithynians
62.Mysians
63.Pergamenes
64.Lesbians
65.Imbrians
66.Phocaea
67.Chians
68.Samians
69.Phrygians
70.Carians
71.Lycians
72.Milesians
73.Halicarnassians
74.Cnidians
75.Sporadians
76.Rhodians
77.Carpathos
78.Thracian Serdi
79.Thracian Maedi
80.Thracian Odrysi
81.Thracian Asti
82.Mesembrians
83.Megarians(marked with number 2,and in map inset)
84.Phocians(marked with number 3)
85.Ozolian Locrians(marked with number 4)
86.Athamanes(marked with number 5)
87.Perrhaebians(marked with number 6)

2jan
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get ready for new update 10 dec
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ahoy,ahoy update
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another update
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new fresh advance update 1 dec
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almost all things for these subforum is reached 24 now
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much serious update 22 nov
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first serious update 18 nov
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these is experimental draft,still i searching for several city states
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I know that all ready exist Ancient Grecce map, but its quit incomplete, and i think that Peloponesian war who include Delian League(led by Athens-association of aproximatly 150 city states) against Peloponesian League(led by Sparta,still not explore how many city state whas in these league). Well more or les all Ancien City state is included in Peloponesian war.
What you think of these, ofcourse if you think that its enough one map of ancient Grecce,then mod can lock these topic,i just need some oppinions abouth these idea.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC

Postby The Neon Peon on Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:24 am

If you make a map, it's got to be good. I can't wait.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC

Postby MrBenn on Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:18 pm

Moved into ideas ;-)
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC

Postby Qwert on Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:39 pm

its look that nobody can say nothing abouth these idea :|
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC

Postby Incandenza on Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:48 pm

Hey, if you want to make a Peloponnesian war map, knock yourself out. I think you've gotten to the point where you can start up a map and people will go along with it... hell, we've got a million europe maps, and you've gotten a lot of favorable feedback on 1914 europe, so there ya go.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC

Postby Qwert on Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:53 pm

by Incandenza on Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:48 pm

Hey, if you want to make a Peloponnesian war map, knock yourself out. I think you've gotten to the point where you can start up a map and people will go along with it... hell, we've got a million europe maps, and you've gotten a lot of favorable feedback on 1914 europe, so there ya go.

These is map of Ancien Grecce map, and we all ready have Ancient Grecce map,i just research Little and find that these two League in Pelloponnesian War have almost 200 city states,but will be very dificulty to put all City state in present Size. These map need very long historical research,and some state will must go out map. The Main question is_Do we need another Ancient Grecce map.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC

Postby Qwert on Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:12 pm

Any sugestion about these idea? Do we need another Ancient Greece map,with 100 city states?
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:22 pm

I would love to see a map done of all of the greek city-states. Unfortunately I don't think you could possibly fit ALL of them, due to size restrictions, but I hope you will still be able to make a decent sized map out of this.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC

Postby Qwert on Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:42 pm

by Mr. Squirrel on Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:22 pm

I would love to see a map done of all of the greek city-states. Unfortunately I don't think you could possibly fit ALL of them, due to size restrictions, but I hope you will still be able to make a decent sized map out of this.

im all ready do research,and there is to much City states(over 200) who participiate in these war,that half of these must go out of map,ofcourse i still not find all names,and for now i find these on these list in first post. Ofcourse mine question is do we need another Ancient Greece map? Mine attempt is to try to create much close to feel that you have map with Many City states,who whas small kingdom.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC

Postby el-presidente on Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:41 pm

I like the idea. The map we have now isn't realy based on the actual structure of greek city states, it is just devided up into reagions that seemend to work well. I think we deffinently need a new greece map
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC

Postby Incandenza on Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:48 pm

qwert wrote:Ofcourse mine question is do we need another Ancient Greece map?


If your map is going to be better than the existing Ancient Greece map, then you should do it.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC

Postby gho on Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:16 pm

Maybe wait for the current Ancient Greece revamp to be complete?
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC

Postby Qwert on Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:07 am

by gho on Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:16 am

Maybe wait for the current Ancient Greece revamp to be complete?

Ancient Greece have rewamp? Still nothing will change in gameplay structure,and will be same regions,right? I hope that these will include more City states,maybe 80-90 city states.
If these rewamp only include Graphic,then i think that these rewamp is pointles.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC

Postby Qwert on Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:53 am

im still work on research,to know where is exactly sentlement of each tribes. These is not easy job.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC-experimental draft page 1

Postby Ntetos on Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:24 am

I think you should add South Italy and Sicily.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC-experimental draft page 1

Postby Qwert on Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:10 am

by Ntetos on Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:24 pm

I think you should add South Italy and Sicily.

I know these,but size restriction its not alove these.Its imposible to add all territory where Greek have hes colony.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC-experimental draft page 1

Postby Meditron on Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:03 pm

I think this would make a great map, and based on the preliminary image you've got up it looks like it'd be a good one to play one. SO in answer to your general question, yes I think another Ancient Greek map would be just fine especially with better game play mechanics.

Also you could probably combine some of the lesser city states in the war to consolidate the massive amount that were involved in the conflict.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC-experimental draft page 1

Postby Qwert on Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:14 pm

by Meditron on Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:03 am

I think this would make a great map, and based on the preliminary image you've got up it looks like it'd be a good one to play one. SO in answer to your general question, yes I think another Ancient Greek map would be just fine especially with better game play mechanics.

Also you could probably combine some of the lesser city states in the war to consolidate the massive amount that were involved in the conflict.

Well i have some idea,that these map will be similar to Imperium Romanum, but with soma changes-first that these map will have Gameplay Objective,like "hold Sparta,Athens,Thebes,Corinth,Argos (maybe some more Famous Cities) to win a game".
Second- i thinking to create Starting positions,similar to Das Scloss,where you start and nobody can kill you.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC-experimental draft page 1

Postby Qwert on Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:36 pm

im preparing some new update(colour update)
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC-experimental draft page 1

Postby MrBenn on Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:59 am

It looks like you're going ahead with this... and as you have a rough draft, I'll move you into the drafting room...

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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC-experimental draft page 1

Postby Balsiefen on Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:27 pm

I think to avoid over-similarity to the current greece map, you should have some kind of gameplay quirk. However, I'm afraid I'm short of ideas on what.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC-experimental draft page 1

Postby Qwert on Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:32 pm

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Well i have some idea,that these map will be similar to Imperium Romanum, but with soma changes-first that these map will have Gameplay Objective,like "hold Sparta,Athens,Thebes,Corinth,Argos (maybe some more Famous Cities) to win a game".
Second- i thinking to create Starting positions,similar to Das Scloss,where you start and nobody can kill you.


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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC-experimental draft page 1

Postby whitestazn88 on Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:45 pm

could be good. i think the gameplay will be much different, especially if the theme is war... so go for it!
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC-experimental draft page 1

Postby Qwert on Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:59 pm

ok here we go new update, so far i have 81 territory,and maybe i will add 3-4 more,but these is max for these ,map.
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Re: Peloponesian wars 431 BC-FRESH UPDATE page 1-2

Postby Balsiefen on Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:10 pm

V Nice update but where are you going to put the army no's for corinthians and megarians?

And the gameplay ideas sound good, it'll be interesting to see them
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