Celtic 7 Nations v4.0 [Quenched]!

[MrBenn]

Apologies for the delay....

[MrBenn]

In other news, which are the latest images? There have been a couple of iterations posted to the thread since the XML-check was posted in the check-thread.. Once I know what's what and made sure it's all tickety-boo, then there might be another stamp on it's way

[Victor Sullivan]

Apologies for the delay....

Aweshome!! Beta's not far from here!

[The Bison King]

Oh Awesome! I'm not at my computer tonight so I can't post the final files, so I'll do it tomorrow morning.

[The Bison King]

Files for Beta:

Large map

Small map

XML: http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/11/9/ ... ns.1.7.xml

[natty dread]

This should obviously say "can I has XML stamp"

[mattattam]

Way to go Bison and Ender!

[MrBenn]

Beta - Quenching

---The Final Forge period has concluded for the Celtic Nations Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Beta Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for BETA Play. After an extended period of time in BETA and once all quirks and issues have been resolved, the map will be put into Full Play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!

While the map is in BETA Play, there are a couple of administrative tasks that are required of the mapmaker(s) in addition to the initial gameplay testing:

1. Please ensure that the first post of the thread contains all the necessary information to help future visitors to the development thread; it's particularly important to ensure the most recent images are there, along with any helpful guides (such as gameplay quirks/nuances or the location/size of any starting neutrals etc.)
2. Please update the Map Information Portal with details of your map
3. Finally, it is the responsibility of the mapmaker(s) to ensure that they respond to further feedback in a timely and constructive manner.

--MrBenn

[The Bison King]

It's a Halloween Miracle!!!!

[ender516]

MrBenn is the messenger of the Great Pumpkin, and our map is the most sincere.

[Victor Sullivan]

OH SHNAP! Unfortunately it's not live yet...

[ender516]

Perhaps we will get lucky and lackattack will upload the files while he is around dealing with the Halloween special event.

[Victor Sullivan]

Perhaps we will get lucky and lackattack will upload the files while he is around dealing with the Halloween special event.

Yeah, how 'bout we agree to send each other invites as soon as it goes live?

[The Bison King]

Perhaps we will get lucky and lackattack will upload the files while he is around dealing with the Halloween special event.

Yeah, how 'bout we agree to send each other invites as soon as it goes live?

Definitely if anyone wants in just say so on this thread and I'll invite you to a game.

[The Bison King]

And we are Live!

[MrBenn]

And we are Live!

Indeedy.

Well done

[william.paul]

Forgive me if this has been brought up in the previous 31 pages, but I was a little confused about the Celtic Sea Territory.

Some maps that have a 'loose 1 per turn territory' specify that it either goes down to 1 or will revert to neutral 1 id you only have 1 army there. After playing it, I thought that adding in that it it only reduces your forces to 1 would clarify things.

[Sniper08]

Finally we can play this map

[Victor Sullivan]

I agree with the blue M&M. Psyched to play this map, TBK!

[ender516]

Forgive me if this has been brought up in the previous 31 pages, but I was a little confused about the Celtic Sea Territory.

Some maps that have a 'loose 1 per turn territory' specify that it either goes down to 1 or will revert to neutral 1 id you only have 1 army there. After playing it, I thought that adding in that it it only reduces your forces to 1 would clarify things.

Regions that lose 1 troop per turn (or any specific number of troops per turn) stop when you have only one troop left. They do not revert to neutral. Regions which revert to neutral at the start of the turn of the player holding them ("killer neutrals") do exactly that: no matter how many troops you leave on them, they revert to their starting neutral value when you start your turn. They do not revert to the starting neutral value unless a player holds them: if someone weakens them without taking them, they stay weak.

The Celtic Sea region starts as a neutral with one troop, and loses one troop per turn when held by any player.

[Commander62890]

Hello there!

Does it occur to you that the Kernow bonus is a little too good, being 2 territories for +2 and being protected by neutrals?
In two teams games, my opponents dropped both territories in Kernow, and now they will surely take and hold it.

There are 2 neutrals to go through to get to Kernow:
1) Stonehenge, of course, is worthless as a bonus in a team game; And as a neutral 3, it is brutal to go through in order to break Kernow
2) Ynysek Syllan is a bit better, being a neutral 2.

Either way, the team that does not take Kernow is pretty much fucked

Changing it to +1 would be okay, but it will still be unbalanced. The only way to balance it is to allow Kernow to be attacked without having to go through neutrals. Perhaps change Ynysek Syllan to a regular territory?

By the way, I imagine this issue will be the same with 1v1s, unless a territory in Kernow is dropped neutral

[The Bison King]

Hello there!

Does it occur to you that the Kernow bonus is a little too good, being 2 territories for +2 and being protected by neutrals?
In two teams games, my opponents dropped both territories in Kernow, and now they will surely take and hold it.

There are 2 neutrals to go through to get to Kernow:
1) Stonehenge, of course, is worthless as a bonus in a team game; And as a neutral 3, it is brutal to go through in order to break Kernow
2) Ynysek Syllan is a bit better, being a neutral 2.

Either way, the team that does not take Kernow is pretty much fucked

Changing it to +1 would be okay, but it will still be unbalanced. The only way to balance it is to allow Kernow to be attacked without having to go through neutrals. Perhaps change Ynysek Syllan to a regular territory?

By the way, I imagine this issue will be the same with 1v1s, unless a territory in Kernow is dropped neutral

I want to keep Kernow +2, because I think +1 is too small for it being in the crossroads of the map. I need to leave at least 1 neutral in the bonus to keep people from dropping it right off the bat. Ynsyek Syllen seems like an obvious choice because even if someone doesn't go for the bonus it will soon be broken by people traveling from on end of the map to another. Maybe Stonehenge could be dropped to only having 2 neutrals but I don't think that will make much of a difference and I think that would make it too easy to score that +1 auto deploy.

[CamelToe]

this map has copyright infringement. that celtic tree symbol is original artwork by Jen Delyth titled 'tree of life' and is not part of the public domain, despite the fact that people all over the net are using it illegally without permission.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jen_Delyth
http://www.kelticdesigns.com/Pages/CelticTreeofLifebyJenDelyth.html

[The Bison King]

Ruh-Roh! Hmm I suppose I can ask permission. Looking on the site it has a section for non-commercial use. She might ok it, I'm not really sure. Worst case scenario I just change it to something else. What do you think?

[Commander62890]

I want to keep Kernow +2, because I think +1 is too small for it being in the crossroads of the map. I need to leave at least 1 neutral in the bonus to keep people from dropping it right off the bat. Ynsyek Syllen seems like an obvious choice because even if someone doesn't go for the bonus it will soon be broken by people traveling from on end of the map to another. Maybe Stonehenge could be dropped to only having 2 neutrals but I don't think that will make much of a difference and I think that would make it too easy to score that +1 auto deploy.

Sorry, I didnt realize Ynsysek Syllen was part of Kernow! That makes it much more balanced.
I'll let you know if I see anything else; sorry about the mix-up.